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Post by julius on Apr 8, 2008 0:26:30 GMT -5
For albanians it will be for not recognising Kosova. There are a lot of greek banks there too.
Also u have already the "previous judgment" with FYROM remember? 200 km are way too much. And u know the difference: first hand merchandise with second hand. Includes more money.
where my thoughts included eurofighters? Maybe u just like to mention them.
Yes, experience is talking, not practicing.
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Post by slowdent on Apr 8, 2008 2:42:09 GMT -5
julius you serious? how is an albanian going to boycott a Bank? stop paying installments? he will finish in jail not get a credit card? so what? the bank will find another way to get money out of alb pockets. it has always been like that in any country in the world...... I remember the bank of Greece buying the biggest bank of Fyrom. I also remember that the Greek refineries bought the fyrom refineries.is that the previous judgement you refer to? what you do not understand and probably never will is the "European trade space". once in EU any merchandise can move in any country. and to go back to your example: the bulgarian importer can bring the turkish product directly to greece. even if he decides to use a mediator, the price tag cannot be too high cos the free market imposes competition that keeps prices to a certain level. Lets say that the price tag on a eurofighter has much more "0" than the rest of your thoughts. and in this world what counts is $$$. the more you have the better it is. experience is the keyword. and you like it.
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Post by julius on Apr 8, 2008 13:30:43 GMT -5
well, just to follow your naive way of talking he is going to rob it. On a more serious note: press articles on negative reports that greek banks are going bankrupt. That was enough to start a crisis in America on late 30'. The banks are depended from the amount of cash going in and out. Any state can deal with some banks...piece of cake.
No unfortunately for u, I remember the embrago u put on those guys as a precedent. As the precedent u asked before. Check ur posts. It happens also to remember that the embargo damaged more u than them. what are greeks earning now is to be seen. Maybe the way fyromians will deal with greek companies after the veto will give me too some ideas.
Seems to me that greeks themselves cant understand either "the europian trade space" even within Greece. Bcse they cant find who is the speculator of some daily products. who is speculating? The producers or the mediators? why are the prices going high? U can see this on tv windows all day long. They just cant find that sucker who is speculating about the prices and also is questioning your theory.
If a small crisis happens the price of products will get high( lets say a small event in some forgotten island), lack of security. And then we'll see how fair the bulgarian mediator will be. If turks decide to monopolize and negotiate with not any mediator, lets see how "cheap" the price will be. Greece this way becomes not some place of passing through but a final destination of products. If their intention is to harm they will do so.
wrong. Its more important how u use that money u have. i hope u keep this information confidential though...I really dont want some common greeks to know that their state is spending money on eurofighters while they are daily-fighters. Do u tango?
Trying to privatize those ports = lack of money. eurofighters = u are sh!ting on ur pants. Its an obligation.
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 8, 2008 14:55:27 GMT -5
Julius..... maybe you shouldn't be in Greece..if you hate the place so much.... you're about as anti-Greek as the rest of your kind....
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Post by julius on Apr 8, 2008 15:16:28 GMT -5
U are wrong Kanaris. Liking u doesn't mean licking u, nor praising u. If u followed my thoughts u would understand that all im doing here is convincing these guys politics can harm. The first thing I came and said here was "when u guys are going to recognize Kosova?" They turned me down. Im describing here what can happen. U dont like it, its obvious. what i dont like is Greece not recognizing Kosova. Its pretty clear, isn't it? What did I do wrong?
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 8, 2008 16:40:31 GMT -5
We don't have to lick you either..... so we are going to stick to this to the end.... besides we are not the only ones that haven't recognized Kosovo....
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Post by julius on Apr 9, 2008 3:34:58 GMT -5
We agree on no licking. Thats for cats. U are not the only one not recognizing Kosova, but u are the only one whom I care of recognizing our little sister. A little piece of art:
"Me ke thene qe pa shtrire Se do me merrje grua Te kam thene po sje e mire Prandaj fle me mua."
"U have told me before we lay That were going to marry me Yes but u are no good Because u slept with me".
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Post by slowdent on Apr 9, 2008 3:47:53 GMT -5
monopoly online. the bank is not sth opening in kossovo and only there. it can pump money from other sources. even if a bank decides to leave kossovo, it will keep its rights and a platform for investments through another bank (joint ventures). happens everywhere in the world. When the bank of Greece bought a bank in Turkey there was a negative public opinion . Although the this and the red numbers in the beginning, now it is profitable.
I am not surprised.
too many "will's" and "if's" mr president of kosovo.
yes you do. throughout europe the people suffering are the retired ones who see their pension stable and the prices going up (check the ages of the people in the windows). the same thing - to a greater extent -happens in italy and france.
it is called free market dude. keep looking for the speculator with petrol at $110 the barrel and if you find him, tell him to drop the prices. after that, see how long it will take him to stop laughing
once again you are speaking with sid meyers civilisation terms. what happens here is not embargo or rerouting things from turkey to avoid Greece. It is sending things from turkey to the EU. there is no big deal from where they will enter.
i Greece we say."exei kai allou portokalies.."
wow. social message of julius. received. a propo of the bad situation and daily fighters: if it is that bad, why are you sill in Greece? go to the prosperous turkey. there is a train connection everyday from Athens
Nein..... privatizing ports= obligation to the eu. the philosophy is to minimise the state. it happened everywhere: Germany, Italy, France.
the only obligation is to keep the military uptodate cos of our very friendly neighbors. Thats what will happen to kossovo in a while when they will put you in competition with your "bad"neigbours. but appart from that it is a good diplomacy lever. like it or not.
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Post by Kassandros on Apr 9, 2008 21:33:36 GMT -5
Julius "In this topic more or less u are saying that US can fail and Greece cannot. If this makes sense to you...what can I say?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes. I believe that Iraqis now and Vietnamese thing the same with me.. Julius I told you before; US its a big power.. but their plans have many alternatives when it comes. Afterall dont forget that they make plans for other countries. On the contrary, our plans have not many alternatives because he speak about OUR country. We not have the option like Americans... to leave. We're here to stay here. We dont have the option to pull out our troops.. we dont have a safe land far away so we can go there. So, as you understand, the one who fights for his idea and has NO options is the one that survives. Its like we say.. "min kollas tin gata ston toixo. Den that treksei. Tha sou epitethei" Americans play their games. If they see that a plan does not come out or a plan has a lot of sucrifies... they changed it to a different one. That is how US policy works. Its not about win and loose for them. They will win in both cases. The co-winner is that changes. For example.. if Belgium attacks Fyrom today... conquers Fyrom... and gives Americans all the rights to have their military bases for ever or do whaever they want on that piece of land... Americans will start being pro-Belgian . They care for their interests in an area. They dont care WHO is gonna give them what they want. To explain it different to you; American wants a Great Albania for many reasons: To control Serbs and Russian in Balkans, to have secure energy pipes through Balkans, to increase the Islamic and American element inside European soil so as to make Europe work in with disfanction. Lets say Greece starts a war with Albania. For sure Americans will support Albania and will start a war with Greeks. Lets say 1000 Americans soldiers die... they will continue helping Albania. Now... if Greece says... there is no need for American soldiers to die..... Greece will conquer Albania... Greece will get out of EU and become pro-US and Greece will allow you to do whatever you want to do in Albania. That will be the end of war and suddenly Americans will become so pro-Greeks that you could not believe. That is how US works. Its unbelievable unethical country (especially their best friend UK)... and you believe they're your powerfull friends..
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 9, 2008 21:38:59 GMT -5
Julius "In this topic more or less u are saying that US can fail and Greece cannot. If this makes sense to you...what can I say?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes. I believe that Iraqis now and Vietnamese thing the same with me.. Julius I told you before; US its a big power.. but their plans have many alternatives when it comes. Afterall dont forget that they make plans for other countries. On the contrary, our plans have not many alternatives because he speak about OUR country. We not have the option like Americans... to leave. We're here to stay here. We dont have the option to pull out our troops.. we dont have a safe land far away so we can go there. So, as you understand, the one who fights for his idea and has NO options is the one that survives. Its like we say.. "min kollas tin gata ston toixo. Den that treksei. Tha sou epitethei" Americans play their games. If they see that a plan does not come out or a plan has a lot of sucrifies... they changed it to a different one. That is how US policy works. Its not about win and loose for them. They will win in both cases. The co-winner is that changes. For example.. if Belgium attacks Fyrom today... conquers Fyrom... and gives Americans all the rights to have their military bases for ever or do whaever they want on that piece of land... Americans will start being pro-Belgian . They care for their interests in an area. They dont care WHO is gonna give them what they want. To explain it different to you; American wants a Great Albania for many reasons: To control Serbs and Russian in Balkans, to have secure energy pipes through Balkans, to increase the Islamic and American element inside European soil so as to make Europe work in with disfanction. Lets say Greece starts a war with Albania. For sure Americans will support Albania and will start a war with Greeks. Lets say 1000 Americans soldiers die... they will continue helping Albania. Now... if Greece says... there is no need for American soldiers to die..... Greece will conquer Albania... Greece will get out of EU and become pro-US and Greece will allow you to do whatever you want to do in Albania. That will be the end of war and suddenly Americans will become so pro-Greeks that you could not believe. That is how US works. Its unbelievable unethical country (especially their best friend UK)... and you believe they're your powerfull friends.. Dude, I am American. AMERICANS DONT know a thing about Albania. Albania could dissapear from a map tommorrow and not one American would even realize it. The politicians thats another story. And by the way, I think the politicians are very pro Greece. Looking at the situation of the world today, any country that tried to invade Greece I think America would be right there in line with Greece with the GUNS.
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Post by Kassandros on Apr 9, 2008 21:48:32 GMT -5
Like it was in Cyprous? Panagiotopoule... we shaw who Americans are. Greece was their ally for ever. In WW2 we sucrified 1/6 of our population against Nazi. We could have stayed neutral as many small countries (holland, Belgium, Louxembourg) and as many big countries (Turkey).. without any casoualties. Look at them now... they support all the former Nazi allies like Albania and Fyrom and all the neutral ones like Turkey. It doesn worth to deal with them. No besa..
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 9, 2008 22:18:02 GMT -5
AMERICA IS A COLONY OF GREECE. Hi I live here. America loves you and so do Greek Americans.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 9, 2008 23:20:31 GMT -5
^^lol Kinda funny, some rednecks bear names like Odysseus or Hermes
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Post by terroreign on Apr 9, 2008 23:47:16 GMT -5
Whoa hold your horses Ares, you misunderstood me.
When I said "rednecks" I was referring to Americans from the South(Georgia, Alabama, ect), who are NOT greek, but of completely northern european-slavedriver ancestry
And they name their kids greek names, like Ulysseus or Achilles
And I'm not half anything, don't worry about that.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 9, 2008 23:56:01 GMT -5
OOOOOHHHHH...... OKAY. I love jumping the gun on that kind of stuff. It is so fun to jump down somebodies throat for being anti American. I know so many people who insult the president or this country and you jump on their case and tell them to leave then and they like crap themselves. Its so funny. I don't know Terro, from your love of Albanians it makes me kind of wonder? Maybe an Albanian father and Montenegrin mother? Are you sure?
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Post by terroreign on Apr 10, 2008 0:00:23 GMT -5
haha yes that gets them every time
I have no reason to hate them, and many to love them, so why do you wonder?
Both parents are montenegrin, and are quite neutral when it comes to albanians, I on the other hand know our history and know we have been friends, despite what Serbia says.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 10, 2008 0:13:55 GMT -5
haha yes that gets them every time I have no reason to hate them, and many to love them, so why do you wonder? Both parents are montenegrin, and are quite neutral when it comes to albanians, I on the other hand know our history and know we have been friends, despite what Serbia says. Then stop busting the Greeks balls because you have no reason to hate them either.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 10, 2008 0:37:42 GMT -5
I dont agree with what you're doing to Fyrom
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 10, 2008 0:58:59 GMT -5
I dont agree with what you're doing to Fyrom Oh... I am sorry you feel that way. In what way is Greece in the wrong to protect its history and name? How would you feel if these Fyromians started calling themselves Montenegrins and started telling you that you were not really Montenegrin but a Christian Turk?
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Post by terroreign on Apr 10, 2008 1:14:22 GMT -5
It can protect its history, but a name of one of its municipalities is not copyrighted
Totally different story, that would be as if the Fyromians are directly calling their country Hellas, and themselves Hellens. This isnt the case
They call themselves Makedonci, slavic for Macedonians
Its like some people calling themselves "Zecani"(A region in Montenegro), I mean, it might piss me off, but it wouldnt drive me to veto them out of existance.
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