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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 17, 2009 9:07:39 GMT -5
look familiar...In Romania itself, Latin script was introduced in 1860 by outside Francophone elites following a nearly thousand year history of Cyrillic script in the region. In Moldova, Latin script was introduced in 1991. In both Moldavia and Walachia the written language used by church and authorities was church slavonic. Only in 18th century church slavonic was completely abandoned in Romania.
yeah, romanian hasn't changed at all. what a fake language lol
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:09:13 GMT -5
Ha ha what happened ? Your buddy wbb started to close the topics with "lol lol gypsy lol" and felt the need to open new others ? Dont be sad little guy , there will be always opportunities to vent your anger. And others to make fun of it , of course
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 17, 2009 12:50:46 GMT -5
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 17, 2009 12:54:21 GMT -5
why should I be angry that you gypsies used cyrillic script? Its actually funny how easy it is to reveal the absurd lies you pathetic mongrels try to pass off as history. It kind of shoots down your little roman origin myths or that the soviets forced the cyrillic alphabet on to you backward people doesn't it? So you shouldn't have any problem understanding.... dZIp.si lol
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Post by wbb on Jan 17, 2009 21:12:42 GMT -5
aha so romanians are slavs like serbs, russians,etc,etc. Russki, Srpski, Slovenski, Polski.... Romaneste, yeah does sound slavic but they latinized themselves, Latinized Slav-Gypsy. yeah it's does makes sense, hahahaha. So Romanians are definately not Dacians. Romania is a state of mind of being Latin, hahahah, why Romania doesnt exist in Vatican City then?
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Post by Dragos Voda on Jan 17, 2009 21:29:57 GMT -5
I'm sorry but the argument that Romanian isn't a neo-Latin language because it formerly used the Cyrillic script is idiotic. Hungarian and Turkish formerly used a central Asian script, now they use a Latin one. Does that make them Latin languages? No- they're Ural-Altaic. All the substratum of the Romanian language is based on Latin and it is classified as a neo-Romance language by linguists. The Cyrillic alphabet is not even a Slav alphabet- it's a modification of the Greek alphabet.
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Post by wbb on Jan 17, 2009 21:39:21 GMT -5
a what? Ural-Altaic? hahahaha, no u wrong, Hungarians are Scythians which is Iranian, Turkish are Asiatic. yah true, but that's doesnt mean Romanians are not slavic, romanian language sound very slavic, not the written pattern.
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 18, 2009 2:52:31 GMT -5
I'm sorry but the argument that Romanian isn't a neo-Latin language because it formerly used the Cyrillic script is idiotic. Hey you are talking with szorostalpu here, what do you expect ? From your beloved "nationmaster" Oh , so now NationMaster its not a "biased and forged" source anymore ? Regardless, that link again proves my point . All Cyrillic letters have correspondent in latin letters , so it doesnt matter the alphabet used , its the same word. it is classified as a neo-Romance language by linguists. Forget the linguists, a Hungarian-Irakian-muslim ( or something like that) who lives in Australia surely knows better than them
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 18, 2009 9:08:53 GMT -5
"Oh , so now NationMaster its not a "biased and forged" source anymore "
actually "nationmaster" is an incomplete mirror encyclpedia of "wiki"...in other words, any idiot can place a biased article on there and any fool such as yourself will believe it.
"Regardless, that link again proves my point ."
that you're latin wannabes......
It proves that you were wrong once again when you said that your roma-nian language has not changed in over 500 yrs. Changing an alphabet, incorporating 40% of French vocabulary into your language does not mean "almost the same" or even moderatley the same..but quite different. But you can always blame those bad Soviets for forcing the cyrillic alphabet on you proud sons of Rome, right?
Continue to troll the Hungarian forum with your frustrated, inept defences. Its fun to shoot mamaligia eating olahs down in my spare time.
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 19, 2009 1:36:57 GMT -5
actually "nationmaster" is an incomplete mirror encyclpedia of "wiki"...in other words, any idiot can place a biased article on there and any fool such as yourself will believe it. Yeah right, so why dont you log on there and modify the stats ? Oh man , you are really desperate if you started to invent things and pull them out of your ass. You still fail to show how the representations of sounds ( V its still a V even its spelled B in Cyrillic) affects the actual language. Until now, all you succeed to shoot was your own foot. Keep trying tho.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 19, 2009 11:18:09 GMT -5
NationMaster's database is composed of data that originated from sources in the public domain, including national censuses, UNDP, the UNESCO Institute of Statistics, UNCTAD, the WTO, World Bank Development Indicators, the World Resources Institute, the World Health Organization, OECD reports, the Central Intellegence Agency World Factbook. NationMaster also contains an incomplete mirror of the encyclopedia content from Wikipedia.
As of August 14, 2007, Wikipedia had approximately 7.9 million articles in 253 languages, 1.95 million of which are in the English edition.[1] This makes it the largest, most extensive, and fastest growing encyclopedia ever compiled.[citation needed] It has been written collaboratively by volunteers around the world and the vast majority of its articles can be edited by anyone with access to the Internet.
another dumb olah shot down in my spare time... "Keep trying tho." lol
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Post by ceferistulfericit on Jan 19, 2009 16:54:22 GMT -5
How exactly have you shot anyone down? As for the "made up language" issue, it is true that Romanian does posses some 30-40% words of French origin (still not as much as English by the way), those words are mainly to do with the developing science and technology or fashion. The day to day words have not been replaced (and indeed in day to day speech the French origin words are much lower). The fact of the matter is that French had a much more over reaching influence on English than it did on Romanian, but I don't hear szorostalpu going "English is a made up language". I wonder why? Well actually I don't: he doesn't hate England or Englisg but hates Romanians. Also how is it possible for a small elite to suddently wake up one day and say: "I don't like this Romanian. It is too slavic for me, I wish it was more latin," then proceed to change the speaking habbits of millions of Romanians (some of which they had no authority of such as Transylvania or Dobrogea). The problem with you szorostalpu you can pull millions of sources from the internet but if you do not have the mental capacity to understand them/ process what they mean then what you say is absolutely worthless.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 19, 2009 18:57:34 GMT -5
au contraire little wanker, why should I hate romanians? None of you have ever done anything to me personally, in fact I visit there every summer. I'm simply correcting and exposing the lies and falsehoods you and your cohorts try to pass off as truth and real facts. Now as far as your language is concerned not only is 40% borrowed from the French but another 40% was of slavic origin that you purged from your language when you latinized it back in the 1860s, add another 5 to 10% of Hungarian, Albanian, Turkish and god knows what else and there is your 10 to 15% neo-latin language, you proud sons of Rome. I suggest you stop trolling the Hungarian forum and start studying about your own language and history in more detail.
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Post by rusebg on Jan 19, 2009 18:59:25 GMT -5
It is not Cyrillic. It is Old Bulgarian.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 19, 2009 20:01:52 GMT -5
Does any asian Bulgarian words remain in your language?
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Post by taqarin on Jan 19, 2009 23:08:50 GMT -5
Also how is it possible for a small elite to suddently wake up one day and say: "I don't like this Romanian. It is too slavic for me, I wish it was more latin," then proceed to change the speaking habbits of millions of Romanians (some of which they had no authority of such as Transylvania or Dobrogea). fag, let me introduce you to a new concept: state sponsored education. And that really works, especially when there was no prior education system in place. As for the regions outside their authority: -Transylvania "literary language" was even more fucked up, with over 50% imported directly from classical latin (not french) and next to no slavic, so the guys there were happy when the gvt over the carpathians created a new literary language that also kept some slavic words. -Dobruja didn't have much Romanian speakers to begin with, and after annexation Romanian colonists rapidly outnumbered the natives 6:1 in just 30 years
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Post by taqarin on Jan 19, 2009 23:14:52 GMT -5
and the title should be spelled рѹмѫнеще
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Post by ioan on Jan 20, 2009 2:26:25 GMT -5
Does any asian Bulgarian words remain in your language? No that we know of. The lexic is mainly slavic. The grammer is similar to Romanian, Greek and Albanian one. Its the only analitical Slavic language, so linguist think its due to the preslavic tongue (Thracian?). There are lots of iranian words, thats why some scientist think Bulgars were Iranians. There are Turkish words, but they were introduced by the Turks. From the known Thracian words, there are alot, that remained in Bulgarian, slightly changed. So we can say our language is at first Slavic, then Balkanic - the only Slavic language that follows the grammatic rules of the Balkan languages. In medievil times Romanian and Bulgarian teritory were connected. Bulgars ruled Valahia. Later, in the second Bulgarian kingdome, Vlachs took part into creating the second bulgarian kingdome. According to the sources, the Bulgarian kings dinasty Asenevzi had Vlah origin. There were lots of influence by the slavic speech because we used to live in one state. There are lots of similar words in both Romanian and Bulgarian. Same people mixed to form the two people: Romanians - Dacians (most probably northern Thracian tribe), Slavs, Goths, Bulgars, Kumans. Almost the same people formed the Bulgarians, only the Thracian were the southern tribes: Misies, Odriski, Bessi, Tribally, Peonians (in Macedonia).
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Post by rusebg on Jan 20, 2009 4:13:58 GMT -5
Ioan, don't give wrong information. There are many Bulgar words left, important ones, like for father, big brother, dog, kidney, shrine, idol, house, etc. In addition, words that were considered to be Turkish are actually Bulgar.
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 20, 2009 4:40:32 GMT -5
There were cases where documents were written in Romanian or Latin; altough that which was written in Romanian, was written in the Cyrillic alphabet, which was based on the Greek alphabet.
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