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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 4, 2008 16:42:49 GMT -5
talking about ancient hats, lets be serious guys and gals... kausia??? yauna takabara??? greeks wearing sunhats??? anyone???
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 4, 2008 16:43:52 GMT -5
btw...kausia,from kauson=summer heat in greek... ;D
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Post by rex362 on Mar 4, 2008 16:43:53 GMT -5
sun hats are gay ....and oriental style
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 4, 2008 16:50:20 GMT -5
the persians ,rexy, called ancient macedonians yauna takabara...
yauna in persian,yavan in hebrew,yunan in arabic and turkish=greeks...
a word which derives from the ancient greek word ionia=western asia minor.
ionia became yunania...
from yunania,yunan=greek
yauna takabara,meaning the greeks wearing sunhats...
they were reffering to the macedonian sunhat...
which was called kausia...
kausia,from kausos or kauson,meaning summerheat...
btw,we still use this word today...
a greek word,obviously...
and that's a history lesson,trully...
having nothing to do with plis mythology...
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 4, 2008 16:58:17 GMT -5
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Post by Niklianos on Mar 4, 2008 17:04:47 GMT -5
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 4, 2008 17:35:32 GMT -5
so,the plis does have a greek origin after all...it was brought to central asia by Alexander's army...pakis etc took it from macedonians...and through islam it reached albania...
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Post by terroreign on Mar 4, 2008 17:42:54 GMT -5
wow you greeks must be proud, you created a hat that now only pakis and afghans wear
too bad you didn't patent it....you could of made maybe 3 cents....
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Post by rex362 on Mar 4, 2008 18:23:30 GMT -5
the persians ,rexy, called ancient macedonians yauna takabara...yauna in persian,yavan in hebrew,yunan in arabic and turkish=greeks... a word which derives from the ancient greek word ionia=western asia minor. ionia became yunania... from yunania,yunan=greek yauna takabara,meaning the greeks wearing sunhats... they were reffering to the macedonian sunhat... which was called kausia... kausia,from kausos or kauson,meaning summerheat... btw,we still use this word today... a greek word,obviously... and that's a history lesson,trully... having nothing to do with plis mythology... NO ...It just means you are the Persians ......see what happens when you dont recognise Kosova ....ehhehhehe be careful bcs Rexxy is on the prowl and my wits are working overtime this week
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Post by rex362 on Mar 4, 2008 18:27:22 GMT -5
from another post of mine .... you non Albanian never seen or touched a plis hat ...its on the thick side .. my a$$umption is that we wore these hats as padding under warrior helmets ...and then when these warriors were retired from duty they wore only the cap as civilians to show and bloat proudly their past warriorism .....and as a sign of respect from others .... this hat is worn today by Albanians ...mostly the Dardanians(kosovars) and then us in Macedonia and in sections of Albania. and in my honest opinion .... Greeks of today do not wear em or have worn em in many many hundreds and maybe even 1500 years bcs they have no recollection of it bcs they are not in the times of any warriors of the ancient balkans ......sorry to break the news this way
The Romans used our hat as a symbol of a free people (Illyrian) or lLiberty/freedom gained the plis in right hand
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Post by Kastorianos on Mar 4, 2008 19:33:01 GMT -5
Very interesting. Makedonia is Greek!
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Post by kartadolofonos on Mar 4, 2008 21:08:38 GMT -5
On the mountainsides of the Himalayas and the Indian Caucasus and under Pakistani and Afghanistan jurisdiction lives a tribe whose people call themselves Kalas(h).Kalas actually is a Greek name of a vessel filled with water for worship. They claim to be the descendants of Alexander the Great's soldiers who for various reasons were left behind in the depths of Asia and could not follow the Great General in his new conquests. Having no contact with the outside world for almost 23 centuries, they are quite different from any other neighboring nations. Light complexioned, and blue eyed in the midst of dark skinned neighbors, their language, even though it has been affected and influenced by the many Muslim languages of nations that surround the Kalash tribe, still incorporates vocabulary and has many elements of the ancient Dorian Greek language. They greet their visitors with "ispanta" from the Greek verb "aspazome" (greetings)and they warn them about "heman" from the ancient Greek noun "hemon"(winter). These indigenous people still believe in the twelve Olympian gods and especially Di Zau [Dias Zeus], the great sky god,but also Aphrodite, Hestia, and Apollo.Their language is principally a mixture of Sanskrit and Greek. They grow grapes and make wine (an illegal action in an Islamic country) and their diet is rich in fruits, vegetables and nuts. Unlike their neighbors who sit on the ground, they use stools and chairs and their carpentry is decorated with Macedonian stars and "suns".Other remnants of the ancient Greek influence in the area are the characteristic "double-hat" or kausia, the ancient Macedonian hat,the Macedonian cloak used to be worn by the men and as worn by most women today and the polo on horseback, Pakistan's national sport. It was practiced by the Macedonian troops in the days of Alexander due to an unusual "present" given to Alexander by the great Persian king Darius. Also their architecture resembles very much the Macedonian architecture.Recently, a group of Greek teachers and a group of Greeks called"the friends of the kalash" have been raising money and spending their summer working among the Kalash for the last 7 years in an attempt to improve their standard of living. Some of the projects that the teacher volunteers have accomplished include the following: a primary school at an elevation of some 3 km, which is regarded the largest and best primary school building in Pakistan; water pipes for the supply of running water; a house for new mothers; landscaping and providing resource materials and pharmaceutical supplies, the purchase tractors and other farming equipment. In this way the volunteers have contributed immensely to the preservation of the Kalash.The Kalas are important to the Greeks anthropologically because they are the closest examples of how the ancient Greeks lived.The Kalamaria municipality is currently hosting twelve children from the Kalash tribe aged 9-17, while it intends to adopt most of the total 30 tribal settlements and build a classical Greek-architecture building there to serve as a cultural centre, which will be named Thessaloniki, after Alexander's sister.The Kalas around a 100 years ago numbered close to 100,000 but now the number is around 3,000 living in 30 villages in the valley of Chetral. Their population has been dwindled Over the years due to ethnic cleasing and forced Islamazation. Their arable land is small and much of it has been taken away by the stronger Muslim communities around them.
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 5, 2008 9:25:10 GMT -5
wow!!!the similarity is astonishing!!!
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 5, 2008 16:42:28 GMT -5
Oraia paidia
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Post by Kassandros on Mar 5, 2008 17:07:09 GMT -5
You only say "wow" for his hat?? Loot at his face!! In the middle of the mountains of Pakistan.... nothing Arabic on it, nothing Slavic on it, nothing Indian on it......pure Macedonian face. 90% of my village youths have same characteristks! "Kserakianoi" is called. Its unbeliavable. Like Serres being neighboring Pakistan.. What more???!!
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 5, 2008 17:37:37 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KausiaA kausia was a flat Macedonian hat which was worn during the Hellenistic period, and was also use in lion hunting. Depictions of the kausia can be found on a variety of coins, from the Mediterranean to the Indo-Greek kingdom in northern India.
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 5, 2008 17:41:49 GMT -5
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Post by Kassandros on Mar 5, 2008 18:09:31 GMT -5
I think I saw that boy playing outside my village in Serres..
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