Anthologic
Amicus
"Lord of all Reality"
Ha!
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Post by Anthologic on Dec 18, 2007 1:51:07 GMT -5
Yes I know... I think I'll go there once it becomes independent from the states . btw I'm not joking.
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Mimi
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Kosovo IS Albania!
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Post by Mimi on Dec 18, 2007 7:43:33 GMT -5
Is anyone here actually from Kosovo? I asked AAdmin if any IPs lead back to there... I doubt I'll get any promising results. Yes me, i am a kosovo alb ;D i mean by orgin cuz i live in sweden...the population(albs) of kosovo are young and sexy:D, the avarage age 21-25 ;D...70% under 30 yr we have hope!
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Post by radovic on Dec 18, 2007 9:38:22 GMT -5
Its not "occupation" if the people within the region dont mind being "occupied". Official recognized death toll is at 10,000. 10,000 is not the number of deaths. In a few years time the number will decrease to 5,000. The 10,00 now is being used like propaganda just like the 200,000 claim made for Bosnia has been proven to be an exaggeration.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 18, 2007 13:20:43 GMT -5
1. Your statement doesnt really do anything, most media stays with 10,000.
2. We will see "in a few years".
3. Ill believe the majority of sources, not a person who is inclined not to believe them because of his own biased reasons.
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Post by radovic on Dec 18, 2007 13:59:31 GMT -5
1. Your statement doesnt really do anything, most media stays with 10,000. 2. We will see "in a few years". 3. Ill believe the majority of sources, not a person who is inclined not to believe them because of his own biased reasons. 1. I don't care if most media says it is 10,000. That same media for 10 years or so after the war in Bosnia was claiming the figures as 200,000. That same media at one time before the war claimed figures of 100,000+ dead and msssing albanians. 2. We will see. 3. My reasons are not biased and based on fact. The fact is the media for years exagerrated the Bosnian war dead and prior to the start of the war in Kosovo exagerrated the case in that war.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 18, 2007 14:07:56 GMT -5
They had every reason to believe this since at the time of the attack nobody knew what was going on, meaning that until that point they were unaccounted for. Hundreds of thousands of Albs were expelled and many only re-appeared after the danger subsided. Until that point people could only speculate... thankfully the numbers were actually lower then the initial estimates. The samething happened during and after 911.
hardly a "fact" if the majority doesnt buy it...
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Anthologic
Amicus
"Lord of all Reality"
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Post by Anthologic on Dec 18, 2007 23:30:50 GMT -5
hardly a "fact" if the majority doesnt buy it... Are you serious? You're saying eventually if everyone believes one thing it becomes true. Not your best effort there. Also, most humanitarian sources don't cite Serbian deaths in Kosovo, so really there is a bias that is prevalent.
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viktor1
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Post by viktor1 on Dec 19, 2007 7:56:51 GMT -5
WHole world has declared serbs as a falt about ballkans war and war crimes againts humanity....And now serbs r playing a stupid game...claiming that Nato is illegal organisation..? hahahahaahahhaha
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Post by Pejoni on Dec 19, 2007 8:23:11 GMT -5
1. Your statement doesnt really do anything, most media stays with 10,000. 2. We will see "in a few years". 3. Ill believe the majority of sources, not a person who is inclined not to believe them because of his own biased reasons. 1. I don't care if most media says it is 10,000. That same media for 10 years or so after the war in Bosnia was claiming the figures as 200,000. That same media at one time before the war claimed figures of 100,000+ dead and msssing albanians. 2. We will see. 3. My reasons are not biased and based on fact. The fact is the media for years exagerrated the Bosnian war dead and prior to the start of the war in Kosovo exagerrated the case in that war. No, you care what Serbianna or RTS have to say
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Post by radovic on Dec 19, 2007 9:52:00 GMT -5
1. I don't care if most media says it is 10,000. That same media for 10 years or so after the war in Bosnia was claiming the figures as 200,000. That same media at one time before the war claimed figures of 100,000+ dead and msssing albanians. 2. We will see. 3. My reasons are not biased and based on fact. The fact is the media for years exagerrated the Bosnian war dead and prior to the start of the war in Kosovo exagerrated the case in that war. No, you care what Serbianna or RTS have to say No. i don't care what they say. Those facts are true.
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Post by radovic on Dec 19, 2007 9:53:40 GMT -5
WHole world has declared serbs as a falt about ballkans war and war crimes againts humanity....And now serbs r playing a stupid game...claiming that Nato is illegal organisation..? hahahahaahahhaha NATO is an illegal organization. It was build to defend western Europe against the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union is no more and it should under it's own charter thus cease to exist. NATO's charter has never been changed fopr a post-soviet era. Even if it did it's iown charter explicitly states NATO had no right to bomb Serbia since it can only act if actions are a direct threat to NATO states. What was happenning in the Balkans was in no way a direct threat (particularly in Kosovo).
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Post by radovic on Dec 19, 2007 9:55:48 GMT -5
They had every reason to believe this since at the time of the attack nobody knew what was going on, meaning that until that point they were unaccounted for. Hundreds of thousands of Albs were expelled and many only re-appeared after the danger subsided. Until that point people could only speculate... thankfully the numbers were actually lower then the initial estimates. The samething happened during and after 911. At the time of the attack documents from european governments and even the U.S. state department made it clear that the 100,000 figure was a gross exagerration. So basically the media was ignoring facts and not telling the truth. Even if they did speculate, an exageration of 10 times was a blatant media lie,. also. By your logic the western media had every right to lie that Iraq had WMD's.
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Post by sorryp on Dec 19, 2007 10:00:36 GMT -5
Victor, Pejoni, relax no single normal citizen at least in UK gives a rats ass about kosovo. They dont even know where it is located, and they often confuse Bosnia with kosovo. One english guy told me the other day that he read somewhere that Bosnia wanted Independence!!! Plus, the ones (admittedly very few) who have visited Serbia, would only praise Serb's hospitality, formality, efficiency,honesty as compared to rest of the balkanians. (See what retired UN officials had to say about Serb vs Albanian villages in Kosovo).
So your conception of the "whole world" is just some minds with very high strategic positions in both USA/UK and care about their sustaining of power, and control major TV channels, newspapers. Both USA/UK are kind of former or present superpowers whose leaderships are concerned about continuity of this status quo. The fact that Serbs were a target is just a temporal fact, a bad coincidence, and the favor for albanians is just an insignificant and also temporal side effect.
Those same papers that used to spread propaganda against the Serbs, are the ones who will start praising Serbia's Economy once some major funds (or even the same strategic minds referred earlier) have invested there.
Dont get the impression that the whole world sleeps and wakes up having albanians in mind. You quest for greater albania suited some agentas for some time. a) It didnt lead anywhere b) Dont expect this to go on forever
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Post by radovic on Dec 19, 2007 10:04:07 GMT -5
Victor, Pejoni, relax no single normal citizen at least in UK gives a rats ass about kosovo. They dont even know where it is located, and they often confuse Bosnia with kosovo. One english guy told me the other day that he read somewhere that Bosnia wanted Independence!!! Plus, the ones (admittedly very few) who have visited Serbia, would only praise Serb's hospitality, formality, efficiency,honesty as compared to rest of the balkanians. (See what retired UN officials had to say about Serb vs Albanian villages in Kosovo). So your conception of the "whole world" is just some minds with very high strategic positions in both USA/UK and care about their sustaining of power, and control major TV channels, newspapers. Both USA/UK are kind of former or present superpowers whose leaderships are concerned about continuity of this status quo. The fact that Serbs were a target is just a temporal fact, a bad coincidence, and the favor for albanians is just an insignificant and also temporal side effect. Those same papers that used to spread propaganda against the Serbs, are the ones who will start praising Serbia's Economy once some major funds (or even the same strategic minds referred earlier) have invested there. Dont get the impression that the whole world sleeps and wakes up having albanians in mind. You quest for greater albania suited some agentas for some time. a) It didnt lead anywhere b) Dont expect this to go on forever when they refer to the whole world they in reality talk about less then 10% of the population in western europe and america. Like you say, few people actually care.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 19, 2007 14:48:35 GMT -5
Almost every global issue has the attention of less then 10% of the world....
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