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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 9, 2008 23:35:44 GMT -5
Slavic toponyms wouldnt bode well for Greece either, since it was filled with place names until the Greek govt changed theml to Greek. The Pelopenese itself was engulfed in Slavic placenames. Nevermind Macedonia and parts of Epirus. I dont want to waste too much time in this topic, since its a rehash of discussions that simply do not end. I could post more, but I dont want to get carpal tunnel.
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 9, 2008 23:44:31 GMT -5
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 9, 2008 23:47:08 GMT -5
Dont worry, you can continue. I was making a short comment: Slavic settlements in Albania would bode just as well for Greeks.
You can continue, I bet you have much more available to copy and paste.
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 9, 2008 23:51:24 GMT -5
""""Namely, in that area there is not one single toponym whose origin could be found in the Albanian language. All of the toponyms in that area which in historical literature was designated as Old Serbia are either Serbian or Slavicised Roman names and the Shiptars who live there today call some villages either by names translated into Albanian or use some Turkish names arising from the time when these regions were under Turkish rule.
This unique and indisputable fact that there are no Albanian toponyms in Kosovo and Metohia evidently does not fit in with the numerous demands, statements and wishes of the secessionist parties and chauvinistic Shiptars and Albanians because they have always constantly avoided this theme. """"
Yep corespondents to what I have pointed out previously.
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 9, 2008 23:53:51 GMT -5
Melty i was expecting some defending or rebuttal but am not amazed you weren't able to. You know why right ?
Be brave melty, be brave.
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Post by meltdown711 on Jan 10, 2008 0:01:48 GMT -5
I want to make it clear to you, because I will not reply to this topic anymore:
I have chosen to ignore this along with a list of other topics that I have blacklisted in my head. These are topics are have been done over and over and over again in the last 4 years that I have been here. So, in order to save my fingers and a lot of mental stress getting sources and more sources to pounce all you little children here copying and posting from different biased websites(in Novi's case,a pro-Serb Kosova site), I have chosen to ignore these particular topics. Among these topics are: Albanian-Illyrian topics, Scanderbeg's ethnicity topics, southern Albania topics. These and a number of others. I simply cannot tire myself and cant bare to waste anymore of my time. I have had many intelligent discussions on this, but the website lacks those intelligent people anymore.
Im tired and will not be drawn into these futile discussions. I have to draw the line somewhere and I drew it a long time ago. I know for myself the reality as does general academia, a couple of barely-literate Illyria forum children will only satisfy themselves.
So dont bother making any post directed at me in this topic: I will not be looking here anymore. Truth be told, I consider myself intellectually above 85% of the people in this forum. I barely see the need to even reply to most of you, let alone treat you as academic equals.
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 10, 2008 0:11:09 GMT -5
Good ..then we have an understanding.... I knew you would end up seeing it this way.... good for you.. +1 Melty.
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Post by slowdent on Jan 10, 2008 5:08:10 GMT -5
said the guy who wrote 253 words just to avoid admitting that he has no more arguments.....
Melt scores once again
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 10, 2008 8:14:57 GMT -5
You're going into deep water, Melty. This forum is full of idiots, but I don't think you should look down at those you feel are underneath you. Those who are arrogant due to their ignorance need to be mocked, belittled, insulted, spit on and if encountered in real life, possibly slightly beaten; but you should never feel yourself above them. Afterall, if you as a future academic do not take your time to edify those who are less than you, then there will be little purpose to your noble intellectual title.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 10, 2008 8:59:52 GMT -5
Still solves nothing so therefore Montenegro's are closest racially to Illyrians according to most historians...And not the Albanians. History belongs to those who create it not who currently occupy some lands that were inhibited by others once. Oh Well which are those most historians idiot some historians when claim that montengrins are illyrians they based on Albanian (Arbanasi-Arbanitet) origin of them...most montengrins tribes have same roots with North Albanians and Kosova Albanians...but when you know since you are posting fake articles from hajduke (while he claim greeks are serbs origin) But fact is that most historians dont accept origin of greeks from ancient greeks...they you call turks, semitic, armenians, vlachs, Albanians, Slavs, ethopian, egypt-arabs ect...hehe even funny those fake modern greeks re-found Athens in 1790 ;D ;D and claimed that are greeks origin
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Post by slowdent on Jan 10, 2008 9:49:05 GMT -5
like who?
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 10, 2008 11:24:16 GMT -5
Anittas.... are you one of those idiots..or do you place yourself side by side with our in house intellectual Melty? I figure there's people that are intelligent and witty at the same time..and there's people that read a lot.... and then they read some more..you can spot them very easily... Melty is a reader....
Donnie and Bibleriot are pretty smart guys.... you can tell by the way they write and handle themselves during a conversation..so are some of the others here..everyone has his qualities, no one is an idiot... unless they want to classify themselves as one...then, I won't stand in there way. Even Albhoney.. has her qualities.. although I still think she needs to boost her meds when she visits the site.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 10, 2008 11:39:25 GMT -5
uhhh ......DIjedon and BR get their stuff from me and they handle well bcs of the goats milk recipe I sent them
btw wheres APPOLON he was in that category also..
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 10, 2008 23:51:05 GMT -5
Well melty you still have your chance for a come back. And talk about thievery “you posted else where” like you just invented it Looks like it's gonna be a " Kettle calling the other kettle black syndrome " When you accuse the original inhabitants of thievery whilst you can't refute any proves and Troll at other topics. Is that face of inteligence HA HA HA
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Post by Arxileas on Jan 11, 2008 0:11:09 GMT -5
ABOUT THE KOMAN GROUP THEORY:THE ILLYRIANS BY DR.WILKES OF LONDON . Wilkes is the foremost living authority on the Illyrians. Yet his work only attempts to identify the Illyrians not only as Albanian but Bosnian as well as Southern Slavic. This information broadens the already established fact that the Illyrians left linguistic and genetic traces all over the balkans but also puts to rest the ALBANIAN MONOPOLY ON ILLYRIAN CULTURAL ROOTS. THE KOMAN GROUP THEORY BECOMES A MOOT POINT. His is the latest comprehensive work on the Illyrian people. In his book, "The Illyrians", John Wilkes states on pg: 219: "NOT MUCH RELIANCE SHOULD PERHAPS BE PLACED ON ATTEMPTS TO IDENTIFY AN ILLYRIAN ANTHROPOLOGICAL TYPE AS SHORTER AND DARKER SKINNED SIMMILAR TO MODERN ALBANIANS."
Wilkes has only proven through science when the Human Genome Project's Y-chromosome study of European populations, confirmed that the vast majority of contemporary Albanians do not share an Illyrian or any Indo-European linneage.
John Wilkes correctly puts small percentages of Illyrian descendants among contemporary Southern Slavs, centered around Montenegro and Bosnia and branching out into Dalmatia and south-western Serbia. Wilkes hints that the remenants are slavicized Illyrians and he leans on C.S Coon who insists that Albanians are of mixed Slavic, Italian,Turkish, Armenoid and Illyrian origin.
This work was published in 1991 and based on the newest excavations undertaken in ex-Illyria. Wilkes brings out plenty of the most recent archaeological and anthropological evidence which other's in his field did not have access to.
Ten years after he published this work, the Human Genome Project's Y-chromosome study proved him correct. Modern science has dealt a huge blow to Albanian attempts to usurpe the Illyrian legacy. He was a decade ahead of his time. Because of his work, many academics within Albania have also come out in favour of accepting the new findings; namely: Kaplan Resuli, Fatos Lubonja, Ardian Qosi and Ardian Vebiu. They are joined by many international critics of the now debunked Albanian-Illyrian theory: Paul, Hirt, Weigand, Tomashek, Georgiev, Pushcariu and many others.
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Post by albanesehoney on Jan 11, 2008 0:29:06 GMT -5
Ten years after he published this work, the Human Genome Project's Y-chromosome study proved him correct. [
Link? Otherwise, don't try to sell your lies. Even greeks know how Sforza and his team proved the genetic - linguistic link of the Albanians to the Pelasgians-prehistoric Anatolian migrations to Albania. We even have the artifacts to prove it.
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Post by jerryspringer on Jan 11, 2008 0:39:54 GMT -5
Anittas.... are you one of those idiots..or do you place yourself side by side with our in house intellectual Melty? Hehe, as you probably noticed by my post, I did not include myself in any of those groups that I mentioned. Altough I tend to insult many idiots, I also take the habbit to insult the brighter members, so even there it's difficult to find a pattern. I guess that I would like to be counted as an idiot with a thirst for knowledge, but I'm afraid that many idiots would like to be labeled like that. I just want to be outside the spectrum and observe it; and from time to time, or better say--quite often--engage myself in conversations and give you my input on matters that I find intriguing.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 11, 2008 11:33:56 GMT -5
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jan 11, 2008 11:36:48 GMT -5
do you know history of your country? , there have thausands historians that dont accept your origin of ancient greeks (from 1800 Ceuntry...note: Nation Modern Greek have createt after 1800)
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 11, 2008 13:44:32 GMT -5
What the heck does "thausands" mean?
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