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Post by Alb_Korcar on Feb 27, 2009 11:54:14 GMT -5
vote! and now am officially leaving this forum.
sincerely, AdolfMussolini
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Feb 27, 2009 12:06:09 GMT -5
We are European Union as I said BallKan is Europe's forehead and frontier place. BallKan (Balcony) is pure Albanian word which that means Forehead . Europe will be chit without Balkan. Cheers Myself, Universal Father Sun_MYSUS Christ !!!!! My Web page www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/MysiansMysia Pronounced Jesus The Messiah.
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Post by chalkedon on Feb 27, 2009 12:18:57 GMT -5
Im all for it...We have more in common than we have differences.
I dont know if you mean turkey in as well...if you do....i might have to reconsider
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Feb 27, 2009 12:27:56 GMT -5
Sultan with Turk Ottomans balance Europe and saved whole balkan with greeks from romans. Greece and greeks must pray and worship Turks !
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Post by highduke on Feb 27, 2009 12:29:14 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Feb 27, 2009 12:38:13 GMT -5
Federations of Planets -Headquarters Tirane
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Post by rex362 on Feb 27, 2009 14:10:16 GMT -5
Hand job ?
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Post by meltdown711 on Feb 27, 2009 14:31:43 GMT -5
Turkey, Albania and Bosnia.
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Post by highduke on Feb 27, 2009 14:51:11 GMT -5
Turkey gave you regional social power, islam & pederasty, so stay loyal LOL
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Post by plisbardhi on Feb 27, 2009 14:54:39 GMT -5
Turkey gave you about a quarter of your genetic material.
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Post by meltdown711 on Feb 27, 2009 15:15:53 GMT -5
You know what Highduke, its true, Pederasty was an act that was done in Albania. However we can say that it was a foreign derived culture practiced principally by an Ottoman influenced aristocracy which had had its fill of Persian-Arab poetry and wanted to mimic its practices. It was a limited movement of a small minority in contrast to the overall population which never had the time for such nonsense, since survival was their main concern. However, today its very different. Today, if gays gather in Tirana or have any kind of association, they run the risk of getting their legs broken by the cops. They stand to lose their entire social position in society. They are often humiliated and often forced to leave the country (taken from an article you guys posted in the Serb forum years back in order to portray Albs in an intolerant and negative light). They have their societies and clubs underground where few notice them. Compare that to how gays can gather openly in Belgrade or Sarajevo and celebrate their 'culture'... or the lax attitude of Serbia. Then tell us, who is fruitier. Albanians or Serbs... Yours is a popular movement, ours was that of a minority landholding aristocracy.
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Post by highduke on Feb 27, 2009 15:30:56 GMT -5
it was not practiced by a minority and was a part of the warrior ethic of your albanian warior heroes, according to the research it was all pervasive and because you repress it today, it comes out in criminal behavior like flooding europe with wrapons, drugs and prostitution, Sittlichkeit.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 27, 2009 15:32:53 GMT -5
and Hand jobs by Highduke
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Post by meltdown711 on Feb 27, 2009 16:02:20 GMT -5
We wouldnt be the first people whose warrior ethic was tied to a homosexual act. If you read Evan-Pritchard's article 'Sexual Inversions among the Azande', youll see that he points to an interesting reality: where men are more confined to one another and hindered from females, homosexual practices rise (look at prisons, or hazing rituals among military men, look at boys only private schools etc. etc.). In these very areas where men are to be at their manliest, they end up also entering into their 'unmanly'. Hence why you have frat houses committing such ridiculously gay crap to one another (such as the commonly spoken of, but in my opinion largely a myth, 'elephant walk' where men are arranged in a line the person infront of the other has to grab the latter's penis while the latter has to stick his hand in the former's ass... and they all have to march that way... pretty fukin vile if you ask me, and I cant imagine any self-respecting male undergoing it thats why I believe its a myth, yet people have mentioned it more than once around campus and many believe it occurs, fratboys have denied the idea obviously).
Albanian aristocratic society was not unlike 5th century Athenian. Men and women were divided by rooms and even different floors of the house (Athenians kept women in the roof, while in Albania they were on the second floor generally since men, for blood feud reasons, had to occupy the highest level). Whats more women were generally betrothed very very early (girls in Athens were married as young as 12, while in Lysistrata we hear of*girl who had her cherry popped at the age of seven, by a man in his 20's. Unfortunately the same could be said in Albania, where women could be betrothed as early as 10-14). In turn there was no way to actually practice court-ship, something which is of utmost importance to males in their ability to valourize their sexual conquests. Without any women (to court another mans woman in Albania was to ask for a blood feud: death. While in Andalusian and Athenian 5th century you risked being bludged by that woman's man. In Athens we have the comedic mention of a punishment for men who did this whereby the husband stuck a large piece of vegetable up the anus of the offending male, thus making him a kinaidos), something else needed to become 'the courted'. In Andalusian societies, military men would make the younger trainees the 'biches'. They would use them for a while as sexual objects. This ended up becoming something of a ritual practice. Something that is thought to have happened in Spartan 'Doric' Society. Athenian society had an interesting similar concept of a boy, as not yet a man and therefore his status was somewhat obscure (for the good or worse).
Whats more, however, there is no evidence that this was a warrior culture induced thing. Albanian nobility was idealy a warrior nobility, but by the 18-19th century they had lost their warrior culture and pretty much became landholders with a lot of free time (their education ended relatively early if it ever occurred at all). So it may well be that what I typed up there doesnt even apply.
There are a number of many other things, but these cultural practices were fortunately eradicated by the communists with the destruction of the Ottoman aristocracy. Albanians were far from being alone, yet fact is... unlike modern day Serbia's gay population, where they are lifelong male only... in all these cases the men returned to sex with females... Whats more, in many of these cultures, full on insertion was not practiced, rather something we call the 'intercrural' was done, where men essentially rub the inner-thighs. This is a common depiction in Athenian and doric pottery and what was practiced often by the Andalusians, who though of the idea of full on penetration (which the Serbian gays do) as despicable. In a sense, we can also say something of the kind probably occurred among the Albanian aristocratic practice.
And yes, I have done studies on this in the recent past, since I was trying to atleast come to terms with such a practice and the circumstances around it.
Never send your son to an all boys school, I know a group of kids who attended the catholic all boys school near where i live and... their something alright...
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Post by kapetan on Feb 27, 2009 16:12:03 GMT -5
You know what Highduke, its true, Pederasty was an act that was done in Albania. However we can say that it was a foreign derived culture practiced principally by an Ottoman influenced aristocracy which had had its fill of Persian-Arab poetry and wanted to mimic its practices. It was a limited movement of a small minority in contrast to the overall population which never had the time for such nonsense, since survival was their main concern. However, today its very different. Today, if gays gather in Tirana or have any kind of association, they run the risk of getting their legs broken by the cops. They stand to lose their entire social position in society. They are often humiliated and often forced to leave the country (taken from an article you guys posted in the Serb forum years back in order to portray Albs in an intolerant and negative light). They have their societies and clubs underground where few notice them. Compare that to how gays can gather openly in Belgrade or Sarajevo and celebrate their 'culture'... or the lax attitude of Serbia. Then tell us, who is fruitier. Albanians or Serbs... Yours is a popular movement, ours was that of a minority landholding aristocracy. lolz nah the first ever gay festival in bosnia was canceled after the first day they were beaten and attacked doubt there'll be another anytime soon
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Post by meltdown711 on Feb 27, 2009 16:40:47 GMT -5
It was canceled because the idiots organized it on a holy day for Muslims, which seemed like an instigaion. They should have been more aware of the current climate towards their position and been a bit more sensible, not that I have ever felt there should be festivals celebrating any kind of sexual orientation.... when the very people celebrating tell us that its none of our business... but this is heading in a diff. direction, one which we have discussed here before.
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Post by monsterofsouli on Feb 27, 2009 16:52:44 GMT -5
We are European Union as I said BallKan is Europe's forehead and frontier place. BallKan (Balcony) is pure Albanian word which that means Forehead . Europe will be chit without Balkan. Cheers Myself, Universal Father Sun_MYSUS Christ !!!!! My Web page www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/MysiansMysia Pronounced Jesus The Messiah. Noooooooo, Balkan is a Turkish word. Thank you, alrighty then, bye bye now.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Feb 27, 2009 17:41:00 GMT -5
Ball+Kan Ball=Forehead (Frontier) Kan=have (are) Balkan=Balkon
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Post by highduke on Feb 27, 2009 18:33:41 GMT -5
the comparison to 5fth century 6reece is more than a bit of a stretch, Sittlichkeit, regardless, I just wanted to point out that the warriors you envy and try to emulate were pederastic warrior poets and that hey, an albo going gay these days because he cant get p.ussy is not doing anything shameful by your ancestors' standards, infact a gay albanian nationalist is not a contrafiction like in most cultures, in fact it was the norm at the height of your power and the same could be said about those n.iggers you mentioned, the Azande
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Post by l0rdbyron on Feb 27, 2009 18:39:52 GMT -5
I'm going to slap some Highduke ass tonight . Be on time and just crawl into bed .
LB
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