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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 8, 2007 4:21:26 GMT -5
Welcome back
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Dec 8, 2007 9:59:57 GMT -5
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 8, 2007 13:25:51 GMT -5
welcome back SA.
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Post by vinjak on Dec 8, 2007 17:24:26 GMT -5
Hello SA nice to see you back man can you please explain to me exactly what these guys were saying?Not much a lot expletives and one guy shouts "you are helping to destroy Serbs" My opinion, K Serbs have to start standing up for themselves voicing and showing there anger. These Kfor F$^%'s waltz in and out of Serbian areas spindoctoring,blaming etc while K serbs live in ghetos.....intolerable..... and the only reason KFOR and the descision makers have been allowed to get away with this is because the K Serbs have been quite they need to be a thorn in everyones Butt now, Just like any other Minority all over the world.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 8, 2007 18:51:17 GMT -5
I think your statements are based on opinions only for the most part. A few misconceptions you speak as though you represent Serbs.
"I think that even Serbs should agree that it would be a greater deal if Albanians did not get their independence than if Serbs did not get their power back."
Wrong, Serbs still care about Kosovo as much as they ever have. Just because this situation has went on as long as it has does not mean they care less.
"Whatever happens both Serbs and Albs should remain quiet. "
Don't think so. False murder numbers, accusations of genocide, being driven from there homes only to not return were Albanians were able to return. There are a lot of reasons for Serbs to be angry and they should be allowed to voice themselves.
"This time there would be more bloodshed because Albanians are much more ready."
More Serb bloodshed than Albanian? With the low number of Serbs in Kosovo, if a true Serbian army were to come I can guarantee you mainly Kosovo Albanian bloodshed would occur due to the ratio of Serbs to Albanians.
"It would be a bad mistake if Serbia declared war on a UN administrated province."
If by war you mean to reoccupy a rightfully owned area of land and provide peace and secruity to it's citizens within their legal rights than I would have to disagree. It's a great idea.
"It is legally within Serbian boarders but you have to remember Serbia has no control or authority over it."
You mean no control over it due to illegal means? If you said it like that I would agree.
"People have been turned very nationalistic on both sides and now we're in a very dangerous position."
Last I checked Kosovo was a part of Serbia so being nationalistic for Serbs sounds right. What nation do Kosovo Albanians belong to? Wouldn't they be anti-Nationalistic?
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Post by vinjak on Dec 8, 2007 18:54:57 GMT -5
I wasnt hinting about War I was saying that K Serbs should be making very loud protests now and in the future they should start demanding everything even chewing gum (sik) Anything that even remotley seems to be racist they need to speak up and use the law to there advantage.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Dec 9, 2007 5:06:31 GMT -5
Zao mi je ali morao sam da obrisem Superalbanca jer ima UCK u avataru. Jos od proslog foruma je to problem i nista nije preduzeo.
SUPERALBANIAN please remove your avatar when posting on Serbian forum. Thank you in advance
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Post by Fender on Dec 9, 2007 8:52:04 GMT -5
How do you remove t? for a single post? All I am saying is Serbs will be making a big mistake if they do decide to attack. I certainly would not like to be ruled under the types of Koshtunica.... He is a true cetnik and if he had the chance he would have done worse than milosovic to anyone who is not Serbian within " serbian boarders". Why does it only have to be tadic saying there will be no war? How can we trust Serbia if theyre declaring war on us even before the NATO have gone?! If Serbia is willing to demonstrate it will respect its minorities rights.... why is there only ONE Albanian deputy in the Serbian government. Why is Serbia being very undemocratic and threatning countries larger than its size and power who accept Kosovo. Serbia will be a very isolated country if Kosovo is granted independence by all these countries. Even Spain has said it would not stop independence. Serbia had 8 years to demonstrate change within their army, police and government. They have not managed that and no one in Kosovo would ever trust the Serbia again. We cannot be under Serbian rule or any rule.... Isn't it obvious by now. A declaration of Independance, is an act of war.. I still don't understand how you don't get it?
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Post by Pejoni on Dec 9, 2007 11:18:04 GMT -5
^^ Who Fender, against NATO? Sure go ahead, we know how it ended last time. I suggest you dont make the same mistake again.
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Dec 9, 2007 15:34:54 GMT -5
If war was begin to start... Serbia would lose... don't think for one minute NATO will NOT fight. Nato WILL fight because it controls Kosovo and Serbian army going into Kosovo will be seen as an invasion. Serbia will lose a war. Don't do it is my advice to you guys.
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Post by vinjak on Dec 9, 2007 17:09:34 GMT -5
The only way a War would start, would be if there was an Albanian incursion in the Serb populated North. At which time the Serbian military would have all rights to step in and protect the Serbian population and to prevent any spillage into Serbia proper.
That is the darkest scenario and I can garantee you that KFOR would not let that happen, that is why there is a build up of units in the north not to prevent Serbs from not recognizing Kosovo authoriteis but to stop any incursions by the Albanians.
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Post by Fender on Dec 9, 2007 17:25:14 GMT -5
^^ Who Fender, against NATO? Sure go ahead, we know how it ended last time. I suggest you dont make the same mistake again. NATO are under the constraints of 1244. NATO can not allow independance to occur.
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Dec 9, 2007 18:10:06 GMT -5
Nato does not have a mandate to allow or disallow independence. The true decider is the UN fender.
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Post by Fender on Dec 9, 2007 20:10:56 GMT -5
Nato does not have a mandate to allow or disallow independence. The true decider is the UN fender. Thats right, read resolution 1244, it spells it out clearly.
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Post by Beach Police on Dec 9, 2007 21:25:48 GMT -5
Only UN authorized to resolve Kosovo problem – Lavrov
09.12.2007 NICOSIA, December 9 (Itar-Tass) -- Any unilateral steps in the Kosovo settlement would contradict resolution 1244 of the UN Security Council and international laws, and it is very dangerous to undermine them, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Sunday.
“Only the UN Security Council is authorized to make a decision about Kosovo,” he said.
Russia hopes that Belgrade and Pristina will have additional time to reach accord and settle the problem, he said.
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