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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 11, 2013 13:33:58 GMT -5
Around five thousand ethnic Hungarians rallied Sunday in the central Romanian city of Targu Mures to call for autonomy for the Szeklers' Land, home to most of their minority, AFP reports. Brandishing Szekler and national Hungarian flags, the protesters gathered in front of the Szekler Martyrs' Monument that pays homage to revolutionaries killed in 1854. They then marched through Targu Mures, a city that in March 1990 was the theatre of violent clashes between ethnic Hungarians (or Szeklers) and Romanians, which left five dead. "The Szeklers' Land must become an autonomous region and this must be enshrined in legislation," Izsak Balazs, the head of the Szeklers' National Council (CNS), told the participants. "We are also protesting against the government's regionalisation draft, which threatens our people's existence," he added. The draft initiated by the centre-left government aims to group Romania's 42 counties into eight regions. Hungarians say they fear this will change the ethnic composition of the areas where they are now more numerous than the Romanians. The members of the 1.4-million strong minority mostly live in the Transylvanian counties of Covasna and Harghita, where they account for around 80 percent of the population. Their leading political party, the Hungarians' Democratic Union (UDMR), which has 27 seats in the Romanian parliament, did not take part in the rally, although its leaders stressed they back the principle of autonomy. Strict security measures were taken in Targu Mures during the protest as the authorities feared the Romanian far right would also stage a rally, but no incidents occurred en.tengrinews.kz/unrest/Thousands-of-ethnic-Hungarians-march-for-autonomy-in-Romania--17648/Budapest vows support for ethnic Hungarians’ right to protest for autonomy in Romania
The Hungarian government prefers to negotiate with its Romanian partners rather than protest, a foreign ministry official told public radio on Friday. But at the same time it supports the right of minorities to demonstrate for their autonomy. State Secretary Zsolt Nemeth commented on the demonstration the Szekler National Council (SZNT), the Transylvanian Hungarian People’s Party and the Hungarian CiviC Party will organise for autonomy in Targu Mures on Sunday. Several demonstrations are expected to be held in support of the Sunday event dubbed “The Day of Szekler Freedom” at Romania’s foreign missions in major cities in Europe and in the United States. Balazs Izsak, the leader of SZNT, told MTI on Thursday that the local government of Targu Mures had on Wednesday given permission for the demonstration. www.politics.hu/20130309/budapest-vows-support-for-ethnic-hungarians-right-to-protest-for-autonomy-in-romania/
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 11, 2013 12:35:49 GMT -5
I didn't realize I was also a mod in the Mac forum... that must be a mistake, I would gladly let it go to a Macedonian but I doubt they'll ever come here. Trust me rex, we're too brute for them they have no chance versus our knowledge...Macs are the weakest of the Balkan bunch in terms of Nationalism, they'll cry foul play real fast and f-off like Chento did.
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 11, 2013 12:28:37 GMT -5
1- Language 2- Islam 3- ? 4 - own a white kipa and an alb-flag ?? ... I guess besa poliphony lahuta cham dances unique language flag Gjergj Kastrioti what the f**k have you got, you run of the mill slavic garbage? What besa? you guys like to talk about it but none of you understand it, you're seen as the most dishonorable people in Balkan, always, and just recently by rest. of Europe too. lahuta? c'mon man be real ! we all have that, or "a version". gtfo with your dances... we know your knock offs... but yea can you be unique too ^^^d'afuq? Skenderbeg? don't go there ...
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 11, 2013 12:20:45 GMT -5
Actually an Italian most probably an Arbresh ...for a slave ring. DURRES, Albania, Nov. 11 — Fatmira Bonjaku's husband is in jail, accused by the police of selling their 3-year-old son to an Italian man in return for the television set that six other children watch in the family's dimly lighted room. The police also say her husband had plans to sell their newest born, whom she is breast feeding. www.essex.ac.uk/armedcon/story_id/000159.htmlmore info gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Albania.htmis there no poor people that do crazy s**t in that cesspool called serbia?
your people attempted to wipe out the population of at least 3 nations in the past two decades and you are appalled by this news?
when did death dealers grow a f**king concience?
when did blood spillers get a moral threshhold?
when did vampiric, ravenous serbs become capable of human compassion?
when did a reptile feel love for its own offspring?
isn't it a ritual in serbia that the firstborn is always eaten?
warmongering genociders who assassinated their own prime minister not longer than 1 decade ago have the f**king audacity to point their finger at others!
a f**king savage cannot be pointing out social issues in others, that's like a meth addict looking down on a drunk look at you adt... back to your old self in jibber jabbering a shit load of crap while not saying anything at all really. No need to get sensitive boy, just relaying some facts... I know how much that hurts you guys
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 18:33:18 GMT -5
man... you're killing me right now LOL I hope they come too
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 17:59:05 GMT -5
I wonder who'll be playing super-ninja-mac chasing you with a light saber LOL
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 17:23:42 GMT -5
koj ti je kurac? hahahaha Ca to pise? ne razumijem arapska slova. dobro ste razumJeli taakoooo brateee!!
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 16:40:46 GMT -5
rex you're a walking-oxymoron. What you accuse the Slav Macs of doing is exactly what the albos are trying to do.
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 16:04:18 GMT -5
1- Language 2- Islam 3- ? 4 - own a white kipa and an alb-flag ?? ... I guess 5- being able to sell your offspring for meager furnishings 6-own a AK-47 FiXt for reality... LMFAO !
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 16:00:06 GMT -5
The problem was that Jeremić chose a song of war to be a 'song of peace'. The guy messed up. During World War I, the river Drina (located on the border between Bosnia and Serbia) was the site of a bloody battle between the Austro-Hungarian army and the allied forces of the Serbian army, the Battle of Cer, from 16 August to 19 August 1914. The triumph of the Serbians over their numerically superior Austro-Hungarian opponents marked the first Allied victory over the Central Powers during the First World War. To honour the bravery of the fallen, the Serbian composer Stanislav Binički composed the "March on the Drina", "Mars na Drinu". This song has become a symbol of the bravery of the Serbs during the First World War.It's a song symbolizing bravery and a moment of victory for freedom.
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 15:50:37 GMT -5
that's an indication of how loosely assembled the greek identity is rather than administrative diligence, there is no such thing as greek racial continuity or nucleous, if you simply fullfill a handful of criteria then you are a greek, 1.christian orthodox, 2.speak greek language ...that's it. What constitutes being albanian? 1- Language 2- Islam 3- ? 4 - own a white kipa and an alb-flag ?? ... I guess
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 15:01:45 GMT -5
NEW YORK -- UN General Assembly President Vuk Jeremić has said that those who do not want the truth to be told are getting nervous ahead of a debate on the Hague Tribunal. He responded on Saturday to the appeal from the Congress of North American Bosniaks and the Advisory Council for Bosnia-Herzegovina sent to U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice by saying it was obvious there those who did not want truth to be revealed were becoming increasingly nervous ahead of the debate on April 10.
The Bosniak associations from North America asked Rice on Saturday to censor Jeremić urgently and call off the UN debate on the Hague Tribunal scheduled for April 10. Check out the hypocracy being demonstrated by the Bosniaks... "they" want to be recognized, "they" want the acknowledgement but "they" do not beleive anyone else has this right. So instead of battling it out WITH FACTS, they go to mother America and cry like a baby begging FOR THEM to stop the SERBS.
Notice how the Muslim Europeans have the tendency to behave the same and not knowing what the true meaning of justice is. “There is obviously growing nervousness in those who do not like the fact that the truth will be presented on the UN stage,” Jeremić pointed out.
“The preparations for the debate on international criminal judiciary set for April 10 are in the final stages,” he noted, adding that pressure was being ignored.
“The morning part of the debate will allow UN members to present their national views, including Bosnia-Herzegovina,” the UNGA president told Tanjug. The two Bosniak associations told Rice that Jeremić had bad intentions towards the Hague Tribunal and advocated the “Serbian nationalist program”.
The associations expressed concern over the coming debate, which focuses on the work of the Hague Tribunal, Turkish Anadolu news agency has reported.www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=03&dd=10&nav_id=85093I LMAO pretty hard when I read this;"The two Bosniak associations told Rice that Jeremić had bad intentions towards the Hague Tribunal and advocated the “Serbian nationalist program”It's like rex is their spokesman LOL !
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 14:45:40 GMT -5
Snakes have no shame.
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 14:05:06 GMT -5
History of Serbia By Harold W. V. Temperley (1917) THIS book is not only a history of Serbia and Montenegro, but is also a study of the historical development of the whole of the Jugo-Slav peoples. It is very instructive, and is written in a singularly restrained style when one considers the battles, invasions, revolts, and oppressions it deals with, for, in the author's phrase, the story of the Jugo-Slavs is 'bloody beyond ordinary bloodiness.' The Jugo-Slavs early became split up into two great sections, of which the Croats and Dalmatians adopted the Church of Rome, the Latin alphabet, and in part, Western culture as far as they were permitted by their German oppressors ; whereas the Serbians and Montenegrins acknowledged the Greek rite, and so, unfortunately for themselves, were ecclesiastically subordinate to the Byzantine Empire, and on its fall were absolutely cut off from the West by the Turkish Conquest. But the old kingdom of Serbia, in spite of its constant wars with Bulgarians, Hungarians, and Byzantines, had a great history, as we see here, and the spirit of nationality has always been strong, and, we have reason to think, will continue among the suffering people. 'Disaster,' says the writer, 'has sometimes created and has always intensified national feeling in Serbia.' The period of the Serbian zenith was from about 1190 to 1400. Stephen Dushan (1321-55), their greatest ruler, aimed at the Imperial throne of the East when cut off by death, and his death was followed by a gradual decline of Serbian power to a state of weakness, which allowed the Turkish invaders to conquer in 1389 at the battle of Kossovo, 'The Field of Blackbirds,' still sung in many sad ballads as the end of a great period of freedom.The rest of the history deals with Turkish misrule and oppression, which was inaugurated at once by the * tribute of children,' and the gradual acquisition of independence by Serbia and the fiery battles for freedom in Montenegro under the chiefs and vladikas. It recounts the painful feud in Serbia between the two chief families, the Karageorgevitch and the Obrenovitch, which did not end until the extinction of the latter worthless dynasty in 1903 by the brutal murder of King Alexander and Queen Draga, a murder which made way for the present king, of the rival family, and which was not greatly disapproved of by the tumultuous subjects of the Serbian Crown. It is sad to think that the hard-won Serbian and Montenegrin independence is again under a hateful eclipse, but if history teaches anything it shows a phoenix-like power of resurrection among the Slav peoples.
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 13:24:49 GMT -5
again ....one more time just one note .... "all of them Albanized Serbs "
does not make sense whatsoever .....bcs historicly Albanian never assimilated nobody .... but slavs have assimilated Albanians and greeks also *Italians have incorporated them ....they still speak and know they are culturally Albanian and freely at that with no xenophobia * same with Turkey also ..... his article is saying serbians that assimilated into Albanians ..... no such thing ....its Albanians/Illyrians assimilated into serbian
THE COLONIZER -INVADERS ALWAYS ASSIMILATE THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE
now continue .....
By saying "no such thing" you proving more that albs never had influence, we're actually giving the albies more credit than that. Albanisation (or Albanianisation) is the linguistic or cultural assimilation to the Albanian language and Albanian culture.The concept is most commonly applied to Kosovo. During censuses in the former Yugoslavia, many Roma were registered as Albanian, as they identified with Muslim Albanian culture as opposed to the Christian Serbian culture. Albanisation has also occurred with Torbashis, a Muslim Slavic minority in the Republic of Macedonia, and the Gorani people in southern Kosovo, who often have Albanised surnames. At the end of the 19th century, writer Branislav Nušić claimed that the Serb poturice (converts to Islam) of Orahovac began speaking Albanian and marrying Albanian women. Similar claims were put forward by Jovan Hadži Vasiljević (l. 1866-1948), who claimed that when he visited Orahovac in World War I, he could not distinguish Orthodox from Islamicized and Albanized Serbs. According to him they spoke Serbian, wore the same costumes, but claimed Serbian, Albanian or Turk ethnicity. The Albanian starosedeoci (old families) were Slavophone; they did not speak Albanian but a Slavic dialect (naš govor, Our language) at home.In the 1921 census, the majority of Muslim Albanians of Orahovac were registered under the category "Serbs and Croats".Mark Krasniqi, the Kosovo Albanian ethnographer, recalled in 1957: "During my own research, some of them told me that their tongue is similar to Macedonian rather than Serbian ( it is clear that they want to dissociate themselves from everything Serbian. It is likely they are the last remnants of what is now known in Serbian sources as 'Arnautaši', Islamicised and half-way Albanianised Slavs." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanisation
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 12:49:36 GMT -5
who was the buyer .....greek priest ? I think it was a Turk or Bosnian.. honestly. Actually an Italian most probably an Arbresh ...for a slave ring. DURRES, Albania, Nov. 11 — Fatmira Bonjaku's husband is in jail, accused by the police of selling their 3-year-old son to an Italian man in return for the television set that six other children watch in the family's dimly lighted room. The police also say her husband had plans to sell their newest born, whom she is breast feeding. www.essex.ac.uk/armedcon/story_id/000159.htmlmore info gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Albania.htm
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 10:32:05 GMT -5
Keep screaming rex, facts are still louder.
Tell me, is Mrzic an Albanan name, or how about Kozic? lol f'kn moron
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 10:18:26 GMT -5
Barely thousands if that, not hundreds of thousands. And another people that play an Asian instrument while screaming at the top of their lungs are the "Serbs" of Montenegro. The difference between culture and monuments is why Kosovo became (or re-became) Alb.
Kosovo was never Albanian, this seems to be the point of the thread. Just open your eyes for a moment and stop pretending to know Balkan history cause one fundamental aspects of what "occurred" is the systematic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo throughout time. The albanians owe it all to Tito, in fact he's done more for the albs than any modern day alb himself. "Perhaps one of the most significant examples of Tito's ethnic manipulation was the political and territorial weakening of Serbs in Kosovo, their ancient cultural heartland. After tens of thousands of Kosovo Serbs were driven out during WWII and Albanian families moved in to take over Serbian homes and property, Tito intensified the problem by refusing to allow Serbs to return and reclaim their homes."
::: Serbian-Albanian relations were likewise seriously affected by World War II. Albania was another state neighboring Yugoslavia that was allied with Hitler. Italy's fascists forces moved in to help Albania occupy Serbia's southern province. Although Kosovo was populated by a Serbian majority prior to World War II, after the Albanian occupation of Kosovo from 1941 to 1945, up to 200,000 Kosovo Serbs were driven out, while Albanian families moved into Serbian homes and property.
-War of Words: Washington Tackles the Yugoslav Conflict This was no secret during the time everybody knew about this throughout Yugoslavia, you were always seen as squatters in Kosovo.
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 10, 2013 10:00:45 GMT -5
That was a good read. Great find sorcelow. It is not widely known how Albanians also had respect towards Serbs, recognizing their traditions while being Muslim they always knew this was Slavic land and also why they were one gatekeepers of our most holy monasteries before these new kids destroyed them all. Toponyms in many ethnic Albanian villages in Kosovo show that Serbs had lived there the preceding centuries, and in some places Orthodox cemeteries were shielded against desecrators by ethnic Albanians themselves, because they knew that the graves of their own ancestors lay there.Albanian for centuries got along and respected Serbs and the Greeks, we can see trends in history aside from the example above the Albanians got involved IN Serb and Greek communities. This new age hate they developed started from their communist times in my opinion with the ancient claims and superioty complex. rex there's nothing you can say. Your denial relies on claims you put together yourself and by one liners by authors who know little to nothing about Balkan. You're intentionally ignorant I think deep down the truth burns. The Ottomans shaped the Albanian people forever. Albs guarded Serb monasteries for two reasons. One, they could be trusted. Two, they were being paid to protect them from other Albs. It was a mafia sort of "protection". In fact numerous Serb villages survived in this feudal way. Really? That's your answer; they can be trusted and were paid? Why would the Serbs especially the Serbian Church trust Muslim Albanians to guard and protect the ground? Why not get Serbs to do it if came down to trust.... and the Serb with his faith would probably do it for free. Paid? So the albie soul went for cheap back then too? I thought the albs always saw the Slavs/Serbs as invaders, so you accept a few pieces of silver to be a janitor in our Church... is what you're saying? ... The Church didn't pay anyone and if there was money it was next to nothing. Bottom line this didn't have to do with Serbs "trusting the albs" (according to your perspective) you're looking at this the wrong way, and it wasn't about money. It was tradition, this role was passed down to the son. With all our celebrations in Kosovo with Vidovdan, Slavas and Bozic the Albanians had their own role in this celebrating, this new generation of albs are constantly spitting on their ancestors face.
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 9, 2013 22:26:45 GMT -5
It just comes down to where YOU stand when it come to the Palestine-Israeili situation.
well... ?
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