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Post by radovic on Dec 12, 2008 10:42:12 GMT -5
Hungarians don’t need autonomy in Serbia, FM December 11, 2008 – 11:48 am Hungarian Foreign Minister Kinga Goncz has said that it is not realistic to speak about any kind of territorial autonomy for the Hungarians in Vojvodina and that, in the opinion of the Hungarian government, it would be far better to fight for Serbia’s visa liberalisation than to raise the issue of dual citizenship for the members of the Hungarian ethnic minority in Serbia. I do not think it is realistic to discuss the possibility of territorial autonomy for the Vojvodina Hungarians, she said.
On the one hand, we know that there are not so many Hungarians in Vojvodina and that they represent just one of a number of ethnic minorities in this province, and on the other, the fact is that the Hungarians do not live in some compact region where they could, possibly, create some kind of territorial autonomy which would gather around all Hungarians and which could be seceded from the rest of Vojvodina, she explained in an interview for the Novi Sad daily Dnevnik published on Thursday.
Goncz assessed that the Hungarians’ participation in all levels of Serbia’s executive authority was a very good thing, even the more so since the Serb minority was very active in Hungary. In this way, as she put it, the minorities of both countries are no longer a source of problems, but rather become a factor of stability and progress.
According to the Hungarian foreign minister, it would be a lot better for the Vojvodina Hungarians to try to improve their own position, as well as the position of Vojvodina in Serbia, by taking an active part in the political life. Dual citizenship is a very sensitive issue for the EU, because the stand of Brussels is to accept as its members the very states and their citizens, and not the people and the members of those nations that live outside their mother countries, Goncz explained. This is why I think it is not realistic to talk about dual citizenship and that it is a lot better to work as much as possible on the visa liberalization and Serbia’s accession into the EU, the Hungarian foreign minister concluded.
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Post by highduke on Dec 12, 2008 11:39:01 GMT -5
This is what happens when Russia supplies the EU with half its energy: member countries wanting better energy prices have to maintain friendly relations with Russia's #1 regional ally.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 12, 2008 11:44:17 GMT -5
hd if that russian -serbian deal goes through ...I hope they confiscate your plantation for the pipe and also blow your 20 k on lawyer fees trying to fight for it back .
maybe then you would let me put an ad on your website for fair price .
ehhehe
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Post by highduke on Dec 12, 2008 12:26:50 GMT -5
Ok
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Post by vinjak on Dec 12, 2008 16:54:20 GMT -5
Bravo That Hungarian political party that has lied through its teeth about descrimination etc etc have just had those teeth knocked out.
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 12, 2008 17:22:33 GMT -5
The opinion of Magyars is irrelevant.
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Post by bog on Dec 12, 2008 17:32:35 GMT -5
Hungarians need FREEDOM
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 12, 2008 18:47:35 GMT -5
They have freedom... in Hungary if nowhere else.
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Post by tito on Dec 13, 2008 0:15:22 GMT -5
The opinion of Magyars is irrelevant. Correct! Just like in Montenegro it will be the "veliki srbi" who will lead the movement for independence. Hungarians and other minorities will just follow since they are loyal to Vojvodina and not to the regime in Belgrade that has been stealing everyone’s money for decades now.
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 13, 2008 2:50:22 GMT -5
What the hell have you been sucking on?
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Post by tito on Dec 13, 2008 3:37:29 GMT -5
Well you did claim that the Montenegrins where "more Serbs then all other Serbs" before they abandoned the sinking ship named Serbia. It’s the same with Vojvodina now.
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 13, 2008 4:34:58 GMT -5
Well you did claim that the Montenegrins where "more Serbs then all other Serbs" before they abandoned the sinking ship named Serbia. It’s the same with Vojvodina now. Funny, I thought they "abandoned the sinking ship" called "Serbia and Montenegro" which was nothing but a foreign creation established to destroy what was left of Yugoslavia. But if you honestly think that "Vojvodina" will split from the "Republic of Serbia" then you are absolutely retarded.
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Post by tito on Dec 13, 2008 4:42:14 GMT -5
if you honestly think that "Vojvodina" will split from the "Republic of Serbia" then you are absolutely retarded. That is exactly the same thing that Serbs said about Montenegro’s independence over and over again until it was too late. In fact you said the same thing about Kosovo too. Don’t you realize that the problem wont go away just because you deny it’s existence over and over again??
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 13, 2008 5:02:08 GMT -5
That is exactly the same thing that Serbs said about Montenegro’s independence over and over again until it was to late. In fact you said the same thing about Kosovo too. Don’t you realize that the problem wont go away just because you deny it’s existence over and over again?? Chance of referendum in Vojvodina: 0%. Since its illegal and the vast majority of people living in Vojvodina are loyal to Belgrade and no Serbian politician will try and hold a referendum lest they lose all popular standing. Now get lost.
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Post by tito on Dec 13, 2008 5:04:24 GMT -5
Whatever, 10 years from now when Vojvodina has become an independent state heading towards EU and Nato membership most Serbians will probably claim that it was all some western conspiracy and by doing that ignore the oncoming independence of the Democratic republic of Belgrade just like you kept ignoring everything that lead to Kosova’s, Montenegro’s, Macedon’s, Bosnia’s, Croatia’s and Slovenia’s independence. You choose to be one step behind all the time because you refuse to change your backwards mentality which in the end costs you more then anyone else.
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 13, 2008 5:12:51 GMT -5
Whatever, 10 years from now when Vojvodina has become an independent state heading towards EU and Nato membership most Serbians will probably claim that it was all some western conspiracy and by doing that ignore the oncoming independence of the Democratic republic of Belgrade just like you kept ignoring everything that lead to Kosova’s, Montenegro’s, Macedon’s, Bosnia’s, Croatia’s and Slovenia’s independence. You choose to be one step behind all the time because you refuse to change your backwards mentality which in the end costs you more then anyone else. I hope every Serb here reads this guy's post so they can comprehend the mentality of our neighbours. If this alone isn't a good reason to start selling guns to every Serb in the Balkans at a discount price, I don't know what is. We need to defend ourselves from idiots/extremists/Serbophobes like him or its 1941/1991 all over again.
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Post by tito on Dec 13, 2008 5:25:07 GMT -5
Whatever, 10 years from now when Vojvodina has become an independent state heading towards EU and Nato membership most Serbians will probably claim that it was all some western conspiracy and by doing that ignore the oncoming independence of the Democratic republic of Belgrade just like you kept ignoring everything that lead to Kosova’s, Montenegro’s, Macedon’s, Bosnia’s, Croatia’s and Slovenia’s independence. You choose to be one step behind all the time because you refuse to change your backwards mentality which in the end costs you more then anyone else. I hope every Serb here reads this guy's post so they can comprehend the mentality of our neighbours. If this alone isn't a good reason to start selling guns to every Serb in the Balkans at a discount price, I don't know what is. We need to defend ourselves from idiots/extremists/Serbophobes like him or its 1941/1991 all over again. Don’t get all Serbish with me now, I’m just pointing out the obvious. No one has any interest in attacking Serbia with Vojvodina, you are doing all of this to yourselves by refusing to open you eyes.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Dec 13, 2008 5:46:20 GMT -5
Whatever, 10 years from now when Vojvodina has become an independent state heading towards EU and Nato membership most Serbians will probably claim that it was all some western conspiracy and by doing that ignore the oncoming independence of the Democratic republic of Belgrade just like you kept ignoring everything that lead to Kosova’s, Montenegro’s, Macedon’s, Bosnia’s, Croatia’s and Slovenia’s independence. You choose to be one step behind all the time because you refuse to change your backwards mentality which in the end costs you more then anyone else. Sve to nakon sto Republika Srpska postane samostalna.
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Post by bog on Dec 13, 2008 6:02:21 GMT -5
Hungarians will be free once again!
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Post by bog on Dec 13, 2008 6:03:07 GMT -5
Whatever, 10 years from now when Vojvodina has become an independent state heading towards EU and Nato membership most Serbians will probably claim that it was all some western conspiracy and by doing that ignore the oncoming independence of the Democratic republic of Belgrade just like you kept ignoring everything that lead to Kosova’s, Montenegro’s, Macedon’s, Bosnia’s, Croatia’s and Slovenia’s independence. You choose to be one step behind all the time because you refuse to change your backwards mentality which in the end costs you more then anyone else. Sve to nakon sto Republika Srpska postane samostalna. Then we'lll have to do a counter-genocide
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