niquetamere
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Post by niquetamere on May 9, 2008 18:11:01 GMT -5
Just yesterday Milorad Dodik fired at SDS (Radovan Karadzic, Biljana Plavsic, Momcilo Krajsnik, Nikola Koljevic) by saying that SDS is fully accountable for the genocide against Bosniacs in Srebrenica.
This of course marked the first time RS premier had publicly admitted that RS (or SDS) was behind the organized genocide in Srebrenica against the male Muslim population.
A day later SDS fired back at Dodik denying the claims and asking Dodik to step down the PM of Rep. Srpska entity.
"Nismo odgovorni za masakr u Srebrenici": SDS zatražio ostavku Milorada Dodika
Srpska demokratska stranka danas je odbacila kao neistinutu izjavu predsjednika Vlade Republike Srpske Milorada Dodika da je ova stranka "odgovorna za masakr u Srebrenici", te zatražila Dodikovu ostavku.
SDS "najoštrije osuduje i odlucno odbacuje gnusne optužbe" premijera Dodika u kojima SDS, a time i institucije RS, "optužuje za ratne zlocine", navodi se u saopštenju ove stranke.
U saopštenju SDS-a navodi se da "politicki neodgovorne Dodikove optužbe imaju za cilj, ne samo da opravdaju to što je Srebrenicu stavio pod poseban status, vec i da, što je još pogubnije, razviju teoriju da je RS stvorena na zlocinu, i to pred predstojece ustavne promjene".
U saopštenju se navodi da tako neodgovorne i opasne optužbe "ozbiljno ugrožavaju interese RS", zbog cega SDS od premijera RS Milorada Dodika traži da podnese ostavku.
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Post by theblackswans on May 9, 2008 18:24:22 GMT -5
WOW if that is true it is a big step forward for RS and Dodik. The only way RS can survive is by distancing itself from its genocidal birth and embracing BiH and Europe.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 10, 2008 6:18:18 GMT -5
treba izbaciti sve i jednog sds.ovca iz parlamenta...
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Post by radovic on May 10, 2008 16:42:37 GMT -5
treba izbaciti sve i jednog sds.ovca iz parlamenta... To su trebali vec davno uraditi.
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Post by niquetamere on May 11, 2008 0:50:07 GMT -5
treba izbaciti sve i jednog sds.ovca iz parlamenta... To su trebali vec davno uraditi. Thats funny and extremely ironic considering that SDS is the reason why RS ever saw the 'light' of being an entity and crippling the state of BiH and now.. years later, people are shitting on them when in reality they should have destroyed them before the war even started. Karadzic = SDS, Plavsic = SDS = Krajisnik = SDS = All criminals. The only difference with this is that Dodik likes where he is right now and he will say anything to keep his spot. Karadzic created RS and now his puppet Dodik after all these years admits that genocide in Srebrenica was planed by the same makers who set out to carve BiH and still do. Ya, so I actually agree. Trebali su vec davno smece da izbace.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 11, 2008 3:19:11 GMT -5
To su trebali vec davno uraditi. Thats funny and extremely ironic considering that SDS is the reason why RS ever saw the 'light' of being an entity and crippling the state of BiH and now.. years later, people are s**tting on them when in reality they should have destroyed them before the war even started. Karadzic = SDS, Plavsic = SDS = Krajisnik = SDS = All criminals. The only difference with this is that Dodik likes where he is right now and he will say anything to keep his spot. Karadzic created RS and now his puppet Dodik after all these years admits that genocide in Srebrenica was planed by the same makers who set out to carve BiH and still do. Ya, so I actually agree. Trebali su vec davno smece da izbace. If u look at history many bad people had carved up, formed or in some way made a country, in this case "entitet" but what stops better people to come in and make it different? SDS wanted Totaly independence, dodik is more kind of Integrate us but recognize uss.. I sour dont have any problem to live in BIH, but i dont want the other side to abolish our wishes to 100% so it suits them.. i mean RS a part of BIH, call it SBIH what the hell.. aint that hard
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Post by radovic on May 11, 2008 8:35:42 GMT -5
To su trebali vec davno uraditi. Thats funny and extremely ironic considering that SDS is the reason why RS ever saw the 'light' of being an entity and crippling the state of BiH and now.. years later, people are s**tting on them when in reality they should have destroyed them before the war even started. Karadzic = SDS, Plavsic = SDS = Krajisnik = SDS = All criminals. The only difference with this is that Dodik likes where he is right now and he will say anything to keep his spot. Karadzic created RS and now his puppet Dodik after all these years admits that genocide in Srebrenica was planed by the same makers who set out to carve BiH and still do. Ya, so I actually agree. Trebali su vec davno smece da izbace. When was Dodik a puppet of Karadzic? Dodik was never a member of SDS. Dodik was never installed as PM because of Karadzic -- no, Dodik was installed as PM because he served as a useful puppet to the west. The statements made by Dodik now are just an attempt to use the moderation on the RS political scene that has occured since Dayton to finally get rid of the corrupt, criminal SDS. Local elections are being held this year in RS and he's using every opportunity he can to try and make SDS more and more irrelevant each day.
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Post by terroreign on May 11, 2008 13:53:36 GMT -5
Its hard for RS to be stable when it never existed as an entity 15 years ago..
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Post by theblackswans on May 11, 2008 15:46:22 GMT -5
WoW I am shocked I think everyone commenting on this story has a good point. I can't remember a time when this happened. I am quite impressed, if everyone in BiH acted and thought like this (on all sides) then you would see quite a different future for BiH and the Balkans... I think you people are giving me hope!
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 11, 2008 16:25:58 GMT -5
Like i said before i dont have any probs livin with in Bosnia's borders as long as RS is respected, offcourse there are many things to improve... But total abolishing isnt going no where.. Same for Kosovo, i think the north part should be in serbia, so both sides get something.. Then Balkan problem is solved
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Post by niquetamere on May 11, 2008 19:18:28 GMT -5
Like i said before i dont have any probs livin with in Bosnia's borders as long as RS is respected, offcourse there are many things to improve... But total abolishing isnt going no where.. Same for Kosovo, i think the north part should be in serbia, so both sides get something.. Then Balkan problem is solved Balkan problem is not easy to solve since generations after generations pass nationalistic values down their children and everything gets repeated. Bosnians would be much kinder to RS if they worked on getting Karadzic and Mladic sent to jail but when you have hordes of Serbs hailing those two like they're saints what do you expect from Bosniaks and Croats? I have no problem with RS existing, in my mind, RS is just a name much like FBIH, I see the big picture that picture is state of BiH. RS is pretty much a 'county' so to say but I would respect RS grounds way more if they showed that they care about getting Karadzic and Mladic to face the charges.
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Post by radovic on May 11, 2008 23:10:01 GMT -5
Like i said before i dont have any probs livin with in Bosnia's borders as long as RS is respected, offcourse there are many things to improve... But total abolishing isnt going no where.. Same for Kosovo, i think the north part should be in serbia, so both sides get something.. Then Balkan problem is solved Balkan problem is not easy to solve since generations after generations pass nationalistic values down their children and everything gets repeated. Bosnians would be much kinder to RS if they worked on getting Karadzic and Mladic sent to jail but when you have hordes of Serbs hailing those two like they're saints what do you expect from Bosniaks and Croats? If the Bosniaks want Mladic and Karadzic arrested then they should direct there anger against the Hague. The Hague constantly claims to know where they are (or at least where Mladic is), yet they do nothing. They don't inform Serb, Bosnian or Montenegrin authorities or western governments (a UNSC decision allows the west to send commandos to arrest them in violation fo the sovergnity of any country where they are).
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Post by theblackswans on May 12, 2008 8:22:02 GMT -5
Balkan problem is not easy to solve since generations after generations pass nationalistic values down their children and everything gets repeated. Bosnians would be much kinder to RS if they worked on getting Karadzic and Mladic sent to jail but when you have hordes of Serbs hailing those two like they're saints what do you expect from Bosniaks and Croats? If the Bosniaks want Mladic and Karadzic arrested then they should direct there anger against the Hague. The Hague constantly claims to know where they are (or at least where Mladic is), yet they do nothing. They don't inform Serb, Bosnian or Montenegrin authorities or western governments (a UNSC decision allows the west to send commandos to arrest them in violation fo the sovergnity of any country where they are). The international community doesn't want to, or they are afraid of catching them. I believe there was a tacit agreement to at least let Karadzic walk away. Also I think the international community is afraid of what might happen to Boris Tadic if Mladic were arrested in Serbia. Lets do a checklist... 5 wars lost in less than 10 years-Check One president arrested and three dead (Stambolic, Milosevic, Djindjic)-Check International Isolation-Check Massive corruption and unemployment-Check economic stagnation-Check At this point the Serbs don't have much to lose if there "hero" Mladic were arrested. Personally with this kind of recent history any connections to this massive failure I wouldn't want to be a part of. That is the funny thing about Serbian history and cultural links though. The worst the catastrophy and disaster the more Serbs revere it as some great moral victory for them!
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Post by radovic on May 12, 2008 9:19:54 GMT -5
If the Bosniaks want Mladic and Karadzic arrested then they should direct there anger against the Hague. The Hague constantly claims to know where they are (or at least where Mladic is), yet they do nothing. They don't inform Serb, Bosnian or Montenegrin authorities or western governments (a UNSC decision allows the west to send commandos to arrest them in violation fo the sovergnity of any country where they are). The international community doesn't want to, or they are afraid of catching them. I believe there was a tacit agreement to at least let Karadzic walk away. Also I think the international community is afraid of what might happen to Boris Tadic if Mladic were arrested in Serbia. Lets do a checklist... 5 wars lost in less than 10 years-Check One president arrested and three dead (Stambolic, Milosevic, Djindjic)-Check International Isolation-Check Massive corruption and unemployment-Check economic stagnation-Check At this point the Serbs don't have much to lose if there "hero" Mladic were arrested. Personally with this kind of recent history any connections to this massive failure I wouldn't want to be a part of. That is the funny thing about Serbian history and cultural links though. The worst the catastrophy and disaster the more Serbs revere it as some great moral victory for them! Let's do an actual fact check: - Slovenian war was approved by the JNA presidency, ti was not a war. - Serbia was exonerated from any involvement in Bosnia. The same is likely to be true in Croatia's lawsuit. - Only Kosovo was lost in a war (the other 3 were SFRY or Serbs in the Republics (not Serbia))-- Serbia faced an allaince with an economy close to 2,000 times that of Serbia and 70 times the population of Serbia. NATO it's self was surprised that the bombing lasted more then 2 days. - There was no 5th war, and Djindjic wasn't a president. Furthermore, if the west fear what will happen then why don't they do what they did with Gotovina -- have him transferred from Croatia to somewhere abroad where they arrest him? It's not because the west has any concern for Tadic it is because Serbia does not listen ot the west. They could easily transfer Mladic to Romania, Bulgaria or Greece, even Italy or France (where he has some sympathizers in the populace) and arrest him to prevent a government collapse.
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