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Post by theblackswans on Mar 27, 2008 23:22:51 GMT -5
I just want to do my bit to help the people of Sarajevo. Since Bosnia doesn't have it's section on the World Vision site, it's the least I could do. Is what send twenty bucks to some goat herder from visegrad so he can buy some cheap booze made out of rubbing alcohol? How about toothbrushes for RS, now that would be a worthy cause! Or fingerpaints for the adults of Banja Luka (since serbs don't like brushes) ;D
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Post by bob1389 on Mar 27, 2008 23:40:35 GMT -5
theblackswans,
You're not too bright now are you, I mean, why else would you sprouting the Bosnian Islamist agenda?
As far as sending money into Bosnia, it's a b***h. Especially into the Serb areas. The US and EU officials for some reason or another assume the the diaspora will use local bank accounts to aid suspected 'war crims' and make it very hard to process transactions. Ridiculous, I know!
Obviously all the 'Ranko Mladen' accounts are based in Vienna and not in Bijeljina, that would be too obvious and our General is much smarter than that. ;D
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Post by Novus Dis on Mar 28, 2008 0:02:44 GMT -5
1) The EC and Germany wanted to control the Balkans and that is why the war happened. Why did Germany recognise Slovenia and Croatia in 1991 when not even the US was willing to do that at that point? Misreporting Kosovo. Moving Defiantly on Yugoslavia, Bonn Threatens Rift With Allies.U.N. Yields to Plans by Germany To Recognize Yugoslav Republics.2) That Albanians were conspiring against you in Kosovo in 1988/1998/2008. Its not really a conspiracy if they broadcast their intent and then go to war. Though Albanians have not only been "conspiring" against Serbs but also Macedonians and anyone else who stand against their expansionist policy. And Serb "paranoia" doesn't explain the wars in Southern Serbia or Macedonia. 3) That the middle east had influence over Izetbegovic and wanted to install islamic law The Islamic Declaration. The Islamic Declaration. (wikipedia) Mujahideen in Bosnia and Herzegovina. (wikipedia) 4) That Nato wanted a base in the balkans that is why the serbs fought A) Slovenia B) Croatia C) Bosnia D) Kosovo E) were preparing plans for Montenegro until Milosevic was diposed What does the Slovene, Croat, Muslim and Albanian leadership have in common? 1. They are willing to whore themselves to the US/EU. 2. They are/were fighting the only people who didn't want to whore themselves to the US/EU. 5) Clinton started the war in Kosovo to distract from Monica Lewienski I doubt this is the case and I have never taken this allegation seriously. More likely he attacked Serbs for the same reason Bush II attacked Afghanistan and Iraq; because he wanted to put more bases in the world so the military of the US can mobilize faster if it needs to.
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Post by theblackswans on Mar 28, 2008 8:27:31 GMT -5
Don't you get it, you have these complex conspiricy theories about the world conspiring against you and your people. The fact of the matter is your just not that important or relevent the axis of power in Europe has shifted and it has left serbia behind because of this dillusion.
It is no more a East/West split and Titos' non aligned movement is no longer relevent ie serbia is no longer relevent.
It is funny tiny Slovenia is so much stronger and relevent and it was forgotten and abused in the 1980's and milosevic had nothing but contempt for these people...
Now Slovenia is educating the serbs and setting terms for relations with the EU ;D
It is sad, actually in many ways I like serbs just not this dillusional christ crucifiction idea that so many of you have. It is embarrassing to be so out of touch with reality. That is what happens though when your whole idenity is wrapped up in your victimization thru history.
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Post by stickinthemud on Mar 28, 2008 11:33:29 GMT -5
Wow, you guys went way off on a tangent. Has the issue been addressed about who owns the property that the proposed cross is supposed to be erected on? I think if a Serb owns the property and he wants to erect a cross there should be no problem with that.
Whats Bosnia's position on property rights?
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Post by niquetamere on Mar 28, 2008 15:54:18 GMT -5
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Post by Novus Dis on Mar 28, 2008 17:30:37 GMT -5
Don't you get it, you have these complex conspiricy theories about the world conspiring against you and your people. The fact of the matter is your just not that important or relevent the axis of power in Europe has shifted and it has left serbia behind because of this dillusion. It is no more a East/West split and Titos' non aligned movement is no longer relevent ie serbia is no longer relevent. It is funny tiny Slovenia is so much stronger and relevent and it was forgotten and abused in the 1980's and milosevic had nothing but contempt for these people... Now Slovenia is educating the serbs and setting terms for relations with the EU ;D It is sad, actually in many ways I like serbs just not this dillusional christ crucifiction idea that so many of you have. It is embarrassing to be so out of touch with reality. That is what happens though when your whole idenity is wrapped up in your victimization thru history. Dismiss facts as paranoid conspiracy theories if you wish; It doesn't change the fact that your idol wanted to turn Bosnia into an Islamic fundamentalist state nor does it change Germanys role in the break-up of Yugoslavia nor does it change the Albanian expansion currently happening. Wow, you guys went way off on a tangent. Has the issue been addressed about who owns the property that the proposed cross is supposed to be erected on? I think if a Serb owns the property and he wants to erect a cross there should be no problem with that. Whats Bosnia's position on property rights? Politics controls everything in Bosnia. There is no freedom of speech or property rights that comes ahead of the politics that the EU keeps dishing out (which is to have Muslims have complete control all of Bosnia, though the idea that Serbs and Croats will simply let that happen is ridiculous).
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Post by niquetamere on Mar 28, 2008 18:27:57 GMT -5
You're absolutely insane. All Bosniaks want is to equally share the united state of BiH together with Croats and Serbs. Thats what you cant get through your narrow minded head. You seem to think that Bosniaks would somehow take over everything and Serbs and Croats would be gone. Thats not the case, even Bosnian Croats and Serbs who are loyal to BiH want a unified state whatever their numbers might count. How paranoid and delusional do you have to be to think the way do you do. Seriously, lets just cut to the basics and say that Serbs don't like to share anything with anyone and want to be the absolutele rulers, hence the idiotic dream of greater Serbia, not once was there anything such as greater Bosniak state of BiH. Don't be a retarded fool and think Bosniaks are out to somehow erase Serbs and Croats. Are you seriously THAT dense to think that would happen? Think outside the box for once.
Bosniaks know that a country with two entities can only survive if they follow what Spain has done with their 'entities' or provinces. They want a fully functional state for ALL Bosnian citizens, not just Bosniaks but the fact of the matter is that some of you Serbs can't sleep at night if you're not the bosses of the whole operation. You have some deep self centered issues that need to be properly medicated. This is why some of you can't sleep at night knowing 'Croats' or 'Bosnians' exist because in your psychopathic little minds, you think everything is Serbian and that Serbs should rule all.
Examine your head. You have major issues.
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Post by stickinthemud on Mar 28, 2008 19:18:28 GMT -5
But thats like saying have your pie and eat it too without acknowledging the fact that the pie may not be desired in the first place. It sound like you're saying one group knows whats in the best interest of the other group. I don't understand how someone can rationalize that a certain group of individuals have the right to determine the destiny and future of another group of individuals or individual with the coercive powers of the state. All good intentions are thrown out the window when one seeks to use the coercive power of the state to achieve their goals.
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Post by Novus Dis on Mar 28, 2008 21:47:38 GMT -5
You're absolutely insane. All Bosniaks want is to equally share the united state of BiH together with Croats and Serbs. Thats what you cant get through your narrow minded head. You seem to think that Bosniaks would somehow take over everything and Serbs and Croats would be gone. Thats not the case, even Bosnian Croats and Serbs who are loyal to BiH want a unified state whatever their numbers might count. How paranoid and delusional do you have to be to think the way do you do. Seriously, lets just cut to the basics and say that Serbs don't like to share anything with anyone and want to be the absolutele rulers, hence the idiotic dream of greater Serbia, not once was there anything such as greater Bosniak state of BiH. Don't be a retarded fool and think Bosniaks are out to somehow erase Serbs and Croats. Are you seriously THAT dense to think that would happen? Think outside the box for once. Bosniaks know that a country with two entities can only survive if they follow what Spain has done with their 'entities' or provinces. They want a fully functional state for ALL Bosnian citizens, not just Bosniaks but the fact of the matter is that some of you Serbs can't sleep at night if you're not the bosses of the whole operation. You have some deep self centered issues that need to be properly medicated. This is why some of you can't sleep at night knowing 'Croats' or 'Bosnians' exist because in your psychopathic little minds, you think everything is Serbian and that Serbs should rule all. If Muslims don't want to dominate Bosnia then why call for the destruction of RS? If Muslims want to share power then why not give Croats autonomy? Examine your head. You have major issues. Examine your arse; you might find your head there.
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Post by theblackswans on Mar 28, 2008 23:24:41 GMT -5
RS was a product of genocide and ethnic cleansing that is why some Bosnians call for the abolishment.
Can you cetniks ever be honest with yourselves even for a minute? That is why you say there are no gays in Serbia (like Iran likes to say) I think it is because most of the people who claim this are gay and don't want to admit it. You people suffer from sever dillusions. That is why you have walrus mustaches and wear speedos and biker shorts and hang out with men...GAY!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Novus Dis on Mar 28, 2008 23:45:32 GMT -5
RS was a product of genocide and ethnic cleansing that is why some Bosnians call for the abolishment. Wouldn't product mean that RS was created from genocide? How is RS the product of genocide when RS was created before ethnic cleansing took place? Can you cetniks ever be honest with yourselves even for a minute? That is why you say there are no gays in Serbia (like Iran likes to say) I think it is because most of the people who claim this are gay and don't want to admit it. You people suffer from sever dillusions. That is why you have walrus mustaches and wear speedos and biker shorts and hang out with men...GAY!!!!!!!!!! What are you on about? There are homosexuals everywhere.
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Post by SKORIC on Mar 29, 2008 2:25:34 GMT -5
Who says that?.. oh sthop it.. you meany
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Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 11:25:40 GMT -5
I've done my bit for the 'Peace for Sarajevo' cross and sent a donation via Western Union. I can just see it now, with all the tourists flocking to take pictures with it. Hooray for democracy Hm, you obviously don't know anything about that area in Sarajevo. How exactly do you expect to attract tourists to Zlatiste when every guide states that the area of Trebevic which was under RS control still has mines in the area. How do you expect to explain what the cross means to tourists considering that over 3,000 Serbs who stayed in commonwealth of Sarajevo were killed by Serbian snipers and shells? Are you going to be honest and tell them that were killed by the army of Rep. Srpska because thats exactly what happened, all from the place you want to put the cross on. 'Zicara' that used to take people from Bistrik area to Zlatiste is DEAD, destroyed, and will not be renewed. So tough luck attracting tourists. I can just see tourists scratching their heads right now. I dare Serbs to put up that cross, we'll see how long it takes before the hoards of Bosnians from Sarajevo collectively come up there to take it down.
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Post by zgembo on Mar 29, 2008 16:16:13 GMT -5
No, they weren't just killed by RS Army shells. They were killed by local Muslims too. You had detention centres for Sarajevo Serbs where men were killed and women where raped. Serbian men were used as shield and as ditch diggers by the BiH Army.
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Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 16:50:22 GMT -5
No, they weren't just killed by RS Army shells. They were killed by local Muslims too. You had detention centres for Sarajevo Serbs where men were killed and women where raped. Serbian men were used as shield and as ditch diggers by the BiH Army. Was Jovan Divjak one of them? The only 'camp' was in Tarcin, which is not IN Sarajevo pal. And no one there was murdered, thats why that camp is not heard of. They detained only men, women were free. Where were women raped, what camp? Stop talking out of your ass. Serbian men fought in ABiH army and to this day continue to live in Sarajevo. Just because you can't sleep at night knowing some Serbs went against 'Srpska' doesn't give you the right to bulls**t people. There are documented details all over Sarajevo how many Serbs died in various SNIPER SHOOTINGS and Massacres that occured. You're such a sad and a pathetic being. When your beloved pig Ratko Mladic was shelling places in Sarajevo where Serbs lived who was protecting them? MUSLIMS. Are you gonna say this is bs too because there are recordings of Ratko Mladic spefically indicated that it is okay to shell places where not too many Serbs live.
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Post by Novus Dis on Mar 29, 2008 16:57:17 GMT -5
You both need to cite sources.
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Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 18:21:32 GMT -5
You both need to cite sources. I need a valid source you're not a fucking idiot. Provide it please.
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Post by Novus Dis on Mar 29, 2008 18:53:29 GMT -5
I need a valid source you're not a f**king idiot. Provide it please. Don't be frustrated because you have no evidence and every statement you make is based on hearsay.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Mar 30, 2008 4:51:54 GMT -5
Serbs fought for BIH? I think its more the other way!!
major Ismet Đuherić?? Meša Selimović company??
Major in VRS???
Ring any bells??
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