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Post by Kastorianos on May 4, 2009 4:38:39 GMT -5
To afierono stis kiries pou epilegoun ektrosi se ygeii embrya, alla kirios stous kirious pou anagkazoun tis gynaikes tous se tetoia energeia...gia deite
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Post by Kassandros on May 4, 2009 13:23:19 GMT -5
Den to eida olo. Arhisa na frikaro sta prota defterolepta..
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Post by Kastorianos on May 4, 2009 13:29:45 GMT -5
an to deis olo tha dakriseis...
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Post by Kanaris on May 5, 2009 11:46:32 GMT -5
We all agree that it's death.... but sometimes it's a necessay evil... where no other options are available.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 5, 2009 14:02:44 GMT -5
for example?
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Post by albquietman on May 5, 2009 22:28:01 GMT -5
Disturbing video...couldn't see it until the end.
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Post by Kanaris on May 5, 2009 22:44:00 GMT -5
In cases of rape and incest,or where a mothers life is in grave danger.
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Post by monsterofsouli on May 5, 2009 23:32:11 GMT -5
I could not even watch the video. I turned it off almost immediately. Kanaris congrats on your reasoning, though. How can I as someone who is pretty pro life disagree with you when you provide that kind of reasoning. This is my greatest difficulty as someone who is pro life because I know there are special circumstances.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 6, 2009 10:20:01 GMT -5
The case of rape is debatable in my opinion but the rest are special circumstances I agree. In case of incest in my opinion only when its extreme kind of it.....father-daughter...mother-son...brother-sister. Another justified case is if the embryo is verifiable ill.
But I think that the vast majority of abortions is not made in the above called extreme cases....and thats the whole problem.. it has become in our societies a bagatelle...I know cases where women performed an abortion because the child was incompatible with the offspring-concepts of the parents...."2 children and not more"....or because of (often only supposed) economical problems.
I believe that many people do not know what an abortion is and how it is performed (I didnt know it as well untill I saw such videos). And I find discussions whether its life or not ridiculous and impudent. Who are we humans to determine when life beginns...when we did not create it. It is clearly life and thus the people should always be aware of what they are doing when medics perform an abortion on them or their wifes. Its extermination of human life.....and no dram.
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Post by Kassandros on May 6, 2009 13:41:04 GMT -5
I believe that most of the case of abortions in Greece are from 16-19 year old girls... and unfortunately... you cannot have a girl of that age becoming a mother... If that happens.. their lives are waisted. They are just children doing sex for fun. Maternity is something tottaly out of their legaue... and I doubt they could bring up normal members in the society. They're kids...
Of course... on the other hand... Cyrpiots tend to get married and have children young...
I dont know...
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Post by Kastorianos on May 6, 2009 14:00:37 GMT -5
I dont think that you have to become pregnant if you have sex. There is something like contraceptives today and everyone knows of them and everyone can easily get them. We dont live in the middle age anymore.
No, young age is no reason for an abortion. They rather plead their young age in order to justify the abortion...but while they got f.ucked they knew very well what can happen. The same goes for the fathers of course...a minimal risc exists always also with contraceptives. But for gods sake thats the natural purpose of it after all...if the girl gets pregnant...take the responsibility instead of baring someone from being born and living.
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Post by Kassandros on May 6, 2009 14:34:17 GMT -5
A 17 year old boy... drunk after 2 beers.. .and a 17 year old girl...drunk after 1 beer... with hormones dancing into their body.... having sex after a school party or something.... and then... take a responsibility of a ..child?!
But.. they're childs themselves.. Sex starts during 14-15... its a natural situation. It doesnt mean they're ready to become parents.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 6, 2009 14:45:58 GMT -5
there is also a condition before you get drunk...what are you doing there? I dont have any problem if they have sex with 16 but they shall forfend...and this not only because of the risk of pregnancy. And you can never be too young for this kind of sensitization. What are their parents doing? Instead of believing that their kids will marry as virgins they should explain to their kids some things regarding sex.
Vasili in the end its everyones own decision...its his and her problem if they abort...not mine or yours. They shall just be aware of what they are doing when they abort. Just because you are young it doesnt mean that you cannot kill...an the only difference is that their guilt is slighter in comparison to an adult. Nothing more nothing less.
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Post by Kanaris on May 6, 2009 14:49:51 GMT -5
It all starts with the proper education...and the atmosphere at home.
Loser families bring up loser kids... 90% of the time.
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Post by Kassandros on May 7, 2009 16:29:21 GMT -5
Do you believe that today.. in 21st century... where mother and fathers work 10 hours everyday... there families who are not.. losers? I brought up in a house where only father was working.... for 8.. cool... hours in the public sector... and a mother wathing her child. Today, most of the couples I know... they give birth to 1 kid maximum... the kid grows up with a Russian babysitter of a grandmother... father and morther come at house at 9 o'clock at night ready to collapse.. both of them. Who will take care of the child so as to give some advices and stuff like that? The Russian mate.. or the 70 years old granny? Its the English syndrom. Thats why in England there is almost every day a stubbing between 14-15 year old youths. Its a generation that grows up without family.. with a loan and a credit card loan fuc,king their lives.... and thats the result. I believe the future is not very promising for the ones who dont have money or try to create money without finding some from their family... (My case!). I'm 40... I earn a lot... I want to create a lot... and I dont have time even to feed my cat. There is a bill for that... and I will have to pay it if I have children in the future... I say if..
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Post by Kastorianos on May 7, 2009 16:52:18 GMT -5
Dose kana fragko edo stous ftochous an echeis polla...ante.
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Post by Kassandros on May 8, 2009 15:55:16 GMT -5
To polla sxetiko einai.. ypallilos eimai.. oxi afentiko. Apla gia ypallilos einai polla .... osa enas proistamenos sto eksoteriko... afta einai.. oxi tipota trela lefta pou tha arakso se 1-2 hronia.. . gia panta tha doulevo... gamo to kerato mou!!!!!!
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Post by Kastorianos on May 8, 2009 17:24:00 GMT -5
Ase mas re architempelara Ellina, kai ti na to kaneis na kathesai oli mera...i douleia einai kali kai aparaititi ston anthropo...alla esas ekei kato me auti tin nootropia sas megalonoun, o stochos tou anthropou na einai na mi douleuei...giauto thelete na wgainete kai sta 45 se sintaksi...o allos ewgale sintaksi sta 35...ti akoume......kai meta sas kakofainetai pou zeite se gamimeno kratos...
pou na wgazan nomo opos edo na wgaineis se sintaksi sta 67... ;D
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Post by Kassandros on May 9, 2009 2:00:23 GMT -5
Kastorianos "Ase mas re architempelara Ellina, kai ti na to kaneis na kathesai oli mera...i douleia einai kali kai aparaititi ston anthropo...alla esas ekei kato me auti tin nootropia sas megalonoun, o stochos tou anthropou na einai na mi douleuei...giauto thelete na wgainete kai sta 45 se sintaksi...o allos ewgale sintaksi sta 35...ti akoume......kai meta sas kakofainetai pou zeite se gamimeno kratos... pou na wgazan nomo opos edo na wgaineis se sintaksi sta 67..." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mpa? ....1000 pragmata yparhoun na kaneis oli mera... oreksi na eheis! -Kafedaki to proi me efimerida mprosta se ena beach bar -Meta katadyseis gia 2 ores -Meta gymnstirio -Meta fagito kai mesimeriano ypno -Meta to apogevma psilodoulitses kai gymnastirio -Vradaki, ekdodos me "morakia" untill late at night.. eides?! Mporo na sou ftiakso programma gia oli mera kai pou den tha skouriazeis.. lol lol Me mia teteia zoi.. ta 100 tha ftaseis! Oute anhos oute arosties oute nevra oute tipota.. To eida me spray se toiho.. "Dikaioma stin tempelia"!! lol lol Ta dikaiomata mas apla theloume! lol lol
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Post by Kastorianos on May 9, 2009 2:26:34 GMT -5
o anthropos chreiazetai kai tis ipochreosis tou...gia na einai eutychismenos...echei na kanei me tin fisi tou einai megalo filosofiko thema den to katecho kai poli alla to kateichan eidi oi archaioi progonoi. Gia diawase peri Stoikismou..
I eudaimonia einai kati to stigmiaio ston anthropo, opote an kaneis esi kathe mera auta pou perigrafeis, diladi ola auta pou ipotithetai oti se kanan eutichismeno tora auti ti stigmi meta apo kamposo kairo den tha eisai pleon se thesi na ta chairesai opos tora pou den ta echeis...aplo to thema, apla ta wariesai. Giauto kai oloi oi plousioi psachnoun apascholiseis giati den iparchei cheirotero pragma apo to na min echeis ipochreoseis...polloi to richnoun kai sta narkotika malista idika oi neoi.
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