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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Dec 16, 2008 20:51:40 GMT -5
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7786790.stmThree Algerian-born former inmates of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp have returned to their adopted homeland of Bosnia. They had been held without charge for seven years on suspicion of plotting to attack the US embassy in Sarajevo. But last month a US judge ordered their release - the first such decision since the Supreme Court ruled inmates could challenge their detention. Some 250 detainees remain at Guantanamo Bay, suspected of links to terrorism. The men - Mustafa Ait Idir, Mohamed Nechla and Hadj Boudella - were among six Algerians arrested in Bosnia in the weeks following the 11 September 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. They were transferred to the US camp at Guantanamo Bay in southern Cuba in January 2002 and held as "unlawful enemy combatants". Judicial order The men were initially accused of plotting to bomb the US embassy in Sarajevo, but these allegations were dropped. US authorities also accused the men of planning to go to Afghanistan to link up with Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters. But last month, a US judge ruled that the government had failed to make a case for holding five of the six men. They brought the case following a decision in June by the US Supreme Court to allow detainees to challenge their imprisonment in civilian courts. Many of the Guantanamo inmates are fighting their detention in court Three of the men have been flown to Sarajevo. They will be released from protective custody once their identities are confirmed, a lawyer for the men said. It is not clear when the other two men, who do not hold Bosnian citizenship, will be released. About 250 detainees accused of terrorism or links to al-Qaeda remain in the controversial detention camp in Cuba. Many of them are now in the process of challenging their detention. US President-elect Barack Obama has promised to close down Guantanamo Bay once he takes office in January.
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Post by tyson on Dec 16, 2008 21:14:34 GMT -5
Mustafa Ait Idir, Mohamed Nechla and Hadj Boudella ............. dont let these wahabi arab dogs come back to BiH. send them back to algeria.
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Post by kapetan on Dec 16, 2008 22:53:54 GMT -5
lol you said arab like that in itself is wrong
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Post by theblackswans on Dec 17, 2008 0:32:31 GMT -5
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7786790.stmThree Algerian-born former inmates of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp have returned to their adopted homeland of Bosnia. They had been held without charge for seven years on suspicion of plotting to attack the US embassy in Sarajevo. But last month a US judge ordered their release - the first such decision since the Supreme Court ruled inmates could challenge their detention. Some 250 detainees remain at Guantanamo Bay, suspected of links to terrorism. The men - Mustafa Ait Idir, Mohamed Nechla and Hadj Boudella - were among six Algerians arrested in Bosnia in the weeks following the 11 September 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. They were transferred to the US camp at Guantanamo Bay in southern Cuba in January 2002 and held as "unlawful enemy combatants". Judicial order The men were initially accused of plotting to bomb the US embassy in Sarajevo, but these allegations were dropped. US authorities also accused the men of planning to go to Afghanistan to link up with Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters. But last month, a US judge ruled that the government had failed to make a case for holding five of the six men. They brought the case following a decision in June by the US Supreme Court to allow detainees to challenge their imprisonment in civilian courts. Many of the Guantanamo inmates are fighting their detention in court Three of the men have been flown to Sarajevo. They will be released from protective custody once their identities are confirmed, a lawyer for the men said. It is not clear when the other two men, who do not hold Bosnian citizenship, will be released. About 250 detainees accused of terrorism or links to al-Qaeda remain in the controversial detention camp in Cuba. Many of them are now in the process of challenging their detention. US President-elect Barack Obama has promised to close down Guantanamo Bay once he takes office in January. It's fucking casper the ghost is back! Fuck them and Fuck bush.
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Post by tyson on Dec 17, 2008 1:03:20 GMT -5
lol you said arab like that in itself is wrong nah, i dont have anything against arabs as a peoples. not even the wahabis, but just those wahabi arabs who are and or have came to bosnia, and the balkans in general. they have no place there in our backyard. i could give a flying fukk if these arab wahabis wanna go around in the desert chopping each others heads off, and genetal mutilating their women in algeria or saudi arabia, or any of those countries. just stay the hell out of our backyard. ps. i have lebanese friends. some christian but musly muslims, and they are the coolest people, and they're all moderate muslims. some of them wear the hijab, which is completely cool, nothin wrong with that. their families are hardcore lebanese nationalists, and i can relate to their patriotism for their country. the shiia ones love hassan nasrallah & hizbollah.
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Post by SKORIC on Dec 17, 2008 1:09:43 GMT -5
lol even my christian Leb friends like hezbolla. Its not about religion to them but land and isreal i think.
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Post by kapetan on Dec 17, 2008 1:25:49 GMT -5
I know tyson, just breaking teh ballz a little beet!
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Post by tyson on Dec 17, 2008 1:27:56 GMT -5
^^ thats ok lol even my christian Leb friends like hezbolla. Its not about religion to them but land and isreal i think. some do, because some christian factions in lebanon support hizbollah, and other christian faction support rafik harriri's party who are sunni muslims. nearly all lebanese sunni muslims dont like hizbollah tho, and alot of them hate them. the recent civil conflict in lebanon a couple years ago was between hizbollah, and the government which the sunni muslims support. the government hates hizbollah, and tried to force the hizbollah to unarm themselves, so that was a declarartion of war against the government, and the hizbollah who control the south of lebanon, maintained their controll, and then they started taking control of all the shiia districts in beirut from the government, then the hizbollah started taking control of the sunni districts, and then they were about to take the whole city under hizbollah control, but the government surrendered, and agreed to not try to disarm the hizbollah, and just generally leave them alone, so the leaders of hizbollah agreed to that, and in turn the hizbollah gave back control of beirut to the government. the government was gettin their asses kicked by hizbollah, lol.
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Post by markosijekira on Dec 17, 2008 2:15:58 GMT -5
I sympathies with the Hezbollah, at least in the sense that the Lebanese civil war and the things that lead up to it was a power struggle between the Christians and the Sunnis, and the Shi’as who had no say in politics at that time were caught in the middle of this struggle and suffered accordingly. Eventually they had enough and decided to fight for their rights, and Hezbollah was born. Read some very good books on the Lebanon Civil war.
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Post by tyson on Dec 17, 2008 2:47:08 GMT -5
^^ are you talking about the civil war that was in the 80's? coz i was talking about what happened a couple years ago. what happened a couple years ago i wouldnt call it a full fledged war, but what happened in the 80's was. it was very bloody.
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Post by vinjak on Dec 17, 2008 3:07:02 GMT -5
Mustafa Ait Idir, Mohamed Nechla and Hadj Boudella Nice Bosnian Names dont you think.............U picku materinu.
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Post by markosijekira on Dec 17, 2008 3:16:47 GMT -5
^^ are you talking about the civil war that was in the 80's? coz i was talking about what happened a couple years ago. what happened a couple years ago i wouldnt call it a full fledged war, but what happened in the 80's was. it was very bloody. Yeah i was referring to the 80's war which laid the ground work for all we see there today. The Shi'as were treated like dirt for years in Lebanon, and with the Christians and Sunnis at each others throats all the time they took the chance they saw, and now the way it looks they will only grow more powerful, after all they have the highest birth rate, and seem much more dedicated to their objectives. Forcing the Syrian army out was not a good move on the west's part, very naive, because they took out the status qo that was in place, now the balance is completely in Hezbollah favor.
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Post by tito on Dec 17, 2008 4:45:56 GMT -5
Mustafa Ait Idir, Mohamed Nechla and Hadj Boudella ............. dont let these wahabi arab dogs come back to BiH. As long as the cetniks from Croatia are allowed to stay I don’t see why these defenders of Bosnia should be sent away, they are Bosnian citizens and innocent according to USA.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Dec 17, 2008 4:51:12 GMT -5
Funny analogy from Tito yet again...lol.
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Post by bob1389 on Dec 17, 2008 5:16:52 GMT -5
ROFL. The dog looks petrified.
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Post by CiKoLa on Dec 17, 2008 5:26:04 GMT -5
^^ hell id be petrified just standing next to that walking handkerchief.
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Post by tito on Dec 17, 2008 5:31:14 GMT -5
Sedam godina nelegalnog zatvora 17.12.2008 Prvu izjavu nakon sedam godina zatoèeništva Alžirac Ait Idr Mustafa sinoæ je ekskluzivno dao "Dnevnom avazu". - Pokušajte zamisliti koliku radost osjeæam. Bio sam skoro sedam godina na kraju svijeta, na najgorem mjestu na svijetu. To se ne može opisati - kazao nam je Ait Idr Mustafa. Kod kuæe su ga sinoæ sa suzama doèekali supruga i djeca. - Plakali smo od sreæe svi zajedno. Zamislite kako je to. Bilo bi teško i da je èovjek nešto uradio, ali je posebno teško kada je èovjek potpuno nevin - govori Mustafa. Kaže nam da je u dobrom zdravstvenom stanju, ali malo umoran od puta. Mustafina supruga Sabiha Deliæ i njihova djeca sve vrijeme su htjeli ostaviti za sebe, nakon njegovog povratka kuæi. Sabiha do posljednjeg momenta nije bila potpuno sigurna da æe supruga ponovo vidjeti. Nije, kazala nam je neposredno pred slijetanje aviona sa bh. državljanima u Sarajevo, mogla ni zamisliti kako æe taj susret izgledati. Ekipa "Dnevnog avaza" tokom juèerašnjeg dana bila je u stalnom kontaktu s porodicama Alžiraca, koje su do samog momenta susreta s nevjericom slušale informacije o njihovom oslobaðanju. Nakon rutinskog postupka utvrðivanja identiteta u Agenciji za istrage i zaštitu BiH, Boudela Hadž, Ait Idr Mustafa i Muhamed Nešle daleko od oèiju novinara otišli su svojim kuæama, suprugama i djeci. Emina Planja cijeli juèerašnji dan s nevjericom je išèekivala informacije o dolasku svog muža Boudele Hadža i doèekala ga je kod kuæe u sarajevskom prigradskom naselju Butile. S Hadžom je, kako saznajemo, došao i Muhamed Nešle, èija je porodica u Alžiru. No, kako je našoj ekipi sinoæ rekla Planja, njihova jedina želja je da se odmore od svega te nisu željeli pažnju javnosti i medija. Sud u Vašingtonu 21. novembra ove godine odlučio je da su Alžirci nelegalno držani u Gvantanamu i naredio je njihovo oslobađanje. Istovremeno, u junu ove godine Tužilaštvo Kantona Sarajevo donijelo je naredbu o provođenju istrage protiv nekadašnjeg predsjedavajućeg Vijeća ministara BiH Zlatka Lagumdžije, nekadašnjeg zamjenika ministra unutrašnjih poslova Federacije BiH Tomislava Limova i nekoliko radnika ovog ministarstva i Centralnog zatvora Sarajevo, zbog sumnje da su protivpravno isporučili građane BiH vlastima SAD u vojnu bazu Gvantanamo. U vrijeme izručenja Lagumdžija je u intervjuu za jedan sedmičnik izjavio da mu je "savjest mirna i da je sve urađeno po zakonu". Čak je, onako osorno i bezdušno, ustvrdio da ne bi mirno spavao da "Alžirci" nisu otišli u Gvantanamo, a da se dobro osjeća jer su oni upravo tamo završili. Danas, međutim, kada je svima postalo jasno da su nevini ljudi godinama ležali u zatvorima, Lagumdžija tvrdi da nema veze s izručenjem i da je osobno participirao u njihovom oslobađanju, što samo potvrđuje o kakvoj se dvoličnoj i beskrupuloznoj ličnosti radi. Bit će zanimljivo vidjeti kakve će finansijske i sudske posljedice imati povratak Alžiraca u Sarajevo. Izvjesno je, naime, da će država morati nadoknaditi štetu koja je napravljena nelegalnim izručenjem.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Dec 17, 2008 5:51:14 GMT -5
izgleda i tebi osmane ce pasti neka alzirka ili avganistanka cim tako se brines o njima hihih
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Post by fazlinho on Dec 17, 2008 5:55:17 GMT -5
There's no single reason why they should be sent away if they are innocent, actually they deserve support if they have been illegally held and tortured for 7 years.
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Post by hellboy87 on Dec 17, 2008 6:00:21 GMT -5
are those Arab guys back from Guantanamo super religious?
Is that one of their wives? She's covered all over
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