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Post by panagiotopoulos on Oct 13, 2008 16:26:34 GMT -5
Libo,
I am surprised you haven't spazzed out. I would have expected the total opposite from you!!! Good work. I am getting too lazy to react to stupid threads like this.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Oct 13, 2008 16:28:31 GMT -5
Although I am not quite sure why Greek1234 is getting his balls busted for telling a story. I think he is just telling what has happened. Why argue about it? He wanted to share with us and now he is being attacked by Albanians for sharing. Why? Why is it so offensive?
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Post by diurpaneus on Oct 13, 2008 16:28:50 GMT -5
ILIR is here to save the day!
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 13, 2008 16:34:45 GMT -5
Panagiotopoulos "Why is it so offensive?" ---------------------------- The bad thing is that Albanians found offensive the slaping of the 2 guys in the police station too. I was so happy when I saw 2 criminals (who tried to rob an old lady) getting arrested and slaping eachother at the end. Albanians were frustated because the criminals were Albanians. I would be very happy if a foreign country helped the Greek nation get rid in their prisons 2 Greek criminals even if they fu.ck them. I care less if they were Greeks or not. They would make me a favor. Many Albanians have a different way of thinking as it seems.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Oct 13, 2008 16:41:57 GMT -5
I am just not sure why they find it offensive to "dare tell a story about Albanians?" That they think they can tell us if we are even able to discuss them? It is puzzling. Especially this Libo character. If we were face to face or discussing something along the lines of what happened and he were to overhear EVEN IF THE STORY WERE ABSOLUTELY TRUE WHAT WOULD HIS REACTION BE IN REAL LIFE? I just don't understand. Maybe an Albo can answer this.... what harm is done by discussing this? Why would you take this so personally? I hear stuff all the time about Greeks doing crappy things but we are all individuals arent we? I cannot help or worry about everything on the earth because I will go insane. I have a feeling we are dealing with some youngsters who still think they are gonna change the world. Your not going to like everybody you come across and your not always going to like everything you hear but the least you can do is listen and try your best to be civil.
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Post by albquietman on Oct 13, 2008 17:47:03 GMT -5
Panagiotopoulos "Why is it so offensive?" ---------------------------- The bad thing is that Albanians found offensive the slaping of the 2 guys in the police station too. I was so happy when I saw 2 criminals (who tried to rob an old lady) getting arrested and slaping eachother at the end. Albanians were frustated because the criminals were Albanians. I would be very happy if a foreign country helped the Greek nation get rid in their prisons 2 Greek criminals even if they fu.ck them. I care less if they were Greeks or not. They would make me a favor. Many Albanians have a different way of thinking as it seems. I don't know why you did come up with such conclusion, but I don't think that anybody with some common sense will find offensive if some criminals are the same nationality with him/her. The problem here is not that we find offensive the story, and if the thief was albanian, but the bias, the way that the author of the thread talks about a whole nationality because of some rotten apples, and the fact that none of you guys condemned that, even you as a moderator. I would forget about someone who comes up with "true stories" like this, with no option to prove it if it's true or not, but too see you guys that believe every garbage that is posted here in our address is really sad...and I don't think that this is called different way of thinking...it's just common sense.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Oct 13, 2008 18:01:55 GMT -5
^^^^ Who said anyone believed that story? I would only believe the story if the perpetrators name was Libofsha and he was an Irish Albanian criminal working for the Irish Mafia.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Oct 13, 2008 18:04:50 GMT -5
Libofsha it was you who stole that Armenians money you rotten Irish scoundrel!!! That is why you are so angry
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Post by adolfmussolini on Oct 13, 2008 19:16:06 GMT -5
Basil not too long ago you were professing your undying love of Tosks, Libofsha is from Fieri, and though it might not be the most glamorous place in Albania it's tosk nonetheless so defend his actions like you do with Greek(insert a bunch of meaningless numbers here) And Libo you seem to have a personal vendetta against this Kanaris guy, if I'm not mistaken he's probably a lot older than u so enough with the senile old clown thing it's really disrespectful. Kanaris make me moderator now pleaseeee!! LOL ;D
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Post by libofsha on Oct 14, 2008 2:29:59 GMT -5
(Told you.... Show some respect for an older person like Kanaris even if that is not into your coulture)
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 14, 2008 4:12:35 GMT -5
Albquiteman I dont comended on the story... because I dont like the story since its all about biased guessing. But as I said, its his right to right down whatever he wants as far as he does not insult personally a forum member. The same way will be the answers to him.
For example, yesterday night 2 more Albanians were arrested. They jumbed inside a house from an open window in an isolated neighborhood in Athens, they found an old lady around 75y sleeping, widow, and they were torturing! her for many hours in order to tell them where she has her money. She didnt have more finally and they left. Thats real news and I would prefer Greek1234 to post that where not biased guessing is needed....
As it seems Albquiteman... the rotten apples became to many in the specific tree...
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Post by libofsha on Oct 14, 2008 4:50:06 GMT -5
Libofsha it was you who stole that Armenians money you rotten Irish scoundrel!!! That is why you are so angry easy there, hairy angry ape, don't blow your gasket there, what's with the homo prv messages your sending me these days? keep off my balls!
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Post by Georgios Kastriotis on Oct 14, 2008 5:33:45 GMT -5
If there are albanians who don't like living in Greece they could easily move someplace else.It's that simple. Imagine how much crime would be eliminated! Remember how safe Athens was before the 90's! Not just Athens, but all of Greece! Just open a Greek newspaper and see everyday you read about Albanians robbing Taxis, robbing banks, robbing houses, even the murdering old women for a few Euros & then we have albanians coming on this forum and badmouthing Greeks.
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Post by libofsha on Oct 14, 2008 7:28:48 GMT -5
libofsha.. really now... dont you ever try to become a politician.. .really. thanks for the career advise...guidance cauncellor. well, i don't like the way you reason, i don't like your general lack of knowledge and the way you passively aggressively manage to infuriate people with you biased and judgemental opinion, the only reason you don't like what i say is because i take the gloves off and punch you in the face with the truth, while you live in a world where you think greeks are god's chosen children and anything and everything that can be seen, touched, felt or smelt its either the property of greeks or their invention....we put up with your delusions so everyone is making concessions here. just delete the post, no consequences? where's the moral indignation, i guess he's exempt on account of being a greek, ah the double standards, the most typical of greek traits. there you go rationalising his fashist rant again, and then u ask me to see the positive side of pigeoholing an entire nation based on the actions of one individual, by the way who's defending criminals here? why do you try to change the subject? this is what you do, create diversion so we divert away from the real issue, are you going to ask me to see the positive side of wishing the death of someone's child?
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Post by Mimi on Oct 14, 2008 10:54:44 GMT -5
libofsha.. really now... dont you ever try to become a politician.. .really. PS. If I was taking sides... you, Mimi and Luma would be out of this forum a long time ago. I dont like at all the way you speak. Accepting you and your 2 friends... means.. I try heard to not take sides. By the way, if Greek1234 wrote all these stuff about wishing killings of babes etc.. just let us know to delete his post. Every Greek moderator will do that. Finally see the positive part; He may used the word "scum" to describe the criminal Albanian immigrants. I dont find it bad at all.. A criminal.. is a scum wherever he comes from. So.. why such frustration? Excuse me but what did i ever do to you? can you tell me what part of my post you dont like?
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Post by Georgios Kastriotis on Oct 14, 2008 20:20:59 GMT -5
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Post by albquietman on Oct 14, 2008 23:55:17 GMT -5
Albquiteman I dont comended on the story... because I dont like the story since its all about biased guessing. But as I said, its his right to right down whatever he wants as far as he does not insult personally a forum member. The same way will be the answers to him. For example, yesterday night 2 more Albanians were arrested. They jumbed inside a house from an open window in an isolated neighborhood in Athens, they found an old lady around 75y sleeping, widow, and they were torturing! her for many hours in order to tell them where she has her money. She didnt have more finally and they left. Thats real news and I would prefer Greek1234 to post that where not biased guessing is needed.... As it seems Albquiteman... the rotten apples became to many in the specific tree... If you keep looking only at one tree as you do all the time, of course you'll see some rotten apples there, but that doesn't mean that the other trees do not have as many...and you know that greek media has a long time obsession now with the albanian criminals. If something bad happens there, they do not even think twice to mention that the criminals were albanians, no matter if they were greeks, romanians or whatever...it happens in every country with so many immigrants, but I'm afraid in Greece is blowed out of proportions by the media. I don't know if we albanians were in your shoes would have done the same thing or not, probably yes since we are balkanians too, but I think we would had got over it after so many years... By the way, your story doesn't have a link either .
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 15, 2008 6:20:00 GMT -5
Mimi Excuse me but what did i ever do to you? can you tell me what part of my post you dont like?" --------------------------------------------------- No, your post in this thread was very nice. I didnt expect that from you.. I speak for all your other posts, especailly in the Albanian forum. where your anti-Greekness is obvious.
Rex, Albquiteman, Teuta, Julius etc etc share the same ideas with the other Albanians. But what can say someone for them? They have dignity when they go for their ideas, even if I dont agree with them. There is not that anti-Greek or better Turkalbanian hate, that is obvious on you, Libofsha, Luma or Toskalikou.
It was a general coment, not for your last post.
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 15, 2008 6:34:04 GMT -5
Albquiteman "If you keep looking only at one tree as you do all the time, of course you'll see some rotten apples there, but that doesn't mean that the other trees do not have as many...and you know that greek media has a long time obsession now with the albanian criminals. If something bad happens there, they do not even think twice to mention that the criminals were albanians, no matter if they were greeks, romanians or whatever...it happens in every country with so many immigrants, but I'm afraid in Greece is blowed out of proportions by the media." ------------------------------------- Greek media have changed a lot on this issue. Now when a killing happens they never say "Albanian"... they say an "economic imigrant". They say "Albanian" only if they take interview from the victim and the victim says "they were Albanians. I saw them I heard them". So.. they have changed a lot on this issue. At least they have tried to change. For sure... burning Greek flags inside the Greek stadiums from Albanian fans... do not help very much the images that will come out from TV sets... "I don't know if we albanians were in your shoes would have done the same thing or not, probably yes since we are balkanians too" ------------------------------------------------------------ if you were in our shoes... you would have done worst things. You would attack in the streets every Greeks speaking person. I'm sure for that. See now... so many Greek haters... and you have suffered nothing from the Greek population. On the contrary you gained. Imagine what would happen if Greeks were killing Albanian families and children inside the land of Albania day after day for many years.. I'm sure that the word anti-Greekness would have taken a tottal new meaning that would include stubbing of random Greeks etc. See Germany, England etc etc. Wherever Hellenic civilization does not exist or has never existed... barbaric actions on innocent immigrant families are an everyday phenomenon. "..but I think we would had got over it after so many years..." ------------------------------------------------------------------ We got over it.... a lot. I told, mixed marriages 15 years ago was something unbeliavable. Hanging around with school mates with non Greek nationality.. was also something unbeliavable. Things are changing.... slowly. The more Albanian criminals are getting into prison... the better is for the image of the other Albanians working in Greece. "By the way, your story doesn't have a link either" -------------------------------------------- yeah I know. I heard in the news on TV.. and I saw the old woman, while I was typing for this thread. What a coincence eh? I searched for a link in a e-paper... but it was not mentioned. I will try once more.. PS. by the way.. I'm among the ones who are looking in the tree in the good way. I may even make the blind eye on the rotten apples. I'm among the ones who have Albanian friends in real life. It is just that every time I visit this forum and I see the anti-Greekness of many Turkalbanians.... everything comes in my mind again.
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 15, 2008 6:48:08 GMT -5
albquietman that is what I was talking you about. Now they dont specify where the foreigner comes from... they just write "4 foreigner drag dealers were arrested"... bla bla bla www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_kathremote_1_14/10/2008_252139Óýëëçøç áëëïäáðþí ãéá íáñêùôéêÜ óôá Ôñßêáëá ÔÝóóåñéò áëëïäáðïýò åìðüñïõò íáñêùôéêþí óõíÝëáâáí óÞìåñá ïé Üíäñåò ôçò áóôõíïìéêÞò äéåýèõíóçò ÔñéêÜëùí óå êåíôñéêü óçìåßï ôçò ðüëçò, ìåôÜ áðü óõíôïíéóìÝíç åíÝñãåéá. ÓõãêåêñéìÝíá, ýóôåñá áðü óõëëïãÞ, äéáóôáýñùóç êáé áîéïðïßçóç ðëçñïöïñéþí, üôé «óðåßñá» áëëïäáðþí äéáêéíåß ìåãÜëåò ðïóüôçôåò íáñêùôéêþí ïõóéþí óå èåóóáëéêÝò ðüëåéò, áóôõíïìéêïß ôïõ ôìÞìáôïò áóöáëåßáò ÔñéêÜëùí, óõíåñãáæüìåíïé ìå óõíïñéáêïýò öýëáêåò ôïõ ôìÞìáôïò äßùîçò ëáèñïìåôáíÜóôåõóçò ôçò áóôõíïìéêÞò äéåýèõíóçò, áöïý åíôüðéóáí ôá ìÝëç ôçò «óðåßñáò» êáé ìåôÜ áðü äåêáÞìåñç ðáñáêïëïýèçóç, óÞìåñá êáé óå êåíôñéêü óçìåßï ôçò ðüëçò ôùí ÔñéêÜëùí ðñáãìáôïðïßçóáí óõíôïíéóìÝíç áóôõíïìéêÞ åðé÷åßñçóç. Ìå ôç âïÞèåéá áóôõíïìéêïý óêýëïõ, êáôÜöåñáí íá óõëëÜâïõí ôÝóóåñéò áëëïäáðïýò åìðüñïõò íáñêùôéêþí êáé íá êáôáó÷Ýóïõí 51 êéëÜ êáé 440 ãñáììÜñéá êÜííáâçò óõóêåõáóìÝíç óå äÝìáôá. Åðßóçò êáôáó÷Ýèçêáí äýï áõôïêßíçôá êáé ôÝóóåñá êéíçôÜ ôçëÝöùíá. Ôï Ýíá ü÷çìá ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýíôáí ùò «ðñïðïìðüò» êáé ôï Üëëï ãéá ìåôáöïñÜ ôçò íáñêùôéêÞò ïõóßáò.
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