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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 23, 2008 21:19:34 GMT -5
Are most Albanians in Fyrom of Tosk origin? i know two Albanian girls from there, one from Struga the other from Prespa(with origins in Kolonja and Korca) the former calls me mr. sexy hair lol and the latter says words like mirke, whihc are only used by Korcars... both speak Albanian more or less like me...both are proud of being Albanian and Tosk Albanian at taht... so is the majority of Albs in fyrom tosk?
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Post by malsor4life on Dec 23, 2008 21:31:01 GMT -5
They are Gegs in Macedonia, except for around Ohrid.
Struga is interesting, some parts speak Tosk others Geg. A guy from there once told me, 10 different houses in Struga will speak 10 different dialects lol
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Dec 23, 2008 23:15:08 GMT -5
Diber, Oher and Struge are mostly geg with some tosk, prespa almost all tosk, manastir and rethina almost 80% geg, all other northern cities like tetova, gostivari, kumanova, shkup are related to the kosovars and malsors, I am tosk form Manastir with origins from Kolonja.
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 24, 2008 3:01:04 GMT -5
Cfar mutin po ndodh me Shqiptaret e Maqedonise? Skam qen nonji here aty edhe keshtu ate qe di e kam vetem nga cfar lezoj ose ne libra ose ne internet... Sikur ca here me duken si fanatika fare. Sikur xdho Tetovar qe takoj eshte besimtare musliman ne nivel te frikshem. Isha njoftur me nji qe po bente shkolle keto ne NY per car ako... sikur e vetmja gje qe kishte ne koke ishte feja. Edhe tani po hapin grupa si "Forumi rinor islamik" edhe kur i shof ftyrat e ca me duken tamam si ato te lindjes (me mjekra). Besoj qi kjo eshte nje minoritet te vogel qe ben zhurm te madhe ne internet, si gjitha minoritet ekstremist... por prap, kur e mendoj se cfar ben ato shqiptaret ne ft dix me vjen si frike. Me ka tregu nji qe kur po shikonte per diskoteka dhe klube ne Tetove, i tha nji ne ruge "hik nga ktu me keto bdaliqe".
Ilir, kur ishte hera e fundit qe ti ishe atje... ti ose nje anetar tjeter (Srok, ti me the qe ke shkuar atje kto kohet e fundit). Si eshte "enviromenti" atje?
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Post by ErmirI on Dec 24, 2008 3:06:46 GMT -5
S'jan ekstremista jo, vec pak me shume fetare se ne te tjeret
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Post by rex362 on Dec 24, 2008 11:27:11 GMT -5
Ilir ...you can go into all those area's you mentioned were Gehg and you will find tosk speakers also ....
Good Ol' Melty....I think you been hanging around the few freaks we have ;D
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Post by adolfkarderi on Dec 24, 2008 12:37:23 GMT -5
hey good ol crybaby this is not about their religious preferences... and i agree with rex because the girl from Struga also has origins from Kosova yet she speaks Albanian just like she was from Albania, so i think the gegs can be programmed..lol...if they seperated they can be toskified ;D
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Post by rex362 on Dec 24, 2008 13:14:19 GMT -5
everybody I know from Struga here in Chicago area speak toska In Tetova it counts where you go ..Diber also ....Kumanova is mixed as is Gostivari but majority Gehg.. Shkupi and surroundings ..mostly Gega....Manastiri is mixed and its surrounding mostly tosk....prespa is all Tosk 100% ...
Ilir who you know in prespa speaks Gheg style ?
NOW.....according to what I have heard long ago is that Mac Albs was majority Gheg style ...but after schools and media took on the official tosk it slowly changed ....
10 years ago I met a guy from Shkodra here in USA ....The hardest/harshest alb dialect I have ever heard...10 years plus of it and now I understand him 95% ....but he has also has adjusted for me also ..
the 2nd hardest for me was in a few villages in Kosova...but mostly the older folks ,the younger folks adjusted the heavy base a bit .. ;D
then again I speak the American raised Albanian version /Micrsoft Version 7.6 ;D
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Post by shejtani on Dec 24, 2008 13:20:05 GMT -5
Cfar mutin po ndodh me Shqiptaret e Maqedonise? Skam qen nonji here aty edhe keshtu ate qe di e kam vetem nga cfar lezoj ose ne libra ose ne internet... Sikur ca here me duken si fanatika fare. Sikur xdho Tetovar qe takoj eshte besimtare musliman ne nivel te frikshem. Isha njoftur me nji qe po bente shkolle keto ne NY per car ako... sikur e vetmja gje qe kishte ne koke ishte feja. Edhe tani po hapin grupa si "Forumi rinor islamik" edhe kur i shof ftyrat e ca me duken tamam si ato te lindjes (me mjekra). Besoj qi kjo eshte nje minoritet te vogel qe ben zhurm te madhe ne internet, si gjitha minoritet ekstremist... por prap, kur e mendoj se cfar ben ato shqiptaret ne ft dix me vjen si frike. Me ka tregu nji qe kur po shikonte per diskoteka dhe klube ne Tetove, i tha nji ne ruge "hik nga ktu me keto bdaliqe". Ilir, kur ishte hera e fundit qe ti ishe atje... ti ose nje anetar tjeter (Srok, ti me the qe ke shkuar atje kto kohet e fundit). Si eshte "enviromenti" atje? fr.youtube.com/watch?v=kIgx3QH6kag ;D
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 24, 2008 13:33:23 GMT -5
80-85% are Gegs and 10-15% are Tosks (around Struga, Ohri, Manastri, Prespa)
I have been in Struga several times and all of them spoked with me in Tosk dialect.
Even one Tetovian/Shkupian with one Strugan can hardly understand each other.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Dec 24, 2008 13:43:06 GMT -5
Cfar mutin po ndodh me Shqiptaret e Maqedonise? Skam qen nonji here aty edhe keshtu ate qe di e kam vetem nga cfar lezoj ose ne libra ose ne internet... Sikur ca here me duken si fanatika fare. Sikur xdho Tetovar qe takoj eshte besimtare musliman ne nivel te frikshem. Isha njoftur me nji qe po bente shkolle keto ne NY per car ako... sikur e vetmja gje qe kishte ne koke ishte feja. Edhe tani po hapin grupa si "Forumi rinor islamik" edhe kur i shof ftyrat e ca me duken tamam si ato te lindjes (me mjekra). Besoj qi kjo eshte nje minoritet te vogel qe ben zhurm te madhe ne internet, si gjitha minoritet ekstremist... por prap, kur e mendoj se cfar ben ato shqiptaret ne ft dix me vjen si frike. Me ka tregu nji qe kur po shikonte per diskoteka dhe klube ne Tetove, i tha nji ne ruge "hik nga ktu me keto bdaliqe". Ilir, kur ishte hera e fundit qe ti ishe atje... ti ose nje anetar tjeter (Srok, ti me the qe ke shkuar atje kto kohet e fundit). Si eshte "enviromenti" atje? Ashtu eshte por jane edhe nacionalista...me thene te drejten jane te prapambetur per ate gjithqka lidhen me fe mos harro qe 75%-80% e popullates shqiptare jane fshatar per ate jane mbrapa...por duhet kohe pakten 10-15 vjet ska me mbet asnje lloj monster e ti lejne traditat e vjetra orjentale qe nuk kane te bej asgje me neve.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Dec 25, 2008 3:51:37 GMT -5
I said prespa were all tosks...
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Dec 25, 2008 18:38:07 GMT -5
a i ke pa fotot e vjetra te shqiperise dhe kosoves...same chit...edhe katoliket i vinin shamijat me mantila ne ato kohe...por ju kaluat ne kohen e enverit ne mbetem prapa...dhe kjo ndodh vetem ne disa vende ne shkup dhe tetove
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Dec 27, 2008 22:53:14 GMT -5
Kam ndegjuar qe do do Shqiptare nga Maqedonia jan aq fetare qe as ne fotografi nuk deshirojne te futen sepse eshte kunder fehes se tyre. Sa i perket theksit nuk jam i sigurt por Shqipetaret e Maqedonise gjithmone i kam pare si ma te ngjashem me Shqipetaret e Kosoves se te Shqiperise per shkak historie dhe kufi qe kemi pasur njeri me tjetrin. Kemi me shum lidhje familjare se me Shqiperine dhe ka me shum Shqipetare te Maqedonise se te Shqiperise duke jetuar dhe punuar ne Kosove me duket mua. Kam takuar disa te Shqiperise por me shum te Maqedonise ne Kosove. Si gjithmone secili Shqiptar nga Maqedonia e sheh Shqiperine si memedhe e jo Kosoven. Ket e shohim edhe ne Kosove dhe ne gjith trojet jasht kufirit Shqipetar. Ne shohim ne te ardhmen nje Shqiperi te forte dhe te bashkuar.
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Post by L0gjICK on Jun 2, 2009 14:40:00 GMT -5
The majority of the extremist come from Tetove, then Gostivar and then you have some in Shkup and Kumonova. Why? I'm not exactly sure, but areas from say Kercova downwards are much less religious.
I remember going to Durres a few years ago and seeing a Tetovar family and the girls were wearing headscarves, and honestly, I felt embarrassed for them.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jun 2, 2009 15:03:28 GMT -5
Ugh!!! Thank GOD for the 1976 enforced Atheism.
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Post by L0gjICK on Jun 2, 2009 15:31:21 GMT -5
Honestly, I wished some Malsors and parts of Ilirda went through Enver's rule at times. I loathe religion.
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