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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 7, 2008 16:06:53 GMT -5
Basil, I understand Balkan police and have had experiences with them. They generally tend to be hot-headed and eager to prove their position above yours. They are also often pretty stupid... no offense to cops. Buts thats even more reason not to try and cross them. What this cop did was wrong, horribly wrong. But the kid should have been smarter than to throw rocks at a cop car... Nobody I know would have not known that that was stupid at 15.
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 7, 2008 16:15:20 GMT -5
look at these destructions...its sad that constitutional states are obviously unable to react adequately in such events. With adequate I mean here military tanks input.
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Post by tsompanos on Dec 7, 2008 16:33:08 GMT -5
^ i couldnt agree more i couldnt care less if those punks died
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Post by Duke John on Dec 7, 2008 17:07:05 GMT -5
Rest in peace to that little fella, there seems to be serious lack of training of the police in this kind of situation, pulling a gun is the last option for the police, not even warning shots to the air before he shot this kid? hope the justice will handle that policeman also along with rioters.
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Post by Kassandros on Dec 7, 2008 17:14:45 GMT -5
Kastorianos "I even didnt think of doing sth like that...because i have always had respect for the police." ---------------------------------------------------------------- You had respect because it was the German police. The Greek police are methismenoi kolovlaxoi me tromera complex katoterotitas pou mporoun na kanoun paranomo kai ena normal anthropo. "thats the way I was educated by my parents" ---------------------------------------------------------- Yeah.. ok ok... but you know how it is when you're with a gang of friends and you have to proove something to them... that is how boys are usually.. "you dont know the exact circumstances to say why he shot.....your version can but has not to be the right one." ---------------------------------------------------- I stated the facts in the beggining. that is what whitnesses say... "he turned back and he shoot the 15 years old from 25 m distance wihtout having any threat for his life". That does not sound good for me.. Tsompanos "Vasilli kala 15 xronon esi den ikseres ti tha ginotan ama petouses petres stous mpatsous?mpanos" ---------------------------------------------------------- Nai.. alla afti itan i parea mou. Eprepe na apodeixoume oti eimaste mages. Malakies tis ilikias... ti na kanoume...? Teteia itan ekeina ta xronia... Gardelis kai Mihalakopoulos.. Eixa kai haiti! lol lol
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Post by Kassandros on Dec 7, 2008 17:22:25 GMT -5
Rinia "Basil, I understand Balkan police and have had experiences with them. They generally tend to be hot-headed and eager to prove their position above yours. They are also often pretty stupid... no offense to cops. Buts thats even more reason not to try and cross them. What this cop did was wrong, horribly wrong. But the kid should have been smarter than to throw rocks at a cop car... Nobody I know would have not known that that was stupid at 15." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with you. But again.... you might know one being so stupid.. And even if someone is so stupid at his 15.... he does not deserves death. Its so cruel. Come on... its death! Think of his parents! They had a son... and now they dont have a son because he was... stupid?! Is this a reason for not having a child anymore??!
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Post by Kassandros on Dec 7, 2008 17:28:39 GMT -5
Greekscandal "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdb3D-wJ3jg&eurl=http: " -------------------------------------------------------------------------- tsompanos, Rex and Kastor are there?! Isnt it funny to meet guys you know in a different forum? Lets go all together and promote Illyrian forum.. !!
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 7, 2008 17:40:22 GMT -5
^ i couldnt agree more i couldnt care less if those punks died Developments of anarchists shows an inherent flaw in the system. Simply killing people who have obviously been led astray is not the answer. You have to address the problem and find out where this is coming from... otherwise what your proposing will only reactivate what your guys overthrew on that fateful Nov. 17th... Militarism generally does the opposite of improving a situation....
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Post by Kassandros on Dec 7, 2008 17:40:34 GMT -5
PS.... and by the way. I dont like anarchists too. If the age of the victim was different... my beliefs on this issue might be different.
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 7, 2008 17:52:54 GMT -5
not all. a clear yes. What else shall the answer be? It was the bad Greek police that is looking for 15 year old youths in order to shoot them? The anwer lies most probably inbetween.
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Post by Kassandros on Dec 7, 2008 18:04:56 GMT -5
Kastorianos "not all" -------------- so.. lets shoot the ones who are and were not like you.
Kastorianos "a clear yes. What else shall the answer be? It was the bad Greek police that is looking for 15 year old youths in order to shoot them? The anwer lies most probably inbetween." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- the answer might be... because that specifi cop was.... a matcho guy..?. I have seen many matcho guys in the police force. Why not him too?
Kastoriane.. dont be so cruel with human life. Dont forget... there is always the possibility to have a boy... to love that boy.... and somebody with big muscles with small brain and a big gun... take the life of that boy. Dont be cruel... life is a weird thing...
To reming you one more "stupid" act from an older person. Tasos Solomou in Cyprous decided to take down the Turkish flag from the Turkish sector. Turkish soldiers were everywhere. Somebody shoot him in the neck. Without any real reason... except the fact he touched the flag.
What do you say for that? Is this human life deserved to be lost for a piece of cotton? 2 children without a father for the rest of their lives... because their father acted in a "stupid" way... is a reason for a loss of a human life?... and you know... he was not 15.
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 7, 2008 18:06:10 GMT -5
We are talking about anarchists here...no ordinary demonstrating people...anarchists make protests...in order to make protests...they destroy...in order to destroy....and you are talking about addressing the problem...they are the problem.
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 7, 2008 18:12:53 GMT -5
Yet we cant say what the cop was like...but about the boy we can say with pretty much security that he was stupid yes. Absolutely.
Im not. I say the cop shall get an adequate punishment.
Yes I know the story. He acted stupidly...clearly...I would never have done it. For what? A flag? If I was a father...I would never have risked my life for a piece of cloth. What he did was not in order to safe human lifes...or sth...would you have done it? Honestly..
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Post by Kassandros on Dec 7, 2008 18:22:57 GMT -5
It is not a matter of what I or You would have done. You never know how you react in a certain condition. Now that I'm sitting in front of my PC... I say No. But if I was there... full of tence... facing the ones who have my land... full of pattion... you never know. The question is.... does he deserves to die for that?!
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Post by Kastorianos on Dec 7, 2008 18:26:05 GMT -5
Surely not. I also didnt say the youth deserved to die. I already said the price he paid was too high...
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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 7, 2008 18:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 7, 2008 19:06:04 GMT -5
Today,there were riots in every greek city!The protesters,mostly students -anarchists and leftists-destroy banks and shops,attack the police and burn cars!The public opinion is very disturbed and this incident will monopolise the attention of everybody for many more days here in Greece...Here,see some pics and videos... troktiko.blogspot.com/
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 7, 2008 19:17:54 GMT -5
the assasination of this 15 y.o boy has caused a severe social crisis...
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 7, 2008 19:19:45 GMT -5
I want to know what will happen in Israel,Pakistan,Albania,Turkey,Italy,America if a youth throw rocks at a cop?
Honest well thought out answers please.
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Post by raynon on Dec 7, 2008 19:35:29 GMT -5
"Israel,Pakistan,Albania,Turkey,"
These nations aren't part of the EU, yours is.
Bottom line, this event shows how weak the greek police are, which reflects the weak state of the greek authorities/govt.
If the govt/police has the respect and support of the people, children would not be picking up anti-- police/govt attitudes and opinions of these authorities. All children pick up their early attitudes towards authorities from their homes. Not the streets. The Streets become just a reflection of the homes these children were raised in.
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