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Post by Nikola on Oct 20, 2008 16:31:52 GMT -5
Nicolaa, I bet you think Alexander the Great was a slavic you dirty dog. No, I don't.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 20, 2008 16:39:13 GMT -5
Niko ...whats up....?
you got some action at moment ...VasiliMacedon looking for you .
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 20, 2008 16:48:52 GMT -5
Rexy.. you make it sound as something bad dude! I'm just testing to see if he belongs to Gruevski & Co. or if he is a reasonable person that we can talk. After all we're brothers! We're both Macedonians.. right?
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Post by rex362 on Oct 20, 2008 16:53:36 GMT -5
Vasil...dude ,he has already been checked out ...he has clearances I dont let just anybody come and help me pick apples After all we're brothers! We're both Macedonians.. right? yea ...all 3 of us ....
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 20, 2008 16:59:27 GMT -5
You too?!! Jannisary once told me that his grand parents were living in Thessaloniki region for a period during the Ottoman times. Do you believe he will claim too the Macedonian ID? It starts become boring. They way it goes.. in 50 years... 9 out of 10 Balkanians will be Macedonians ;D ;D Is it something like a trend? ;D ;D Ps. Really now.. I cant believe how can someone come from that country and be normal and openmind. I have to double check! Told you I used to hang around with these guys in Halkidiki 20-25 years ago. They have become Jekyl & Heide today. I bet they would kill me today if they have the chance. ..For sure I will double check!
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Post by rex362 on Oct 20, 2008 17:09:26 GMT -5
yea...I'm from Prespa ..right there on the Greek-Alb Mac border ...
trend ...?? yea its a big trend for many Greeks today ...and I'm talking about the ones that their great/grandparents originated in Modern day Turkey or asia minor and that was over 1.2 million back in 1921....
1.2 million people ...what do you think that equals in people today after birth and all that ..?
4-5 miliion maybe ..??
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 20, 2008 17:16:59 GMT -5
Of course they are many. But.... dont forget BasilMacedon No Asia minor, no refugee, grandchild of warriors in Macedonian Stuggle..... for sure... the Macedonian Sun on the porch of my house (from 1750).. its not a trend ... unless it was fashionable back then lol lol We're more than them in Thessaloniki. I told you before.... they dont have the same problem with us. They're more moderate than us on this issue, they dont care like we do. Believe me.. Fyrom prefers them than us for talkings... "yea...I'm from Prespa ..right there on the Greek-Alb Mac border ..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So.. you're Albanian. What? Dont start you too with denying your roots! Please..
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 20, 2008 17:24:09 GMT -5
PS. "great/grandparents originated in Modern day Turkey or asia minor and that was over 1.2 million back in 1921...." ------------------------------------------------------------- 1.2 million scattered ALL over Greece with the main horde going in Athens due to the better economic conditions in Athens. Later even more went there. We're more in Thessaloniki.. far more... from the 1,5 million population of Thessaloniki I bet we're more than 1 million. I will tell it again and again; Fyroms problem is not Greece in generally. They may some day succeed in their couse. Athenians dont have such a problem. But... we are the place where they will come for weekends of for the summer. We're the ones that will have contacts in the future. We're 2 hours drive away. Thessaloniki will be their future... not Athens.... and I dont see them succeeding in that.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 20, 2008 17:27:33 GMT -5
....you better check good....yea ,in Athens but that created some big domino affect
many took up the vacuum created by the mass deportation of many slavs ,vlachs and Albanians ..
..just like the mass deportation of Muslim slavs,Albs ...even Greek blooded muslims back to Turkey...they took up the vacuum of yours truly .....it was a trade off ...
So.. you're Albanian. What? Dont start you too with denying your roots! Please..
what you mean ...?
Vasili ....more Albanians existed/exist outside of modern day Albanian ...just lines made up by your sponsors in all those different treaties
cant you see the proof in todays maps .
go and reread Balkan wars 101 and see what country was born at the expense of losing 1/2 its people and way more land to others...
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Post by rex362 on Oct 20, 2008 17:49:31 GMT -5
I will tell it again and again; Fyroms problem is not Greece in generally. They may some day succeed in their couse. well...you have heard me say in the past here that its just the haunting of your Greece's past ignorances and mistakes ...and the haunting has arrived ... way back in the days the goverment/church wanted an all greek speaking greece ...slavs,vlach,albs and others ...so they preached em in greek and history ..basically ASSIMILATION ...many assimilated others went bye bye ....now the ones that went bye bye into my back yard are claiming to be those Macedonians of the ancient... (-stick with me bcs it gets confusing ...must use open mind and think out of box-) of course they are not of ancient Macedonia but also many greeks are not either ....bcs some of em are slavs or whatever assimilated (mission completed)....basically blood cousin slavs arguing with blood cousin slavs arguing over the same thing that neither is ---> Macedonian see how it becomes a clusterfock in short : on one group an assimilations was attempted and failed ,they left/kicked out and then on another group assimilation was completed and they are still there. ... now both groups are in a tug of war with an identity that neither is .....Identity Macedonian <-------------the rope for tugging-------------> Identity Greek2 dogs fighting ....one dog claims to be lion the other dog clams to be a Tiger ................................................................. Hi Nikolaa ...I got your back ..but dont forget to come and help us pick apples tomorrow .................................................................. Macedonian by geographic ----YES Macedon Ancient ------NO ...but this is where us old Albs come into play see Vasil...I hope you understand what I'm trying to say ...and I'm just a villager ...I would be dangerous if I had some serious educatiuon. sheesh ....coming to think of it ...maybe the deported Muslims from Macedonia area were maybe the only leftover remnants of Ancient Macedons.....you never know....think about that one ... but anyways ..also shame on greece for deporting greek blooded muslims
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Post by rex362 on Oct 20, 2008 17:58:49 GMT -5
^ Vasilimacedon ....you like ?
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 20, 2008 23:52:34 GMT -5
G'day, Nikos. How's it going, sport? We’ll put some shrimps on the barbie for you, courtesy of the Illyrian boards "Emperor foots the bill ;D ". I am from Serres, Macedonia, Greece, I am entopi “Native to the region” of Greek Macedonia. So how is down under like for you ? Any crocodiles biting this time of the year ? .
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Post by rusebg on Oct 21, 2008 7:02:11 GMT -5
In certain moments I feel somewhat lonely for not claiming Alexander as being Bulgarian. After all, so far he's been claimed by Greeks, fyromians, Albanians and Romanians. Sort of losing position not to join the party
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 21, 2008 7:16:37 GMT -5
so far he's been claimed by Greeks, Ruse on the claiming him thingy, he was and will always be a Greek. His forefathers stated their Greekness before Alexandros the Great came about.
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Post by rusebg on Oct 21, 2008 7:30:18 GMT -5
I am not disputing this. What I state is that it is quite an entertainment to watch how people come up with theories about him. Reminds me a little of an otherwise very remarkable revolutionary in our history who, in a book in an attempt to boost the national consciousness, claimed that Napoleon is Bulgarian, based on the name Na-Pole-On, translated like He On the Field
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 21, 2008 7:39:52 GMT -5
I am not disputing this. What I state is that it is quite an entertainment to watch how people come up with theories about him. I know, is cool Yeah seen all sorts of theories in my cybering days haha ;D Best and funniest one of all I have read about, has just got to be the theory of the "Parthini tribe" of Albania having build the Parthenon of Athens hi hi ;D
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Post by rusebg on Oct 21, 2008 7:59:52 GMT -5
;D This one is good. Btw, it is always amazing when people start claiming stuff just because of some similarities in certain names. Like in an article, I don't remember the site, one guy was ridiculing the countless theories about where Bulgars came from, by saying they came from Australia because there was some area there called Tera Bulga ;D
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Post by tsompanos on Oct 21, 2008 10:20:36 GMT -5
;D
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Post by rex362 on Oct 21, 2008 11:06:51 GMT -5
yea....great ...but thats not you ...your 4th-5th grandfathers ago came from syria or who knows where you just speak greek today
your worse than the Macedonian slavs that believe they are from ancient Macedon
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Post by besarab on Oct 21, 2008 11:23:25 GMT -5
fellow forumers al. the great was a gay consider once again-who wants to be his descendant
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