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Post by theblackswans on May 27, 2008 8:46:32 GMT -5
3.000 ROSES THROWN INTO THE DRINA RIVER FROM MEHMED PASHA SOKOLOVIC BRIDGE IN MEMORY OF GENOCIDE VICTIMS FROM VISEGRAD VIŠEGRAD, Bosnia (May 27,2008) – In the organization of the Bosnian Association of families of missing persons and civilians victims of aggression “Visegrad 92” on Sunday, a commemoration was held for genocide victims from the eastern Bosnian town of Visegrad.
On this occasion, 3.000 roses were laid on Mehmed Pasa Sokolovic Bridge and after the ceremony they were lowered into the Drina River as a sign of memory 3000 genocide victims from Visegrad murdered by the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor in the early 1990's.
16th anniversary ceremony of the mass murder of innocent Bosnian civilians from Visegrad was attended by a member of the Bosnian State Presidency Zeljko Komsic who threw a bouquet of red roses into Drina River in memory of the genocide victims.
About 2.000 people were present at the commemorative ceremony.
Those present were Bosnian government representatives, representatives of Bratunac municipality, emissaries of the FBiH entity, Sarajevo Mayor Semiha Borovac, Gorazde Imam Hamed Ef. Efendic, and number of Imams from Podrinje.
During the 1992-95 Serbian aggression against Bosnia, Visegrad was a site where war crimes were committed by the Serbian aggressor against the town's Bosnian population.Some 3,000 Bosnian civilians, including 121 children,from Visegrad were mass murdered by the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor.
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Post by tyson on May 27, 2008 8:50:15 GMT -5
R.I.P.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 27, 2008 10:16:37 GMT -5
They should be a monument for the Serb victims of genocidal Muslim fascist aggression.
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Post by niquetamere on May 27, 2008 10:47:09 GMT -5
They should be a monument for the Serb victims of genocidal Muslim fascist aggression. In Visegrad? Are you out your mind.
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Post by MiG on May 27, 2008 11:02:23 GMT -5
R.I.P. to the victims. May they never be forgotten.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 27, 2008 11:03:23 GMT -5
In Visegrad? Are you out your mind. Well they built a memorial for Muslims in Srebrenica so why not?
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Post by niquetamere on May 27, 2008 13:12:55 GMT -5
In Visegrad? Are you out your mind. Well they built a memorial for Muslims in Srebrenica so why not? Because thats where Muslims were murdered. There is also one for Serbs. Do you even know what happened in Visegrad or are you just talking out of your ass.
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Post by theblackswans on May 27, 2008 13:43:58 GMT -5
They should be a monument for the Serb victims of genocidal Muslim fascist aggression. Just one problem though, IT NEVER HAPPENED! Stop equating guilt, you can't compare the two. In Bosnia there were victims and there were the Agressors which were the Serbs who were led by Milosevic and Karadzic. You can't compare individual crimes to a systematic campaign to eliminate and remove all non Serbs from the rs. Bosnians and Croats and many serbs had different goals than the facists who were led by belgrade government and who were formenting hate among the people. You do a disservice to real Serbs by lying and supporting killers and criminals.
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Post by zgembo on May 27, 2008 23:43:37 GMT -5
You guys don't mind equating guilt from World War 2 though. Back then, it was the Serbs who were the first victims, it was Serbs who were slaughtered by Muslims in Visegrad, it was Serbs who used to be a majority in that area. It is time we commemorated the crimes committed against us in World War 2, instead we've allowed the communists to keep them under wraps... because of, you know, reconciliation, something that is far from a goal in this multi-ethnic democracy called BiH
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Post by Novus Dis on May 28, 2008 1:54:58 GMT -5
Because thats where Muslims were murdered. There is also one for Serbs. Do you even know what happened in Visegrad or are you just talking out of your ass. I was making fun of the blatant propaganda. Just one problem though, IT NEVER HAPPENED! Stop equating guilt, you can't compare the two. In Bosnia there were victims and there were the Agressors which were the Serbs who were led by Milosevic and Karadzic. You can't compare individual crimes to a systematic campaign to eliminate and remove all non Serbs from the rs. Bosnians and Croats and many serbs had different goals than the facists who were led by belgrade government and who were formenting hate among the people. So when Milosevic put a trade embargo on Republika Srpska in 1994 he was actually ordering them to be fascistic and when Mladic surrounded Banja Luka with Tanks in the same year he was simply inviting Karadzic to diner. That makes sense... to a Balija and other groups of idiots. You do a disservice to real Serbs by lying and supporting killers and criminals. A real Serb would never betray his own like a Balija would.
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Post by maki on May 29, 2008 4:55:36 GMT -5
Can you provide me with the link please?
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 29, 2008 6:27:36 GMT -5
Sve je to lose sto su ljudi poginuli, ali i vi brate pretjeravate sa ovim topicama ko je gdje i kako umro... Zar vam nije vise dosadila ova politika?
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Post by Novus Dis on May 29, 2008 7:18:07 GMT -5
Sve je to lose sto su ljudi poginuli, ali i vi brate pretjeravate sa ovim topicama ko je gdje i kako umro... Zar vam nije vise dosadila ova politika? When Balijas politicize deaths then its a small step from mourning to a political debate.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 29, 2008 8:01:49 GMT -5
ma isti smo svi mi, nisu oni nista gori od nas, i mi imamo svoju politiku... Samo sto se tice glupih korisnika na ovom forumu Pickola i Terror su pacienti pravi to ne moze ni bog ni allah da izlijec!!!
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Post by Novus Dis on May 29, 2008 8:12:40 GMT -5
ma isti smo svi mi, nisu oni nista gori od nas, i mi imamo svoju politiku... Samo sto se tice glupih korisnika na ovom forumu Pickola i Terror su pacienti pravi to ne moze ni bog ni allah da izlijec!!! When someone refers to the soldiers who defended the Serb people (me and my family included) as "the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor" then you will be damn sure that I will not remain silent. I am not defending the war profiteers and marauders but it is downright evil to smear the name of all Serb soldiers and Serbdom because of the actions of a few.
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Post by kasso on May 29, 2008 8:25:50 GMT -5
R.I.P. to the victims and my condolences to the relatives
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 29, 2008 9:06:55 GMT -5
ma isti smo svi mi, nisu oni nista gori od nas, i mi imamo svoju politiku... Samo sto se tice glupih korisnika na ovom forumu Pickola i Terror su pacienti pravi to ne moze ni bog ni allah da izlijec!!! When someone refers to the soldiers who defended the Serb people (me and my family included) as "the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor" then you will be d*mn sure that I will not remain silent. I am not defending the war profiteers and marauders but it is downright evil to smear the name of all Serb soldiers and Serbdom because of the actions of a few. I know what u mean, i also have relatives who were soldiers... My uncle was VRS soldier,
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Post by niquetamere on May 29, 2008 11:31:20 GMT -5
By all means everyone normal knows not every Serbian soldier wanted to rape, pillage and mass murder Bosniacs and Croats. If you compare who created a bigger mess, its definately VRS. This is a plain ass fact and I know it sucks for Serbs but what can we do. Bosniacs lost the most in this war. I'm not demeaning the Serbian victims by any means. War is not kind to anybody and everyone is a loser, some more than others.
This is what happened when an army lets anyone fight, anyone from criminals, to rapists and mentally challenged people that are blood hungry. The same goes for Arabic mercenariness that committed crimes against Serbs during the war in BiH.
I had a Serb try to kill me while another Serb was treating my wounds. I know whats bulls**t and what isnt. You guys talk about what happened to Serbs in Visegrad yet you forgot what Draza's cetniks did to Bosniac population in Foca and eastern Bosnia.
Was there a rape camp setup by Bosniacs in WW2 by any chance? No, there wasn't, which is much different what happened in the last war.
Vilina Vlas - Visegrad
Vilina Vlas is a health spa located about seven kilometres north-east of Višegrad (Bosnia and Herzegovina), on the way to Gorazde, which gained notoriety as a concentration and rape camp during the Bosnian War.
n 1992 the concentration and rape camp at the Vilina Vlas hotel was one of the Višegrad area's main detention facilities. It was established by the Uzice Corps in the end of April 1992 and played a significant role in the ethnic cleansing of the area's non-Serb population.
The Bosnian Serb warlord Milan Lukić and several volunteer regiments soldiers interrogated and tortured prisoners and raped hundreds of Bosnian Muslim women and girls. Muslim women were detained for purposes of rape and the hotel served as a camp "brothel". Women were brought to the camp by police officers, members of the White Eagles paramilitary group and militia.
Vilina Vlas was known as a place where young, beautiful women were detained and in testimony given to the Bassiouni Commission (the UN Commission of Experts Established Pursuant to Security Council Resolution 780 (1992)) it is claimed that women brought to this camp had been chosen to bear "Cetnik" children and were "selected" carefully. Many of the women were killed while others were exiled, became insane or committed suicide. Bosnian Muslim men and boys were also murdered at the hotel. A group of abductees from the village of Sjeverin were held hostage at the hotel before being killed.[2]
The camp was eventually closed and the detainees removed to an unknown destination after its existence became known outside Bosnia.
The camp's existence has been corroborated by multiple sources, including Amnesty International. Some of the atrocities perpetrated at Vilina Vlas are recorded in Annex VIII of the Bassiouni Report (Final Report of the Commission of Experts Established Pursuant to Security Council Resolution 780 (1992), United Nations Security Council S/1994/674 - 27 May 1994) and documented at the International Human Rights Law Institute of De Paul University, Chicago.
Dusko Andric, the alleged wartime director of the Vilina Vlas Hotel, was living as a pensioner in Visegrad in November 2000. ICG Balkans Report N° 103
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Post by theblackswans on May 29, 2008 15:09:34 GMT -5
ma isti smo svi mi, nisu oni nista gori od nas, i mi imamo svoju politiku... Samo sto se tice glupih korisnika na ovom forumu Pickola i Terror su pacienti pravi to ne moze ni bog ni allah da izlijec!!! When someone refers to the soldiers who defended the Serb people (me and my family included) as "the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor" then you will be d*mn sure that I will not remain silent. I am not defending the war profiteers and marauders but it is downright evil to smear the name of all Serb soldiers and Serbdom because of the actions of a few. I agree that all Serbs and even soldiers shouldn't be painted with the same brush, however your talk of serbdom in Bosnia is based upon crimes, 1)rape used as a weapon of war 2)indescriminate killing of women, children and elderly as well as prisoners of war 3)as well as systematic killing of political, social and community leaders of non Serbs. Your serbdom in Bosnia is based on committing crimes against those who are not serbs as well as serbs who stood against the crimes and war profiteers and maruaders. You cant say that you are against it when you needed those people to create the situation you fought for and wanted. Stop defending the criminals and murderers and support the rule of law and you won't all be painted with the same brush.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 29, 2008 18:45:03 GMT -5
By all means everyone normal knows not every Serbian soldier wanted to rape, pillage and mass murder Bosniacs and Croats. If you compare who created a bigger mess, its definately VRS. This is a plain ass fact and I know it sucks for Serbs but what can we do. Bosniacs lost the most in this war. I'm not demeaning the Serbian victims by any means. War is not kind to anybody and everyone is a loser, some more than others. This is what happened when an army lets anyone fight, anyone from criminals, to rapists and mentally challenged people that are blood hungry. The same goes for Arabic mercenariness that committed crimes against Serbs during the war in BiH. I had a Serb try to kill me while another Serb was treating my wounds. I know whats bulls**t and what isnt. You guys talk about what happened to Serbs in Visegrad yet you forgot what Draza's cetniks did to Bosniac population in Foca and eastern Bosnia. Was there a rape camp setup by Bosniacs in WW2 by any chance? No, there wasn't, which is much different what happened in the last war. Vilina Vlas - VisegradVilina Vlas is a health spa located about seven kilometres north-east of Višegrad (Bosnia and Herzegovina), on the way to Gorazde, which gained notoriety as a concentration and rape camp during the Bosnian War. n 1992 the concentration and rape camp at the Vilina Vlas hotel was one of the Višegrad area's main detention facilities. It was established by the Uzice Corps in the end of April 1992 and played a significant role in the ethnic cleansing of the area's non-Serb population. The Bosnian Serb warlord Milan Lukić and several volunteer regiments soldiers interrogated and tortured prisoners and raped hundreds of Bosnian Muslim women and girls. Muslim women were detained for purposes of rape and the hotel served as a camp "brothel". Women were brought to the camp by police officers, members of the White Eagles paramilitary group and militia. Vilina Vlas was known as a place where young, beautiful women were detained and in testimony given to the Bassiouni Commission (the UN Commission of Experts Established Pursuant to Security Council Resolution 780 (1992)) it is claimed that women brought to this camp had been chosen to bear "Cetnik" children and were "selected" carefully. Many of the women were killed while others were exiled, became insane or committed suicide. Bosnian Muslim men and boys were also murdered at the hotel. A group of abductees from the village of Sjeverin were held hostage at the hotel before being killed.[2]The camp was eventually closed and the detainees removed to an unknown destination after its existence became known outside Bosnia. The camp's existence has been corroborated by multiple sources, including Amnesty International. Some of the atrocities perpetrated at Vilina Vlas are recorded in Annex VIII of the Bassiouni Report (Final Report of the Commission of Experts Established Pursuant to Security Council Resolution 780 (1992), United Nations Security Council S/1994/674 - 27 May 1994) and documented at the International Human Rights Law Institute of De Paul University, Chicago. Dusko Andric, the alleged wartime director of the Vilina Vlas Hotel, was living as a pensioner in Visegrad in November 2000. ICG Balkans Report N° 103 Propaganda. Prove it or it didn’t happen. I agree that all Serbs and even soldiers shouldn't be painted with the same brush, however your talk of serbdom in Bosnia is based upon crimes, 1)rape used as a weapon of war 2)indescriminate killing of women, children and elderly as well as prisoners of war 3)as well as systematic killing of political, social and community leaders of non Serbs. Your serbdom in Bosnia is based on committing crimes against those who are not serbs as well as serbs who stood against the crimes and war profiteers and maruaders. You cant say that you are against it when you needed those people to create the situation you fought for and wanted. Stop defending the criminals and murderers and support the rule of law and you won't all be painted with the same brush. So I guess all Muslims are like Oric and his rapists/murderers? Serbdom has nothing to do with killing. Unlike your precious Islam it does mean taking a stand against all foreign occupants.
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