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Post by radovic on May 5, 2008 13:23:35 GMT -5
Schroeder was in 1999 was one of the NATO leaders most supportive of the bombing.
Schroeder: Kosovo recognition “against Europe’s interests” 5 May 2008 Gerhard Schroeder says that recognition of Kosovo's unilateral independence goes against Europe's best interests.
The former German chancellor told the RIA agency that the dispute over Kosovo’s status could not be solved “without the participation of the pro-European forces of President Boris Tadiæ’s team.”
“However, recognition of Kosovo has weakened those forces, maybe to such an extent that soon we will effectively have a completely isolated and uncertain Serbia,” he lamented.
“I think that recognition of Kosovo was the wrong step, because it was done too soon. In essence, recognition by the majority of EU member states and the U.S., instead of solving the problem, has only created new ones,” Schroeder observed.
“Speaking completely frankly, the EU has in this case completely bowed to American pressure. That solution might have been in the best interests of the U.S., but it was certainly not in Europe's best interests,” he said.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 5, 2008 21:32:40 GMT -5
Isn't he now chairman of a joint Russian German gas company.....its all about personal interest lol
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 5, 2008 21:36:15 GMT -5
“Speaking completely frankly, the EU has in this case completely bowed to American pressure. That solution might have been in the best interests of the U.S., but it was certainly not in Europe's best interests,” he said.
I frankly couldn't believe how easly they did bow to them, then how are they going to compete against nations like china in the future?
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Post by Fender on May 6, 2008 1:48:07 GMT -5
The Europeans are becoming tired of being smashed about the head by the US. They always knew that the unilateral decleration was going to make things messy without fixing the problem. The fact that now some countries are voicing their frustration, shows a slowley but surely changing of attitudes to the situation. Increasingly, the US will find itself isolated on this issue for not being able to see it to its conclusion.
The Europeans need the Serbs more than Kosovo and Albania combined as the trade routes are all through Serbia. Albania is the end of only one line.
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Post by worldcit on May 7, 2008 18:10:27 GMT -5
He is not against recognition of kosova as independant state ....he is just talking about the timing....he said it is soon. And article is not complete. I red the original version where he was saing that recognition should have taken place when both Serbia and Kosova join EU.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 7, 2008 18:17:26 GMT -5
How can "Kosova" join the EU when it hasn't even joined the UN? Over 150 UN recognized countries oppose the Albanian declaration so there isn't much chance of the Albanian infested protectorate joining the UN either.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 7, 2008 18:29:10 GMT -5
"The Europeans need the Serbs more than Kosovo and Albania combined as the trade routes are all through Serbia. Albania is the end of only one line."
I'm not sure whether Albanian has sufficient shipping docks?
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Post by albaniansoul on May 7, 2008 18:44:31 GMT -5
"? Over 150 UN recognized countries oppose the Albanian declaration so there isn't much chance of the Albanian infested protectorate joining the UN either. "
And every serb on earth drinks blood! How does that sound? Are you deluded? Where did you come up with that?
That they have not recognized it doesnt mean they're against it. Was Lithuania in your list too?
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Post by worldcit on May 7, 2008 18:48:05 GMT -5
How can "Kosova" join the EU when it hasn't even joined the UN? Over 150 UN recognized countries oppose the Albanian declaration so there isn't much chance of the Albanian infested protectorate joining the UN either. you have to ask Shroeder about this not me ...I just said what I red in original article.
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Post by Fender on May 7, 2008 18:48:41 GMT -5
He is not against recognition of kosova as independant state ....he is just talking about the timing....he said it is soon. And article is not complete. I red the original version where he was saing that recognition should have taken place when both Serbia and Kosova join EU. There was nothing said about timing. What was mentioned wqas the fact that this is against European interests but for US interests. It has nothing to do with timing. As a matter of fact, there was no perfect time to claim a UDI as it is illegal. This is something you must come to terms with.
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Post by Fender on May 7, 2008 18:50:33 GMT -5
"The Europeans need the Serbs more than Kosovo and Albania combined as the trade routes are all through Serbia. Albania is the end of only one line." I'm not sure whether Albanian has sufficient shipping docks? You see, thats the problem. Even if Albania had sufficient infrastructure on the docks, the goods still need to flow through Serbia as the most direct route. They are stuffed either way.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 7, 2008 19:14:35 GMT -5
And every serb on earth drinks blood! How does that sound? Are you deluded? Where did you come up with that? By reading history. The Albanians go into an area and then multiply while destroying the natives of that land and abusing the welfare system before attacking the government outright. If that is not an infestation then I don't know what is. What has happened in Serbia and Macedonia and what is happening in Greece is proof enough. That they have not recognized it doesnt mean they're against it. Was Lithuania in your list too? Do you actually think the majority of UN members are against international law?
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 7, 2008 19:17:13 GMT -5
^ What makes it worse is that all its neighbours don't see eye to eye with this country. I can't see these people distancing themselves away from the underworld criminal activity in a million years, l got to say at least some of this criminal money is getting used in development.
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Post by worldcit on May 7, 2008 19:47:56 GMT -5
He is not against recognition of kosova as independant state ....he is just talking about the timing....he said it is soon. And article is not complete. I red the original version where he was saing that recognition should have taken place when both Serbia and Kosova join EU. There was nothing said about timing. What was mentioned wqas the fact that this is against European interests but for US interests. It has nothing to do with timing. As a matter of fact, there was no perfect time to claim a UDI as it is illegal. This is something you must come to terms with. en.rian.ru/analysis/20080505/106582326.htmlIndeed, having recognized Kosovo's independence, the majority of EU members and the United States have created many problems. I mean not only Kosovo but also the conflicts that you have mentioned. In my opinion, this step was wrong because it was premature. There were other options. I think that Serbia should be admitted to the EU, if it wants. Kosovo could join the EU as part of Serbia, or it could acquire independent statehood when Serbia becomes a member. In any event, this conflict cannot be resolved without the participation of pro-European forces from President Boris Tadic's team. However, Kosovo's recognition has weakened these forces, probably so much that we will soon have to deal with an isolated and unpredictable Kosovo. To be honest, it is a pity that the EU has followed the United States' lead on this issue. This decision was probably in America's favor, but it was not at all in Europe's interests. This is original article ...these are original words that Shroeder said in his interview...I read words PREMATURE, Kosovo could join the EU as part of Serbia, or it could acquire independent statehood when Serbia becomes a member. This tells me that Shroeder is not against independance but he is really concerned about timing ..
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Post by worldcit on May 7, 2008 19:54:24 GMT -5
This article comes from a Russian source, so you should accept as true
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 7, 2008 21:05:00 GMT -5
^ Whatever happens you need a signature on the dotted line ;D
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Post by Novus Dis on May 7, 2008 22:55:12 GMT -5
This article comes from a Russian source, so you should accept as true One thing you should know about Serbs is that we don't bend over for other countries/people like you do.
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Post by filomen on May 8, 2008 2:48:56 GMT -5
what i am sorry is those world Deucaon are the same at the 19 century serb academics towards albanian... but both of our peoples have the same frase : the dogs let scarmisching the caravan go on
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Post by Novus Dis on May 8, 2008 3:28:44 GMT -5
what i am sorry is those world Deucaon are the same at the 19 century serb academics towards albanian... but both of our peoples have the same frase : the dogs let scarmisching the caravan go on Back then Albanians were hardly more civilized so I can assume the "Serb academics" were rightly justified in anything they wrote.
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Post by worldcit on May 8, 2008 14:05:37 GMT -5
This article comes from a Russian source, so you should accept as true One thing you should know about Serbs is that we don't bend over for other countries/people like you do. I am not talking about Serbs bending to Russia...I just wanted to emphasise that the source that I was refering couldn't be bias and if it were it could be for Serbia. You can't deny the Russians are much closer to you. As for us Albanain bending to someone that's not true. We respect USA for the great help of course. It is not a late thing. It was USA that vetoed for the creation of Albanain State after the ww1. Back then they had not any intrest in Balkans. So they favoured us because they thought it was right thing to do. I cant say that about Russia helping you since the ottoman times. Russians had strong intrests in the Balkans and by helping you they were helping themself. The same thing they doing today. They just want to confirm as regional power and Serbs are being used for their purporses. If they get Abkhasia and Ossetia they will sell you in a second.
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