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Post by highduke on Dec 22, 2007 17:13:16 GMT -5
www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/163141.html Serbian Premier Kostunica opposes EU accession over Kosovo Posted : Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:09:02 GMT Author : DPA Category : Europe (World) The situation puts the pro-Western leader of the Democratic Party (DS), Serbian President Boris Tadic, in a difficult situation ahead of his bid for another term on January 20 and the run-off two weeks later.
Tadic is facing off with the ultra-nationalist Serbian Radical Party (SRS) leader, Tomislav Nikolic, and may lose without support from Kostunica.
But Kostunica would not support him unless he effectively turned his back on the West over US and EU support of independence for Kosovo. In that case, the DSS could either boycott presidential polls or directly back Nikolic.
Such a move would bring down the uneasy government coalition, which also includes the small pro-Western and reformist G17 Plus party, only a year after the last parliamentary election.
A break-up of the government coalition could trigger new elections, or it could bring a Kostunica-led government with the SRS and the Socialist Party of Serbia, both of which ruled in the Slobodan Milosevic era.
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Post by highduke on Dec 22, 2007 17:50:50 GMT -5
By the way, check out this Irish guy who pleads for us Serbs:
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 22, 2007 20:47:04 GMT -5
This Irish guy is speaking with truthful words and opens up some interesting observations. The Serbian people are people labeled with the Milosevic regime and made to pay (However places like Iraq and it's people are exempt from Saddam's actions, how fair is that mentality) , with the illegitimate taking of Kosovo. If Kosovo breaks free so do all the other pieces of the world with any set majority in it's respective region.
Like i've mentioned before, China should be broken up into 20 pieces if this is allowed to happen. Funny thing is politicians in favor of independence are claiming, "This is a special case". No it's a violation of international laws, there's no Astrix stating that any circumstances related to Kosovo Albanian's entitles them to independence.
Just like my signature states. The US's interference in the Kosovo situations are not from a humanitarian viewpoint but rather that viewpoint was used as a way for the US to bring down the power, it saw it could not penetrate , thus alienating and restricting Serbia.
Any country that accepts Kosovo's independence is a coward. Because they did not do the right thing, they did what was best for there countries pockets and political leverage in regards to the US. Like the guy in the video states, everyone who will be or can be affected by this independence in one way or another really needs to understand the situation and reason with the knowledge that the stealing of Kosovo could change the world as we know it.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 22, 2007 20:55:57 GMT -5
I also want to add, isn't it interesting that a country who propagates multicultural integration (US) is subjecting segregation between Serbs and Albanian's if independence is allowed. Once again, more evidence to show that the US is after their own agenda. In a way Serbians and Albanians have screwed themselves. Albanian's have pretty much allowed the US government indirectly control over all it has via resources, etc. Same with Serbia who has given much power and incentives for Russia's help, over to Russia.
I still think self autonomy of Kosovo in Serbia was the best option for both sides. Instead of mending the wounds, if independence happens, it will make relations worse than ever.
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Post by highduke on Dec 22, 2007 21:04:34 GMT -5
The heart of the matter is that the Albanians are descendants of Ottoman era colonists who have retained the same mentality toward Serbs as they had for the entire duration of the Ottoman period.
Hence, they must be expelled if they will not pledge loyalty to the Serbs state.
That is the only solution.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 22, 2007 21:45:12 GMT -5
I understand your viewpoint. I just don't see how this can come about. If Serbia were to regain control of Kosovo, what do you do with 2 million people after everything that has happened. Seriously, I believe you re-institute the police, find and expel any possible terrorists threats that could occur, make it safe for all who life there. Make it safe and peaceful for all, Kosovo Serbs remigrate back into the territory. Serbs and Albanians learn to live together.
If this doesn't happen than the hatred continues. I remember watching videos of Serbs and Albanians who were friends, Serbs leaving and they still maintain contact and there friendship via communication (ie telephone, email, etc). The world isn't black and white. After all that has happened in Kosovo and Serbia, there needs to be a compromise somewhere in the grey area.
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Post by highduke on Dec 22, 2007 21:50:53 GMT -5
Forget friendship with Albanians. They have no honour because they descend from colonists and traitors. They are genetically deffective and are capable of deciet and opportunism in a way that is difficult for a Serb to understand. They are the essence of evil. Sometimes things are black and white and you have to be brave to state it.
It is not difficult to expell 2 000 000 people if Russia is going to back us. And she will. Eventually. We have to want it.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 23, 2007 5:24:53 GMT -5
"It is not difficult to expell 2 000 000 people if Russia is going to back us. And she will. Eventually."
I believe this will not happen, this is genocide. Imagine the west, then they would turn around and say see we were right all along, serbs are genocidial maniacs.
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Post by Pejoni on Dec 23, 2007 10:57:06 GMT -5
Forget friendship with Albanians. They have no honour because they descend from colonists and traitors. They are genetically deffective and are capable of deciet and opportunism in a way that is difficult for a Serb to understand. They are the essence of evil. Sometimes things are black and white and you have to be brave to state it. It is not difficult to expell 2 000 000 people if Russia is going to back us. And she will. Eventually. We have to want it. Im surprised AAdmin havent banned your sorry *** yet, this is enough for getting banned permantly
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Post by srbobran on Dec 23, 2007 14:15:37 GMT -5
Who cares what the West has to say? Throughout our history, they have been our biggest obstacle to achieving a strong Serbian state. Serbs have been far too tolerant (yes, thats right, we are by far the most multicultural state on the Balkans and have had to pay the price) and while some ethnicities have beneficial to Serbia (Bulgarians and Vojvodina Hungarians) we need to rid ourselves of minorities that detract from the strength of our state and create an ethnically cohesive state.
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Post by radovic on Dec 23, 2007 14:20:30 GMT -5
"It is not difficult to expell 2 000 000 people if Russia is going to back us. And she will. Eventually." I believe this will not happen, this is genocide. Imagine the west, then they would turn around and say see we were right all along, serbs are genocidial maniacs. Who cares about the west. The west are genocidal maniacs. Look at the Holocaust, it was done by Germany a western state. Look at the Hutsi-Tutsi conflict it is basically due to Belgian policies in Rwanda. Look at Iraq reports say that U.S. sanctions killed 1.5 million Iraqi's (more then 1/3rd were children under the age of 5) and Albright claimed on tv that the "price was worth it", ior look at Iraq now reports say between 500,000-2 million Iraqi's have died since the U.S. invasion (the U.S. it's self put's the lowest figures at 300,000).
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 23, 2007 14:41:14 GMT -5
Because the west allowed you to eat up territories that were you did not inhabit, and thus not rightfully yours. Now things are failing for you, boo hoo. Next time find some constraints for yourself. I know, it may be hard, your a Serb after all. As for the rest of you agreeing with Highduke: it proves every Albanian point for independence, so long as maniacs like you guys still exist, they could never be safe within your borders. Thank heavens for the US. And as for you highduke: whats wrong? You seem more aggressive then usual. Is something making you tense? Is something worrying you?
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Post by vinjak on Dec 23, 2007 16:04:45 GMT -5
Well here is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. How can you Albs even dare to critisise Highduke or any one else with their opinion ? all one needs to do is have a read of some of the BullS&^ you people write on the Kosovo/Albanian forum about Serbs or Serbia and you come here and act out a moral freakin crusade.
I have read many times things that are highly offensive to us, on your freakin sites yet it is allowed to stand...but for some reason here it is not allowed....well think again.
Get lost.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 23, 2007 16:21:04 GMT -5
When have I ever said that he should be banned?
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Post by highduke on Dec 23, 2007 17:06:51 GMT -5
There is a difference:
Albanians descend from Ottoman-era colonists who expelled the Serb majority from Kosovo 300 years ago. Thus, their expulsion of the Serbs is a crime.
When Serbs expel Sipcine, they are expelling the descendants of Ottoma-era colonists, who have been perpetuating Serbophobia since Ottoman times until today.
The WEST may label us nationalist maniacs but they won't be able to do anything like what they did in the 90s. Why else did Putin make Time's MAN OF THE YEAR.
It's time to take back what's ours:
- all of Kosovo, at the expense of expelling the Albanian ancestral immigrants.
- all of ex-YU (except for Slovenija & 5 regions of CRO directly bordering Slovenia) including re-assimilating the people living there back into the Serb ethnic corpus that their ancestots belonged to in Medieval Times.
We tried living neighbourly for much of the 20th century. It's time to be less practical and more daring. That means expulsion and re-assimilation.
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Post by Mimi on Dec 24, 2007 11:53:48 GMT -5
Yeah like we are stupid enough to be friends and work with you within your borders dream on and pretend like nothing has ever happened and take our land once again. now we have been given us the second chance to take our land back and we are gonna take it, we dont care how much you bark over it everyone knows its dangerous for us to live together, we cant stand each other no understanding, no loyalty what so ever, we simply cant stand each other something that wont go away untill we have our justice and take what belongs to us what we have given our life for.
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Post by highduke on Dec 24, 2007 14:05:48 GMT -5
It's not your land, Mimi.
You stole it in Ottoman times by expelling the Serb majority.
YOU ARE THE THIEVES & COLONISTS. NOT US.
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Post by cando4u on Dec 24, 2007 14:41:18 GMT -5
<YOU ARE THE THIEVES & COLONISTS. NOT US>
Just amazing , you repeat that in your brain 50,000 times everyday and you make it seem true to yourself. Does that work for all Serbs?
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 25, 2007 14:48:42 GMT -5
Does it work for all Albanians as well? Last I checked Kosovo was in Serbia. If this weren't true Kosovo would be independent. Eight years now and nothing. That's the reality of it.
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Post by vinjak on Dec 25, 2007 16:07:11 GMT -5
What everyone needs to realise is that although the Albanians might take Kosovo from Serbia, and we will be forced to live with it, but it will never be there's, one day it will be taken back.
World events change very quickly, and while all the cards are in the Albanian hands now, it wont be that way forever.
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