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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 17:43:47 GMT -5
serbia is buying insurance for their hand at blackjack ...in case s**t hits the fan Marko ...so these moves of mistakes you see serbia doing you classify as powerful Serbia is in a great position right now and it makes you sick. let it burrrnnnn rex LET-IT-BURN... and who is marko? i think your online internet wars is screwing with your heard. How would they call this internet-war-sydnrom.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 17:13:28 GMT -5
but then again ....they made their choice but still behind with nose in euro Ass all over the place fricken losers Vučić, foreign officials “discuss ways to improve EU offer” Source: Tanjug BELGRADE -- First Deputy PM Aleksandar Vučić has been in a constant contact with high officials of the U.S., Germany, Great Britain and France in the past several days.
Aleksandar Vučić (Beta, file)
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This is according to Belgrade-based daily Danas. The daily also writes that the first deputy PM is in contact with representatives of other key countries in the international community in order for the Belgrade-Priština agreement to be harmonized and signed as soon as possible.
Vučić is in contact with U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Philip Gordon and Christoph Heusgen, foreign policy advisor of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, discussing ways to improve the EU proposal for the agreement with Priština, which the Serbian government refused to sign on Monday, the daily reads. Serbia is keeping their doors open only a real good statesman is capable of doing that. Serbia is more powerful than albania so really you have nothing to say.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 17:11:25 GMT -5
Stop embarrassing yourself, you're butthurt I know you don't need to keep yelling about it.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 13:48:52 GMT -5
stop forging my identity you obsessed old man. that's wrong on many levels.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 12:30:20 GMT -5
Panelists: ICTY has been biased NEW YORK - The Hague Tribunal has not fulfilled the purpose of its existence, it has conducted trials in a biased fashion and failed to contribute to regional reconciliation, said participants in two panel discussions on “Justice” and “Reconciliation”, held as part of the thematic debate on the role of international criminal justice in reconciliation at the United Nations headquarters Wednesday. Matthew Parish, former chief legal adviser to the International Supervisor of Brcko District, Bosnia-Herzegovina, who is now a partner in an international law firm, criticized The Hague tribunal while pointing to certain facts about convictions in the U.S. and the U.K. and comparing them to judgments rendered by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).He said that 81 percent of people who pleaded not guilty before the ICTY ended being convicted.
According to Parish, the percentage is much lower in the Western countries' judicial systems. He said that in the U.K., only half of those pleading not guilty get convicted, while in the U.S., the percentage of such rulings is 60 percent. He shared a personal story from the 1990s Bosnian war, when his wife and her family were living in a village in central Bosnia. There, her mother, along with others, was assassinated by militia, and although everyone knew who those militia members were, they never were tried or punished.“This is an all too familiar pattern” in the many civil wars that plagues the world today, said Parish, who was the moderator of a panel that focused on the topic 'Justice'. He and several other panelists made their comments about the trial of Serbian Radical Party (SRS) leader Vojislav Seselj, asking why the process has been ongoing for as many as 10 years.
Whatever one may think of the man, he needs to be given a fair and efficient trial, said Parish. The gathering was also addressed by former UNPROFOR commander in Bosnia, retired Canadian general Lewis MacKenzie, who said it is unfair to be accusing only the Serbian side for the crimes committed in the former Yugoslavia wars.
I was eventually accused of being a rapist, and my successor, British General Michael Rose, faced a similar fate, said MacKenzie. MacKenzie was accused of war crimes, including the rape of Muslim women in the former Yugoslavia. While it was proven that those accusations were “over the top” and ludicrous - he was in Canada during the time those crimes were allegedly committed - the story went viral, and is “still out there” today, according to a release issued by the UN General Assembly.
The retired Canadian general pointed to the "involuntary expulsion” phrase used by former U.S. mediator in the former Yugoslavia, Richard Holbrooke.He used these words instead of saying ethnic cleansing when he spoke about Serbs leaving a territory, said McKenzie. He pointed out that in 1995, Croatian forces attacked Canadian peacekeepers with whom a number of Serbs had taken refuge, despite the fact that the civilians were protected by international conventions.This lack of justice is certainly counterproductive to reconciliation, said the Canadian general. Commenting on the sentences imposed by the Hague Tribunal, Savo Strbac, director of Serbia's Veritas Documentation Center, said that 80 percent of all ICTY verdicts were rendered against the Serbs and five of the persons were sentenced to life-time imprisonment. "The entire military and police establishment of Serbia, Republika Srpska, (the former) Republic of Serbian Krajina, got indicted and and most of them were convicted. Several people were convicted for crimes against Serbs in Bosnia while nobody has been found to be responsible for such crimes in Croatia and Kosovo," said Strbac. According to Strbac, although it has not been denied that crimes were committed during the 1995 Operation Storm, carried out by the Croatian military and police forces, Croat generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markac, who The Hague tribunal acquitted in November, were not convicted by any alternative mechanisms for accountability. “I accepted to cooperate with the ICTY prosecution believing that a valid evaluation can only be given after it is seen what the attitudes towards Serbian victims will be like. I have cooperated with them (the ICTY) since November 1994. But after all the judgments, the only thing I can now do is admit, with much bitterness, that my compatriots were right when they said that the tribunal would engage in a selective justice, which would not be based on any true principles of justice at all,” concluded Strbac. John Laughland, Director of the Studies at the Institute of Democracy and Cooperation in Paris, said that NATO should also be prosecuted for crimes on the territory of the former Yugoslavia.These crimes are not on trial, and neither is the organ trafficking in Kosovo, as these things are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to crimes committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), which, if prosecuted, would lead to the friendships of Western leaders, such as Madeleine Albright and Tony Blair, with KLA leaders, said Laughland. www.tanjug.rs/news/83603/panelists---icty-has-been-biased.htm
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 12:12:30 GMT -5
hey rex, valmire... Albania is going to become the EU's trash bin, it's doesn't get worse than that. I mean... I could've come up with a million jokes pertainting to Albania being a waste bucket... but this being a real-deal ... I have to admit I feel warm and fuzzy inside
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 12:09:03 GMT -5
this whole jeri-niko show is/was a stupid fiasco More have recognized kosova !!
LMAOOO you sad pup stop taking B92 commentators material. I am so happy how this is pissing off every albie out there
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 12:07:21 GMT -5
Valmire, your name is Slavic - have you know shame?
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 12:05:27 GMT -5
Now that is the alb nightmare; Serbian, Macedonian and Greek military alliance. As long as we're all on the same page Balkan will be stable, in order and the invaders will be tamed or put out. OMG, This is our dream man... Just try to make an allieance like that and we will make ours, and you know very well what will happen than You would turn to dust and that would be just the Serbs handling you - and as far as "we know what will happen".. yea we do, you'll be crying buckets on the tele begging for the USA to save you.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 12:01:26 GMT -5
More than half of the UN countries boycotted this debate, No f**king normal country can buy the bulls**t of serbs, till yesturday they were playing the big boss in yugoslavia and killing innocent and UNARMED people and now they seek justice,stupid nation! The only countries of significance that didn't show up were the USA. Canada and Jordan. Countries like Tuvalu, Palau, Malawi and Kirbati have no business in any UN debate. The worlds' major players all participated even spoke, except USA and Canada. Enough with your bedtime stories save it for your children.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 11:43:07 GMT -5
NEW YORK -- A big taboo was broken at the UN General Assembly on Wednesday - the one about the issue of inviolability of international criminal justice, Vuk Jeremić says.The UNGA president Tanjug that international criminal justice has so far been "a sacred cow which no one dared to criticize." The debate on international criminal tribunals was held at the UNGA on Wednesday. "What has been said today is a kind of criticism, not only of the court for the former Yugoslavia, but also of the court in Rwanda and other criminal tribunals. For the first time we have critical aspects of the work of ad hoc criminal tribunals at the General Assembly, especially concerning the Hague Tribunal," he added.Jeremić stated that the public debate had brought together a record number of participants - 49 speakers representing more than 80 countries. this is not a circus rex bite your tonge "It proves that Serbia is not the only country in the world that criticizes the work of this court. Highly respected legal experts and other public figures presented their views which are largely consistent with the ones in Serbia. Although we thought that we are alone in this, it turns out this is not the case," he noted. www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=11&nav_id=85645It's coming forward that this is one of the most significant debates in the history of the UN.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 11:37:10 GMT -5
Rex, here's to your circus comment and tell your friends on B92 better yet, send them here f**k those moderators. Serbian president meets with UN secretary general The debate was opened by UNGA President Vuk Jeremić and the highest number of member states in the history of UN public debates participated in it. www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=11&nav_id=85640This debate is in fact seen as historic in the UN sphere. ps... and rexy, let it burrrnnn
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 11:30:08 GMT -5
watch for my comments on b92 it was a simple serbian circus show and nothing more ......actually embarrassing for serbia and its people You didn't watch his speech and probably don't understand most of the legal language being used, so really no one cares for your opinion. The Hague is a political institution not judicial - anyone with a brain who seeks further knowledge knows this - again someone with a brain, so your opinion is irrelevant.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 10:57:02 GMT -5
btw ....whats the % of Albanians in the Mac Army ? and what was that defense ministers name again ...?? don't know about the defense minister, but the commander-in-chief's name is Georgi Ivanov.... Don't worry about the minister. This cooperation is really all that is needed. Braca sa bracom.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 10:49:09 GMT -5
Rex, your posts in this thread are a clear cry for help. Does it make you feel good when you use large fonts when talking nonsense lol?
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 10:18:45 GMT -5
Besides politics Medvedev and Dacic are friends. Same with Nikolic and Putin. Albanians have no friends - just a leash that guides them where to go.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 10:15:34 GMT -5
no interruption of speech ....AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHH wtf
She's an insignificant worm trying for her moment of attention. I am glad not even a second of his time was wasted on that vermin.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 11, 2013 10:13:47 GMT -5
Your obviously butthurt by all this, you don't like the fact that Serbia's Government is effective. I mean lets face it... Tadic wouldn't have the balls for this. NIKOLIC JE PRAVI SRBIN. You got nothing on us, all your lies are old and no one believes them anymore, take YOUR epics of Racak and Srebrenica and shove them up your ass - no one wants to hear it. oh and rex chap... besides all the talk of genocide and rape I have something else that'll make you cum ... www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=11&nav_id=85644
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 10, 2013 17:37:32 GMT -5
Subasic removed from debate in UN seat NEW YORK - President of the Mothers of Srebrenica Association Munira Subasic was removed from the UN hall where the public debate on the work of international criminal tribunals is being held because she displayed the banner that reads 'Republika Srpska, genocide' during the speech of Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic.
She attended the meeting as an observer at the invitation of UN General Assembly President Vuk Jeremic, without the right of addressing the participants. As Nikolic was delivering his speech, Subasic displayed a T-shirt with 'Srebrenica' writing on it, and attempted to raise a banner that reads 'Republika Srpska, genocide', but UN security guards approached her and removed her from the hall and the UN building. The Serbian president did not interrupt his speech during the incident.www.tanjug.rs/news/83493/subasic-removed-from-debate-in-un-seat.htm
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 10, 2013 17:31:40 GMT -5
Nikolic: ICTY only hinders regional reconciliation UNITED NATIONS - Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic sharply criticized the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) at a United Nations debate Wednesday, expressing the view that the tribunal has done nothing to help but has rather only hindered the process of reconciliation in the former Yugoslavia. “Serbia and I are ready not to wait for 70 more years to reconcile with the neighbors that we used to live with together in the same state or (to reconcile) with those, I mean to say Kosovo-Metohija, with whom we live in the same country today. I am deeply convinced that the Hague Tribunal has only done harm to this process and that it has probably caused an unnecessary delay that will be carried over to the next generation. The process has certainly and to a large extent been slowed down and made more difficult,” said the Serbian president. According to Nikolic, the tribunal is making one nation feel as being a victim of great injustice, while making another nation enjoy a feeling of great triumph. “From the standpoint of science and ethics, The Hague processes can be put on a par with the processes led by the Inquisition and with the Paris and Moscow Trials. The proceedings against Serbs are motivated by desires to punish and retaliate; and retaliation, particularly in contemporary law, can never be justified as righteous. The Hague procedures are characterized by a total lack of justice and fairness,” said the Serbian president. Speaking the first among a total of 50 member countries' representatives who have announced their participation in the debate, Nikolic said that all the penalties that have been voiced against Serbs at the ICTY put together amount to about 1,150 years, while the sentences against representatives of other nations for crimes against Serbs total 55 years. The president recalled that Croat generals Mladen Markac and Ante Gotovina were released despite the fact that Croatian troops expelled more than 300,000 Serbs from areas that have been inhabited by their ancestors for centuries.Also, more than 2,000 victims in Bratunac, Kravica and surrounding areas in eastern Bosnia, places of activity of the Bosniak forces under the command of Naser Oric, are still waiting to see at least some of the perpetrators receiving punishments, he added. Serbs from Kosovo-Metohija have been victims to organized kidnappings and removal of organs from their bodies, which were later sold on the black market. History did not see such crimes before. Instead of processing the crimes, The Hague tribunal has destroyed the evidence, said Nikolic.
“Hundreds of thousands of exiled, and thousands of killed and kidnapped persons in Kosovo were not enough for The Hague tribunal to decide to punish the commanders and members of the so-called (Kosovo) Liberation Army; and not only that, since during the trial (of Ramus) Haradinaj, the tribunal allowed the accused to be involved in politics, which is an unprecedented move. What it actually allowed him to do is to eliminate and intimidate witnesses,” Nikolic added. Nikolic believes that the verdicts reached by the tribunal are making the Serbian people feel frustrated and depressed while creating the feelings of exaltation and triumph among the Croats and Bosniaks. “It seems that for the greatest part , The Hague trials will not be able to lead to a real and complete truth and therefore, any reconciliation will be an imposed and insincere one. You cannot be fair to some and unfair to others. Also, how to explain away the fact that almost nobody, except in one case in Bosnia and in one case in Kosovo, has been convicted of crimes against Serbs,” said Nikolic. Speaking at the thematic debate, entitled 'Role of international criminal justice in reconciliation', which begun at the UN headquarters on the East River on Wednesday, and is being boycotted by the United states and ICTY representatives, Nikolic commented on the unwillingness of the tribunal's representatives to attend, observing that “if they did not respect the most ancient legal rule, 'Audiatur et altera pars' (hear the other side too), how can we expect even a minimum of law and justice of them?”“The Hague tribunal has failed to meet that which they have proclaimed as their main goal - regional reconciliation; therefore, it (the ICTY) cannot be the future of international justice, but only its past and an ugly one at that. The only benefit derived from the existence of the Hague tribunal is that it has now become quite clear that the method of its creation and its entire work has shown that things should never be done in that way again,” he said. As an expression of support for the work of the International Court of Justice, as the sole instance to enforce international justice, and because of Serbia's desire to contribute to the proclaimed goals of the Hague tribunal, Nikolic described in detail what Serbia has done in its cooperation with the ICTY so far. Serbia has extradited 46 defendants, including two former presidents, government members, three chiefs of staff of its army and several police and army generals, including the director of intelligence service which, Nikolic says, has never been done by any other country. Also, he added, Serbia has “almost given up on its sovereignty,” relieving more than 750 witnesses from the obligation to safeguard state secrets. “Our cooperation with the Hague tribunal was our sincere desire to contribute to reconciliation in the former Yugoslavia, rather than a result of any kind of pressure. For that reason, and often threatening its national interests, Serbia has met almost all requests for assistance by the The Hague prosecutor or defendants and not a single request to review its archives has been denied.” At the same time, he said, “in the activities of The Hague tribunal, Serbs in general have rarely been noted as victims ... save only in a few instances: Haradin Bala was convicted for crimes against Serbs in Kosovo and received a sentence of 13 years in prison; Zdravko Mucic got 9 years, Hazim Delic 18 years and Esad Landzo 15 years in prison.” “These data may suggest a following conclusion: the perpetrators of war crimes on the territory of the former Yugoslavia are almost exclusively Serbs while, which is particularly interesting, there are almost no Serbs at all among the victims of the tragic wars. Someone is trying to establish the conclusion that the Serbian side alone was conducting killings and genocide in a bestial and orgiastic manner, while the other side sat on its hands, dealing with its daily routines and humanitarian work,” he said. Nikolic said that “it is not true that in this war that destroyed us all only one side was getting killed and the other side was doing the killings,” adding that “perhaps it was all prelude to the seizure of Kosovo-Metohija from Serbia, which we now see at work and in which the organization composed of the most modern and supposedly fairest countries is involved. Yes, but (it is) also (composed) of the most powerful countries, whose 'ranks' were deserted by justice.” “If a future researcher, a future historian, is to derive their conclusions about the war in Bosnia on the basis of the number of the accused and convicted Serbs, Croats and Muslims, he will only be able to conclude that the Serbs alone killed (while) Croats and Muslims (Bosniaks) (were the victims), that almost not a single Serb was murdered and that the Croats killed the Bosniaks here and there, while the Bosniaks killed almost not a single Croat. This is a striking reflection of the state of affairs when it comes to the tribunal's lack of objectivity and impartiality,” he said. When it comes to the ICTY processes, Nikolic gave special attention to the lack of equality between the prosecution and the defense, as “in all proceedings, the prosecutorial party has in every sense been the favored side, to the detriment of the defense of the defendant” when it comes to resources and access to media. Nikolic pointed to the case of Vojislav Seselj as an example of the gravest violation of human rights of the accused, saying that the man “has spent almost full 11 years in prison before the trial against him even began, since the prosecutorial party was unable to obtain evidence for its pre-planned - read 'no evidence' involved - indictment, which is unprecedented in world history.” Nikolic also called on the tribunal and the UN to permit Serb prisoners to serve their sentences in Serbia. “The purpose of the punishments should not be retaliation. Enlightened nations have long ceased to think of punishment as a means of revenge ... But, one of the purposes of punishment is resocialization of defendants. Not forgiveness, but rather, as far as possible, their return to normal life. Making one serve a sentence of imprisonment in a foreign country, away from one's family, in an unfamiliar neighborhood and lacking the knowledge of the local language, can hardly contribute to the goals noted." If Serbs who were convicted before the ICTY are allowed to serve their prison sentences in Serbia, Serbia can guarantee that these persons will receive no preferential treatment and that Serbia is willing to accept international supervision, Nikolic said . www.tanjug.rs/news/83487/nikolic---icty-only-hinders-regional-reconciliation.htm
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