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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 20:38:23 GMT -5
The Albanian myth from William Maxwell (Albania � Greece)With a great surprise we read some amazing historical quotes that concern various periods from European history that derives from Prof. William Maxwell and can be found in the article "Journey to Albania" (http://gaiaschool.info/Journey_to_Albania.html). These quotes read: "The Albanians are universally acknowledged as the descendants of the Illyrians who gave the world Alexander the Great, Emperor Constantine, several other Roman and Byzantine Emperors, one of the popes of the Roman Catholic Church, several Grand Vizirs of the Ottoman Empire, Muhammad Ali Pasha, father of modern Egypt, Mustafa Kemal Atat�rk, founder of modern Turkey, as well as Mother Teresa destined for sainthood because of her services to the poor of India. Albania was also the only country in Europe that protected all the Jews, i.e. the only European country where the Jewish population was increased during WWII." I will try to analyze step by step the accuracies of the above quote. Not all of them because I am not expert of all these that William Maxwell wrote such as the Ottoman history. "Albanians are universally acknowledged as the descendants of the Illyrians�.." This myth systemically cultivated from known Albanian centres that promote the historical revisionism and extreme nationalism in the Balkans. Albanians are not universally acknowledged as the descendants of the Illyrians. This confirms from several studies and works such as �Illyrians� by John Wilkes, several works from the expert of the Albanian history Mrs Miranda Vickers, Albanian identities: myth and history by Stephanie Schwandner-Sievers and Bernd J�rgen Fischer, global wide collectively works such as the ancient, modern and medieval history of the Cambridge and Oxford Universities e.t.c.And finally: "�Albanians are universally acknowledged�who gave the world Alexander the Great�" This is one from the most historically inaccurate arguments; similar with the FYROM argument (what did I tell ya )that Alexander The Great was of Slavonic origin. Thousands of historical works and many writers (Hammond, Worthington, Borza, Stoneman, Ulrich Wilcken e.t.c.) have agreed that Alexander The Great was born in July 356 (Arr. 7.28.1, Plut. Alex. 3.5), was the son of Macedonian Philip�s fourth wife Olympias, a princess from Epirus, situated to Macedon�s west. None of them mention that Alexander was Illyrian, and the most inaccurate � Albanian (http://www.macedonia-evidence.org) as William Maxwell quoted. Macedonians according the same sources were a mix of Greek and older ancient tribes or were just Greek or of unknown origin (Borza). Epirotans according the same sources were Greeks and the most known tribe was the Mollosian. None of them mention Illyrian or Albanian. "Albanians are universally acknowledged�who gave�Emperor Constantine, several other Roman and Byzantine Emperors (were Albanians)". Emperor Constantine and several other Roman and Byzantine Emperors were not Albanians, as William Maxwell claims. Byzantine Dynasties were Greek, Armenian, Roman, Anatolian origin. This is also confirmed from many writers and experts of the Byzantine history like George Ostrogorski, Paul Stephenson, Cyril Mango, Joan Hussey, John Norwich as also from global wide collectively works like European medieval history of the Cambridge, Oxford and Michigan Universities e.t.c.. "Albanians are universally acknowledged�who gave�pope in the Roman Catholic Church�" Catholic Encyclopaedia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/), the same source used by William Maxwell doesn�t even mention that any one of the Popes was Albanian! " Albania was also the only country in Europe that protected all the Jews, i.e. the only European country where the Jewish population was increased during WWII" At the 30s and 40s and according the Albanian sources only 200 Jews lived! Jewish population actually grew during the Axis occupation; it is estimated that there were 1800 Jews in Albania at the end of war but the small Jewish community (200 souls) of Vlore was expelled from the country at the Nazis concentration�s camp. Albania at the WWII also as is known was allied of the fascist Italy and thousands Albanians were enlisted in the known SS regiments (SS Division Skanderbeg and Handschar Division. CONCLUSIONThere is an Illyrian myth, with which Albanian culture has been flirting for at least 150 years, and as a myth it can't be questioned for it has all the answers. There is also a very tentative Illyrian science, based mainly on archaeology, and on some data transmitted by Ancient Greek and Roman Historians. Those who are ready to accept that Illyrians and Albanians were one people should have a look at the Messapic inscriptions, in Puglia. These inscriptions show that the Illyrian question is extremely complicated, and that it isn't likely to be resolved, unless fundamental epigraphic discoveries are made. In the real world there are no examples of ancient Illyrian literature surviving (aside from the Messapian writings if they can be considered Illyrian), it is difficult to clarify its place within the Indo-European language family. Albanians first appear in the historical record in Byzantine sources of the late 11th century. At this point, they are already fully Christianized. Very little evidence of pre-Christian Albanian culture survives(this cannot be said about your neighbours), and Albanian mythology and folklore as it presents itself is notoriously amalgamated from various sources; showing in particular Greek influence. Albanians are and have been referred to by other terms as well. Some of them are: Arb�r, Arb�n, Arb�resh�; the old native term denoting ancient and medieval Albanians and sharing the same root with the latter. At the time the country was called Arb�r (Gheg: Arb�n) and Arb�ria (Gheg: Arb�nia). This term is still used for the Albanians that migrated to Italy during the Middle Ages. Arnauts; old term used mainly from Turks and by extension by European authors during the Ottoman Empire. A derivate of Arb�r, Albanian. Skipetars; the historical rendering of the ethnonym Shqiptar (or Shqyptar by French, Austrian and German authors) in use from the 18th century (but probably earlier) to the present, the literal translation of which is subject of the eagle. The term �iptari is a derivation used by Yugoslavs which the Albanians consider derogatory. There is not any historical record as regards the connection of the Illyrians (that were last mentioned in 7th century AD, during the Slavic migration to the Balkans) and Albanians. Also, there is no linguistic connection of the unknown Illyrian language with the Albanian language. Prof. William Maxwell must be more cautious when writing articles regarding history, as he is not a historical expert. There isn�t much difference between historical revisionism and historical ignorance; and this concludes to the legitimate scholastic correction of existing knowledge about an historical event, or to the illegitimate distortion of historical records. amchron.soundenterprises.net/articles/view/122210Well written, clear and concise... yet I still bet any money you'll miss the plot. brought to you by Australian Macedonian Advisory Council /fyromanians ........hahahhahahhahahaaahhahaaha I bet you can't prove ONE point wrong.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 20:28:26 GMT -5
Organ remover ....... No comment on albo epic-poetry? feelin cornered rexy ? I thought you loved the epics.... FOR YOUR EYES ONLY There is an Illyrian myth, with which Albanian culture has been flirting for at least 150 years, and as a myth it can't be questioned (for it has all the answers). There is also a very tentative Illyrian science, based mainly on archaeology, and on some data transmitted by Ancient Greek and Latin Historians.
These inscriptions, being totally alien to Albanian, show that the Illyrian question is extremely complicated, and that it isn't likely to be resolved, unless fundamental epigraphic discoveries are made.
The great Illyrologist Hans Krahe himself was no supporter of the Illyrian theory about the origin of Albanians. In his late years he came to understand that most of his paleolinguistic theories were generally wrong. Krahe started by finding Illyrian traces everywhere in Europe, but then it was made clear that all he had found were Indo-European traces -- and nobody had any doubt that Indo-European tribes had been in Europe for a long many years.
Onomastics is of no great help in settling linguistic and ethnogenetic issues. Let's have a look at some important place names in Albanian territories, like Dajti, Shkodra, Durresi, Vlora, Burreli, Drini, Shkumbini, Tirana, etc. Are they Albanian? We can't say that, for there are no Albanian words that would explain them (as we explain, for example, Kruja with "krue" - fountain).
This might well be true, but seems pathetic in front of the fact that we can't explain through Albanian words the place names we currently use, let alone the Illyrian ones. So what?
Let's move up in time, and reach the Middle Ages. In the Middle Ages the Albanians were somewhere there, though their first mention is in the 11th century (or 12th, I'm not sure). Where were they living? Where are the places they have named after their common words (technically called appellatives)? The south is full -- literally full -- of Slavic place names, especially the areas of Vlora, Tepelena, Skrapar, Mallakaster, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows, the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism. Ardian Vebiu ...just makin sure you don't miss it
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 20:13:20 GMT -5
HAHAHAHA rex , check this out you'll have a chuckle... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_EagleWTF?? what kind of epic is this.... when we all know Skani donated his eagle to your cause.... oh wait... this was the epic-poem your ancestors were propogating back when Skandenbeg was still YOUR enemy.. . hehehehe
"Suddenly the youth heard above him the loud whir of the great eagle's wings..." LMFAO!!!!
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 20:06:29 GMT -5
You own nothing, everyone just found out about you yesterday. True, and thats because you came yesterday. Yes, b/c I am [everyone].
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 20:04:53 GMT -5
There is an Illyrian myth, with which Albanian culture has been flirting for at least 150 years, and as a myth it can't be questioned (for it has all the answers). There is also a very tentative Illyrian science, based mainly on archaeology, and on some data transmitted by Ancient Greek and Latin Historians.
These inscriptions, being totally alien to Albanian, show that the Illyrian question is extremely complicated, and that it isn't likely to be resolved, unless fundamental epigraphic discoveries are made.
The great Illyrologist Hans Krahe himself was no supporter of the Illyrian theory about the origin of Albanians. In his late years he came to understand that most of his paleolinguistic theories were generally wrong. Krahe started by finding Illyrian traces everywhere in Europe, but then it was made clear that all he had found were Indo-European traces -- and nobody had any doubt that Indo-European tribes had been in Europe for a long many years.
Onomastics is of no great help in settling linguistic and ethnogenetic issues. Let's have a look at some important place names in Albanian territories, like Dajti, Shkodra, Durresi, Vlora, Burreli, Drini, Shkumbini, Tirana, etc. Are they Albanian? We can't say that, for there are no Albanian words that would explain them (as we explain, for example, Kruja with "krue" - fountain).
This might well be true, but seems pathetic in front of the fact that we can't explain through Albanian words the place names we currently use, let alone the Illyrian ones. So what?
Let's move up in time, and reach the Middle Ages. In the Middle Ages the Albanians were somewhere there, though their first mention is in the 11th century (or 12th, I'm not sure). Where were they living? Where are the places they have named after their common words (technically called appellatives)? The south is full -- literally full -- of Slavic place names, especially the areas of Vlora, Tepelena, Skrapar, Mallakaster, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows, the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism. Ardian Vebiu The Albanian myth from William Maxwell (Albania � Greece)With a great surprise we read some amazing historical quotes that concern various periods from European history that derives from Prof. William Maxwell and can be found in the article "Journey to Albania" (http://gaiaschool.info/Journey_to_Albania.html). These quotes read: "The Albanians are universally acknowledged as the descendants of the Illyrians who gave the world Alexander the Great, Emperor Constantine, several other Roman and Byzantine Emperors, one of the popes of the Roman Catholic Church, several Grand Vizirs of the Ottoman Empire, Muhammad Ali Pasha, father of modern Egypt, Mustafa Kemal Atat�rk, founder of modern Turkey, as well as Mother Teresa destined for sainthood because of her services to the poor of India. Albania was also the only country in Europe that protected all the Jews, i.e. the only European country where the Jewish population was increased during WWII." I will try to analyze step by step the accuracies of the above quote. Not all of them because I am not expert of all these that William Maxwell wrote such as the Ottoman history. "Albanians are universally acknowledged as the descendants of the Illyrians�.." This myth systemically cultivated from known Albanian centres that promote the historical revisionism and extreme nationalism in the Balkans. Albanians are not universally acknowledged as the descendants of the Illyrians. This confirms from several studies and works such as �Illyrians� by John Wilkes, several works from the expert of the Albanian history Mrs Miranda Vickers, Albanian identities: myth and history by Stephanie Schwandner-Sievers and Bernd J�rgen Fischer, global wide collectively works such as the ancient, modern and medieval history of the Cambridge and Oxford Universities e.t.c.And finally: "�Albanians are universally acknowledged�who gave the world Alexander the Great�" This is one from the most historically inaccurate arguments; similar with the FYROM argument (what did I tell ya )that Alexander The Great was of Slavonic origin. Thousands of historical works and many writers (Hammond, Worthington, Borza, Stoneman, Ulrich Wilcken e.t.c.) have agreed that Alexander The Great was born in July 356 (Arr. 7.28.1, Plut. Alex. 3.5), was the son of Macedonian Philip�s fourth wife Olympias, a princess from Epirus, situated to Macedon�s west. None of them mention that Alexander was Illyrian, and the most inaccurate � Albanian (http://www.macedonia-evidence.org) as William Maxwell quoted. Macedonians according the same sources were a mix of Greek and older ancient tribes or were just Greek or of unknown origin (Borza). Epirotans according the same sources were Greeks and the most known tribe was the Mollosian. None of them mention Illyrian or Albanian. "Albanians are universally acknowledged�who gave�Emperor Constantine, several other Roman and Byzantine Emperors (were Albanians)". Emperor Constantine and several other Roman and Byzantine Emperors were not Albanians, as William Maxwell claims. Byzantine Dynasties were Greek, Armenian, Roman, Anatolian origin. This is also confirmed from many writers and experts of the Byzantine history like George Ostrogorski, Paul Stephenson, Cyril Mango, Joan Hussey, John Norwich as also from global wide collectively works like European medieval history of the Cambridge, Oxford and Michigan Universities e.t.c.. "Albanians are universally acknowledged�who gave�pope in the Roman Catholic Church�" Catholic Encyclopaedia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/), the same source used by William Maxwell doesn�t even mention that any one of the Popes was Albanian! " Albania was also the only country in Europe that protected all the Jews, i.e. the only European country where the Jewish population was increased during WWII" At the 30s and 40s and according the Albanian sources only 200 Jews lived! Jewish population actually grew during the Axis occupation; it is estimated that there were 1800 Jews in Albania at the end of war but the small Jewish community (200 souls) of Vlore was expelled from the country at the Nazis concentration�s camp. Albania at the WWII also as is known was allied of the fascist Italy and thousands Albanians were enlisted in the known SS regiments (SS Division Skanderbeg and Handschar Division. CONCLUSIONThere is an Illyrian myth, with which Albanian culture has been flirting for at least 150 years, and as a myth it can't be questioned for it has all the answers. There is also a very tentative Illyrian science, based mainly on archaeology, and on some data transmitted by Ancient Greek and Roman Historians. Those who are ready to accept that Illyrians and Albanians were one people should have a look at the Messapic inscriptions, in Puglia. These inscriptions show that the Illyrian question is extremely complicated, and that it isn't likely to be resolved, unless fundamental epigraphic discoveries are made. In the real world there are no examples of ancient Illyrian literature surviving (aside from the Messapian writings if they can be considered Illyrian), it is difficult to clarify its place within the Indo-European language family. Albanians first appear in the historical record in Byzantine sources of the late 11th century. At this point, they are already fully Christianized. Very little evidence of pre-Christian Albanian culture survives(this cannot be said about your neighbours), and Albanian mythology and folklore as it presents itself is notoriously amalgamated from various sources; showing in particular Greek influence. Albanians are and have been referred to by other terms as well. Some of them are: Arb�r, Arb�n, Arb�resh�; the old native term denoting ancient and medieval Albanians and sharing the same root with the latter. At the time the country was called Arb�r (Gheg: Arb�n) and Arb�ria (Gheg: Arb�nia). This term is still used for the Albanians that migrated to Italy during the Middle Ages. Arnauts; old term used mainly from Turks and by extension by European authors during the Ottoman Empire. A derivate of Arb�r, Albanian. Skipetars; the historical rendering of the ethnonym Shqiptar (or Shqyptar by French, Austrian and German authors) in use from the 18th century (but probably earlier) to the present, the literal translation of which is subject of the eagle. The term �iptari is a derivation used by Yugoslavs which the Albanians consider derogatory. There is not any historical record as regards the connection of the Illyrians (that were last mentioned in 7th century AD, during the Slavic migration to the Balkans) and Albanians. Also, there is no linguistic connection of the unknown Illyrian language with the Albanian language. Prof. William Maxwell must be more cautious when writing articles regarding history, as he is not a historical expert. There isn�t much difference between historical revisionism and historical ignorance; and this concludes to the legitimate scholastic correction of existing knowledge about an historical event, or to the illegitimate distortion of historical records. amchron.soundenterprises.net/articles/view/122210Well written, clear and concise... yet I still bet any money you'll miss the plot.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 19:54:22 GMT -5
There is an Illyrian myth, with which Albanian culture has been flirting for at least 150 years, and as a myth it can't be questioned (for it has all the answers). There is also a very tentative Illyrian science, based mainly on archaeology, and on some data transmitted by Ancient Greek and Latin Historians.
These inscriptions, being totally alien to Albanian, show that the Illyrian question is extremely complicated, and that it isn't likely to be resolved, unless fundamental epigraphic discoveries are made.
The great Illyrologist Hans Krahe himself was no supporter of the Illyrian theory about the origin of Albanians. In his late years he came to understand that most of his paleolinguistic theories were generally wrong. Krahe started by finding Illyrian traces everywhere in Europe, but then it was made clear that all he had found were Indo-European traces -- and nobody had any doubt that Indo-European tribes had been in Europe for a long many years.
Onomastics is of no great help in settling linguistic and ethnogenetic issues. Let's have a look at some important place names in Albanian territories, like Dajti, Shkodra, Durresi, Vlora, Burreli, Drini, Shkumbini, Tirana, etc. Are they Albanian? We can't say that, for there are no Albanian words that would explain them (as we explain, for example, Kruja with "krue" - fountain).
This might well be true, but seems pathetic in front of the fact that we can't explain through Albanian words the place names we currently use, let alone the Illyrian ones. So what?
Let's move up in time, and reach the Middle Ages. In the Middle Ages the Albanians were somewhere there, though their first mention is in the 11th century (or 12th, I'm not sure). Where were they living? Where are the places they have named after their common words (technically called appellatives)? The south is full -- literally full -- of Slavic place names, especially the areas of Vlora, Tepelena, Skrapar, Mallakaster, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows, the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism.
Ardian Vebiu
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 18:19:44 GMT -5
Albanians and Greeks are the oldest ethnicity in Balkan. If Greeks are owned by Arvanites, than yes we do own Balkan. You own nothing, everyone just found out about you yesterday.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 17:55:30 GMT -5
Albs try out Nationalism and get told by Mother America; "HooooLLDD UP" (Reuters) - The United States has warned leaders in NATO ally Albania in no uncertain terms to stop stoking nationalism in the run-up to an election because they risk destabilizing the region.In a memo to the Albanian Foreign Ministry reported on Friday by a number of newspapers, the U.S. State Department said Albania's leaders were wading into "potentially dangerous" territory, given the history of ethnic conflicts in the Balkans. ---Mother America is warning.... with the Albs heed? Such remarks "not only promote more inflammatory behavior and distract from this region's priorities, but also potentially incite violence, erode peace and stability, and impact our relationship", it said. Even more bluntly, it told Albanian politicians to "stay out of the affairs of Serbia", which is in delicate European Union-mediated talks aimed at normalizing ties with Kosovo, whose mostly ethnic Albanian population broke away from Serbia in 1999. ----learn something rexy, your overlords are speaking. www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-albania-usa-idUSBRE91E0VD20130215You poor pups.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 17:37:53 GMT -5
You're a failure adt, the fact you come here with such a front only tells me you're a p**y at the outmost extermities. You probably come back here to re-read your s**t whenever you need a boost in your wretched life. says the f*ggot who closed his account off and then reared his ugly head under a different alias and assumed an entirely different more radical demenour, spineless c**t! worthless, slithering reptile. picko is a downtrodden, filthy scumbag but at least he doesn't try to hide it unlike you, insidious, trecherous shape shifting c**t! call me a p**y to my face and see if i don't choke that miserable life out of you, f**king disposable tampon, you owe your entire persona in here to me you worthless wankstain, you recycle my words in here like picko recycles his wife's evening gowns on c**ktail night. f**king maggot! You're a nobody, no one owes you any explanations its not like I was swindling anybody or denied anything. God, just stop it already, you're hurt... go take out your frustration on porn. ps: I would call you a p**y right to your face without any hesitation as I've done before with people with fronts like yours, but what I would love more is see what you'd do about it. Yes, that's what I would be excited about.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 16:39:56 GMT -5
Rex finally let his bitch out, how are ya adt? everytime you get cornered and exposed you pull the sex-deprived feminist act, exhausted from yappin but still trying to make a point by resorting to muffled , mouth foaming nonsense - but all she really needs is a good f**k. maybe after your period. f**kface (you) said The irony is still settling in... the fact that you tried to pull a fast one and think you can fool anybody is fascinating. i treat bitches like you with the utmost contempt, you're nothing but a f**king gimmick in here, you're a peg below picko, and i thought one couldn't fall lower than that bottom feeding vile wretch. You're a failure adt, the fact you come here with such a front only tells me you're a pussy at the outmost extermities. You probably come back here to re-read your shit whenever you need a boost in your wretched life.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 15, 2013 16:34:10 GMT -5
Lessons from stunts pulled by the albs... Lessons From Kosovo: What Europe Could Not AchievePRISTINA - Before General Xavier Bout de Marnhac can walk up to the second floor of the Gagi restaurant in the center of Kosovo's capital, his security escort must inspect the premises. This is standard procedure. The French general, whom we were meeting only a few hours before he was leaving Kosovo, is the outgoing chief of the European Union Rule of Law Mission in Kosovo (EULEX), where 2,000 European prosecutors and judges, police officers and customs officials lend technical assistance to the local authorities. A supposedly neutral presence that has no one fooled. General Bout de Marnhac has executive powers. His employees have penal immunity. The cases they investigate – which are very sensitive – involve the country’s elite. “Our work is long and complicated, and the mission has created expectations that will be impossible to fulfill,” he admits. “EULEX is a frustration-making machine.” Who remembers Kosovo? The 1999 war. NATO bombing of Serbia. The international contingent – the KFOR – and UN administration. On Feb. 17, 2008, the Republic of Kosovo declared its independence, which is recognized today by 98 UN member states. After the independence, the EU took from the UN and created the largest civil mission in its history – EULEX. The internationally supervised independence came to an end in September 2012. Summed up like this, the timeline of Kosovo’s history seems quite linear. A story of emancipation. But upon closer look, things are not so simple. For instance, if you were to flip over Kosovo's new criminal procedure code, you would find the logo of the U.S. State Department. --- LMAO!!! As Afghanistan and Iraq have taught us, winning the peace is far more complex than winning the war. And in Kosovo as well, the issue of the cost of “state building” – more than 600 million euros in five years for EULEX – and the methods used beg the question: what is the price of stability and peace? On this subject, suspicions are growing: is the EU turning a blind eye to corruption and organized crime? Priority has been given to the diplomatic talks between Kosovo and Serbia, which started in March 2011. “Everyone –from EU members to local authorities – seems disappointed by EULEX. But it is wrong to believe that bringing judges and police officers is enough for everything to change right away. It takes time,” says Samuel Zbogar, a Slovenian representative of the EU in Kosovo. “Your judges and policemen despise us” EULEX’s first weakness is political. Its goal is to help a state that five EU members don’t recognize (Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Romania and Slovakia). The second is territorial. The mission cannot work properly in the northern towns, which are populated by Serbs. EULEX vehicles are not always able to pass through the roadblocks, and witnesses are intimidated or hostile to the mission. The multiple layers of administrations add to the chaos. How do you enforce the law if you don’t know which one to use? There are also the complexities of “ state building:” the EULEX expats, who are well paid (8,000 euros) have a tendency to answer more to their governments than to their hierarchy. They don’t spend enough time in Kosovo – one or two years – to know the local issues and mindset, even if many have previously worked with UNMIK, the UN mission in Kosovo. Their Kosovar colleagues are not ready to take over. More than 80% of them were trained during the former Yugoslav regime and have been unemployed for years. “They don’t know the jurisprudence, and the younger ones lack training,” says General Bout de Marnhac. It is not likely that the EULEX mission will end in June 2014, as expected. The Kosovar justice system doesn’t have the freedom, the means, or the competence to deal with the sensitive cases on its own.One of the cases that made the most noise was the Limaj case. Fatmir Limaj, a former transportation minister, was targeted by several criminal investigations. One of the key witnesses in his war-crimes trial committed suicide in Germany. But Limaj, after a first acquittal, was incarcerated in November 2012. “Can you think of another European country where the ruling party has been targeted by so many investigations?” asks Vice-Prime Minister Hajredin Kuci. “Your judges and policemen despise us. They are not accountable for their actions. They shouldn’t be allowed to take over cases from our magistrates without even telling them.” The government’s critics differ from the opposition’s, who denounces a selective justice system. “Only the small fish end up in jail, not the big sharks. Limaj is in jail so that Prime Minister Thaci doesn’t have to go to prison,” says Albin Kurti, the leader of the Vetevendosje nationalist movement. He wants Europe to send teachers and doctors instead of judges and police officers. Avni Zogiani, an anti-corruption activist, has similar doubts concerning EULEX’s motivations. “We gave them files and evidence,” he says, “they carried out investigations but in the end, they didn’t charge anyone. EULEX gives impunity to those – in the elite – who are the most docile.” www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/lessons-from-kosovo-what-europe-could-not-achieve/kosovo-independence-corruption-police-balkans/c1s10905/well well... there you have it in print, you just another American Colonial state, NOT indepedant whatsover, YOUR OWN Bills have the american logo printed on them !!! LOL... you've become a liability "independant" kosovo... you will be dropped... you had the chance and failed, good riddance.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:53:22 GMT -5
you're a failed people ... lolz .. rex's BRO pulling a fast one on bush. HAHAHAHAHA
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:50:50 GMT -5
no your not getting it ! 500 years ......oh wow sounds so familiar ....uh maybe 500 years of ottoman rule and subjugation DUUUUUH ! you're a failed people ... lolz
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:50:30 GMT -5
you should cut the drugs
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:44:34 GMT -5
That's right all of Europe praised Skanderbeg while the Albanians weren't - didn't till hundreds of years later, almost 500 to be exact .... f**king idiot, maybe you're finally getting it how can you be so stupid and not realize that this is what I have been saying the whole time? Show some respect when discussing Skanderbeg I'll school you and anybody here. no your not getting it ! 500 years ......oh wow sounds so familiar ....uh maybe 500 years of ottoman rule and subjugation DUUUUUH ! you're a failed people ... lolz
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:32:13 GMT -5
there are historians 100's of years before Hodxha was born that put Illyrians and Albanians in same boat simply look above for facts ...or did you bother to read at all Yes but that didn't phase the Albanians at all. They weren't fascinated by the Illyrian idea till papa hoxha used him. Ej Americano, mind your own business anyway.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:28:43 GMT -5
That's right all of Europe praised Skanderbeg while the Albanians weren't - didn't till hundreds of years later, almost 500 to be exact .... f**king idiot, maybe you're finally getting it how can you be so stupid and not realize that this is what I have been saying the whole time? Show some respect when discussing Skanderbeg I'll school you and anybody here.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:08:19 GMT -5
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 18:03:11 GMT -5
The ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars in the 1950s until Enver Hoxha declared the Albanians to be ‘Illyrians’. “Albanians lived within the propaganda framework of the part and of the literary, artistic and academic works, which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theaters and exhibitions”. Tito effectively relied on the equally misguided theory of ‘Slavic’ origin for ‘Yugoslavs’ as the basis for maintaining cohesion inside the Communist state - without giving the matter further consideration for political reasons. All further Illyrian studies were easily monopolized by information coming from Hoxha’s Communist myth-making propaganda machine. Bulgarian scholar Galia Valtchinova concludes: This allows him space for a deliberate search of themes known from Greek tragedy. No wonder then,that we see him playing the Illyrian card, one of the most powerful myths in the Albanian national construction. Galia Valtchinova The H-File and the making of the Homeric verse
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 17:43:50 GMT -5
You guys are the ones throwing around claims, we're just shutting you down.
You two especially really suck, you lack foundational knowledge which explains your quasi stance and position concerning "identity". lol you guys openly disgrace your own ancestors under some Serb pretext, that's how fucked in the heads you are. Rex you're more american than albanian, and adt... well you're just a cock deprived dried up cunt.
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