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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 2, 2009 0:15:30 GMT -5
Are you still a fatty? And what about this Hellenic wisdom that you keep mentioning? What of it have you read? Name a book or two.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 2, 2009 0:32:17 GMT -5
Fatty?
Never been bigger and loving it. Add shaved head and you get people leaving you the hell alone outside, just how I like it.
Hellenic wisdom that you keep mentioning?
It is just an ideal for turbulent dogma driven balkanoids.
What of it have you read? Name a book or two.
Way too busy with life to pine and read entire books right now (not to mention we are in an internet age where books are becoming obsolete). Neither does one have to read entire books to grasp basic ideas behind something. I like being original and expressing my viewpoints versus copying or following other ones. I don't need to know Plato's 'Republic' or Seneca's 'Letter From a Stoic' by heart to have the ability to think for myself. Plus we live in different times (facing problems that ancients could not have anticipated) and therefore such ideas might only be viewed as a general initial guide if one is to use them as such.
PS: Regardless of semi-childish condescending overtones let me wish you happy new year and welcome back to the forums.
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Post by SKORIC on Jan 2, 2009 2:03:25 GMT -5
Aniti your on his forum so if your gonna make him out to be a sad person look at your self for abit ok thanks cya mwa
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 2, 2009 2:46:33 GMT -5
Books are not becoming obsolete. If you mean that digital books will replace paper books, then that would be wrong, also. The internet has in fact strenghthen interest in literature.
I agree, but when you take on to promote a philosophy with such confidence, then I expect you to know a thing or two about the subject.
If you like to be original, then promote your own ideas instead of using the name of a philosophy. And no one said anything about copying anything. I believe that by reading what others have thought, can only enrich your understanding in things. I wasn't talking about reading the Bible and commit yourself to what is written there.
Then why promote Hellenistic wisdom?
As for Skoric:
That's what we told you and your cousins, the Bulgarians, when you came to our forum. But you're still here, urinating on our ancient land. When you'll leave the Balkans, I'll leave this forum.
Happy New Year to both of you!
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 2, 2009 3:35:46 GMT -5
I agree, but when you take on to promote a philosophy with such confidence, then I expect you to know a thing or two about the subject.
I never said I do not know a thing or two, simply put I know enough to make a viewpoint. This is not as if am applying to become a dentist so I have to know everything there is to know in that particular field to qualify in order to pass exam and finally become one. This is just freestyle exchange of ideas and communication is open to all.
If you like to be original, then promote your own ideas instead of using the name of a philosophy. And no one said anything about copying anything. I believe that by reading what others have thought, can only enrich your understanding in things. I wasn't talking about reading the Bible and commit yourself to what is written there.
I am influenced by philosophy but do not exactly follow any one particular style or idea. I have read books in the past regarding it and written analysis of given works at times in different forums in the past. I just haven't done it lately due to lack of time. I do not possess a photographic memory to remember all the details of what I have read some time in the past thus will not argue something I do not remember fully nor do I see a need to remember as I am more them capable to formulate ideas if need be. Also I have a right to express my views as I see fit in a manner that doesn't insult anyone and feel free to do the same.
Then why promote Hellenistic wisdom?
Since I like philosophy and view that one as its original forms then why not. Another reason being that Hellenism is the original and only provable Balkanian cultural influence and one of its segments is philosophy. One will build a house from the foundation up and as far as I am concerned that is more then enough of a solid foundation to start with.
That's what we told you and your cousins, the Bulgarians, when you came to our forum. But you're still here, urinating on our ancient land. When you'll leave the Balkans, I'll leave this forum.
No one is telling you to leave the forums, in fact I tried several times in the past to bring you back if I remember correctly.
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Post by SKORIC on Jan 2, 2009 7:57:44 GMT -5
lol sorry i didnt realise this forum is your ancient land. Ill try to urinate elsewhere in the future.
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Post by highduke on Jan 2, 2009 8:49:25 GMT -5
Why is there conflict between Aadmin & Anittas?
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Post by tito on Jan 2, 2009 9:08:48 GMT -5
Why is there conflict between Aadmin & Anittas? A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away..
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Zetaman
Jan 2, 2009 10:28:03 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Jan 2, 2009 10:28:03 GMT -5
It is just an ideal for turbulent dogma driven balkanoids. LMAO... because Ancient Greece wasn't turbulent and Greeks back then weren't driven by Dogmatic beliefs (Athenians, Spartans, Thracians, etc). Hell, they were worse than we are. At least we don't have cities states feuding with each other and a war every decade.
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Zetaman
Jan 2, 2009 12:42:34 GMT -5
Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 2, 2009 12:42:34 GMT -5
LMAO... because Ancient Greece wasn't turbulent and Greeks back then weren't driven by Dogmatic beliefs (Athenians, Spartans, Thracians, etc). Hell, they were worse than we are. At least we don't have cities states feuding with each other and a war every decade.
I am not proposing coping the political life of the ancient Greece such as "Solon's Laws" (Athens) or "Lycurgus's Laws (Sparta). Again I am influenced by philosophy which itself originated in Greece which is located in what is today known as Balkans.
And we have modern version of city states or are getting there fast (Montenegro, Fyrom, 'Kosovo', RS, FbIH) which are bellow the population of an average Chinese city.
Why is there conflict between Aadmin & Anittas?
I have no conflict with Annitas while he might dislike the idea that I am indifferent towards non-balkan people (such as Nordics).
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Zetaman
Jan 2, 2009 13:12:47 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Jan 2, 2009 13:12:47 GMT -5
I am not proposing coping the political life of the ancient Greece such as "Solon's Laws" (Athens) or "Lycurgus's Laws (Sparta). Again I am influenced by philosophy which itself originated in Greece which is located in what is today known as Balkans. Philosophy no more originated in Greece than it did in China, India or any other place on earth. Philosophy is a universal concept. In any case, I’d rather not accept the opinions of men who jacked off little boys in their spare time. Their "philosophy" and "morality" is morbid compared to modern philosophy and morality. I thought you wanted a "modern secularist" so why not follow modern thought? And we have modern version of city states or are getting there fast (Montenegro, Fyrom, 'Kosovo', RS, FbIH) which are bellow the population of an average Chinese city. When Podgorica secedes from Montenegro, then you can compare the two.
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Zetaman
Jan 2, 2009 13:38:16 GMT -5
Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 2, 2009 13:38:16 GMT -5
Philosophy no more originated in Greece than it did in China, India or any other place on earth. Philosophy is a universal concept. In any case, I’d rather not accept the opinions of men who jacked off little boys in their spare time. Their "philosophy" and "morality" is morbid compared to modern philosophy and morality. I thought you wanted a "modern secularist" so why not follow modern thought?
I go by what I see versus what might have been. I see a whole bunch of Greek philosophers and I fail to see one from India or China with the exception of Buddha (centuries after earlier Greek ones in an area that was already influenced by Greece via Alexander). It is not a universal concept (although its values are) cause it does not appear across the globe. There could also be alien cultures with far more advanced philosophical concept but I am dealing with facts only.
I do not care for anything unproven such as these sexual allegations which are mainly fabricated by one roman writer centuries later without references nor do I care for their sexuality but their intellect. In addition, I do not need some abrahamic concepts as a measure of anything, on contrary I find that more morbid then anything else (dictionary meaning of morbid fits it perfectly: suggesting an unhealthy mental state or attitude; unwholesome gloomy, sensitive, extreme, etc.: a morbid interest in death).
Again I said that I like philosophy which (as we know it) originated in Greece. I did not say that I only have interest in ancient one, two different things.
When Podgorica secedes from Montenegro, then you can compare the two.
I disagree. I am applying the fact that population levels have increased exponentially since then and therefore the comparison is mathematically valid in terms of population size then being compared to now which is what I was focusing my line of though upon.
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Zetaman
Jan 2, 2009 14:14:49 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Jan 2, 2009 14:14:49 GMT -5
I go by what I see versus what might have been. I see a whole bunch of Greek philosophers and I fail to see one from India or China with the exception of Buddha (centuries after earlier Greek ones in an area that was already influenced by Greece via Alexander). It is not a universal concept (although its values are) cause it does not appear across the globe. There could also be alien cultures with far more advanced philosophical concept but I am dealing with facts only. I do not care for anything unproven such as these sexual allegations which are mainly fabricated by one roman writer centuries later without references nor do I care for their sexuality but their intellect. In addition, I do not need some abrahamic concepts as a measure of anything, on contrary I find that more morbid then anything else (dictionary meaning of morbid fits it perfectly: suggesting an unhealthy mental state or attitude; unwholesome gloomy, sensitive, extreme, etc.: a morbid interest in death). Again I said that I like philosophy which (as we know it) originated in Greece. I did not say that I only have interest in ancient one, two different things. Indian Philosophy. Persian Philosophy. Chinese Philosophy. All before Socrates and most other famous Greek philosophers. I disagree. I am applying the fact that population levels have increased exponentially since then and therefore the comparison is mathematically valid in terms of population size then being compared to now which is what I was focusing my line of though upon. What exactly are you comparing between states now and states then?
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Zetaman
Jan 2, 2009 14:35:07 GMT -5
Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 2, 2009 14:35:07 GMT -5
What exactly are you comparing between states now and states then?
Their population levels or in other words how small they are from that aspect.
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Zetaman
Jan 2, 2009 15:56:27 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Jan 2, 2009 15:56:27 GMT -5
You know that there were fewer people living in cities back then than there is now, right?
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 3, 2009 3:34:20 GMT -5
I'm sorry to dissapoint Aadmin, but Greek philosophy was not created in the Balkans, but by Ionian Greeks that lived on the western coast of Asia Minor. Thales is the first recognized Greek philosopher. The journey of philosophy to the Balkans was rather slow. It took a while before it reached the islands and Pythagoras. He's the guy who made the word philosophy and he studied in Egypt. In fact, Greek philosophy was heavily influenced by Eastern philosophy.
You say that the east only has Buddha as a philosopher? Why don't you check on the Persian Zoroster and Avesta; and the Egyptian Book of the Dead?
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Zetaman
Jan 3, 2009 14:36:30 GMT -5
Post by sweetnugs on Jan 3, 2009 14:36:30 GMT -5
You know that there were fewer people living in cities back then than there is now, right? Post sources to back up your claims.
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Zetaman
Jan 3, 2009 17:09:23 GMT -5
Post by rusebg on Jan 3, 2009 17:09:23 GMT -5
Why don't you post sources to state the opposite before insulting people? Not more than 70-80 years ago the population in villages and towns was something like 70:30. Which means that most people lived in villages.
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Zetaman
Jan 3, 2009 18:59:19 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Jan 3, 2009 18:59:19 GMT -5
Thanks to mechanized farming.
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Zetaman
Jan 3, 2009 23:35:53 GMT -5
Post by adolfkarderi on Jan 3, 2009 23:35:53 GMT -5
this thread is hilarious Serbs and Romanians against Greeks!! i personally admire Ancient Greece at least some aspects of it and im not ashamed to admit that Socrates is my hero! I live by the slogan "I know i am wise because i know taht i know nothing!" modern Greece is not even half the "country" Athens and Macedonia were back in the day.
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