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Post by Duke John on Jun 24, 2008 0:22:14 GMT -5
This is made buy some religious freak, i have met this kind of people with same kind of ideas, just focus on how this guy tryes to alienate and ignore the reality that Albanians were christians, at very begining the video maker says that he is gonna refute something what he thinks its the christians who say that albanians were forced to convert as sees it as propaganda, then he comes with something like Bogumils, this is where he tyes to deny that albanians were never actual christians, the whole video is a crap. I always believed that.... but many Albanian youngsters know nothing of that.... Even if albanians have been converted to islam buy free will then what? what is your point? you got to understand something man, no albanian who is not poisoned buy some religion will never give the same value to religion and see it as important as for example greeks do!.
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Post by yahadj on Jun 24, 2008 1:28:22 GMT -5
And that is supposed to be a superior quality? Pfff... ;D Dude wake up! What is the meaning of life without God?
PEACE
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Jun 24, 2008 1:32:38 GMT -5
the meaning of life is to propogate DNA...there is no other meaning of life but to LIVE as much as you can!
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Post by gysi on Jun 24, 2008 4:31:20 GMT -5
If Albania gets occupied by India 60-70% in 20 years would convert to hinduism ( from pagan to christian to islam to atheist and now confused ) . Nothing wrong just going with the flow its only religion
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Post by Kastorianos on Jun 24, 2008 5:20:45 GMT -5
rather the result of the great antisemitism among Greeks..
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 24, 2008 7:21:33 GMT -5
In my opinion, and its an opinion only, l think most choose to convert but there were exceptions of rebellions as seen with the Great man Scanderbeg.
I would like to ask the Albanians here do they think that there is an islamic revival occuring after the collapse of communism.
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Post by Toskaliku on Jun 24, 2008 12:18:51 GMT -5
The only people seeing a "revival" are those who remained secretly faithful throughout most of communism, they were always there just terrified to come out, since they were cowards then and cowards now.
The vast majority of the population is not seeing any particular revival. Truth be told Im more annoyed the high religiosity of Catholics then Muslims, who are generally not even half as religious
There was more then one rebellion in Albania... Actually around 2-3 per century. Scanderbeg's rebellion was also the second major rebellion, there had be one before him.
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Post by leshte on Jun 24, 2008 14:59:06 GMT -5
Greek1234, you are d!ckhead. I think Toskali is right. I am Catholic and I also have members in my extended family who are orthodox and muslim. Although I consider myself nominally catholic and am not religious, I can tell you from my observations that the Catholic and Orthodox parts of the family are religious while the nominally muslim part are not. I am glad that the nonreligious Albanian is the typical one, accounting for most likely more than 95% of our population. I hope it remains that way.
Feja e Shqiptarit eshte Shqiptaria.
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Post by chalkedon on Jun 24, 2008 15:39:49 GMT -5
^^^ then why all the mosques leshte ? Christ... it looks like iran in albania with the minarets. I dont buy it...everyone knows that albania is a " muslim " country hence the reason why we are at each others throats. Who you trying to kid...do you even live in the balkans?
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Post by libofsha on Jun 24, 2008 16:35:23 GMT -5
^^^ then why all the mosques leshte ? Christ... it looks like iran in albania with the minarets. I dont buy it...everyone knows that albania is a " muslim " country hence the reason why we are at each others throats. Who you trying to kid...do you even live in the balkans? do you?!!! slight correction, you are at our throats over that, we're cool with that, i doesn't bother me in the slightest, if you want to go to a mosque....be my guest, only you unilaterally have a problem with that......who the bigot here? and why should that be acceptable?! what gives you the fucking right to verbally defile another nation's beliefs? you ignorant little shit, like we should ask your permission where to fucking pray, isn't this a blatant case of religeous extremism? by the way there could possibly be more churches in albania than mosques, at least pre regime change anyway....does this make you happy? why can't people go wherever they please?? again i ask how can we tolerate this accepted xenophobia? what happened to human rights and choice and freedom to practise what you choose to?
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Post by redbaron on Jun 24, 2008 17:57:50 GMT -5
Greeks are Christians. The Albanians worked with Al-Qaeda. Its disgusting what the Kossovo Albanians did to the churches during the Yugoslavian War, the Albanians and other Islamic people persecuted the Christian populations such as the Serbs. Albanians today cross the Greek border and disfigure the icons. Albanians are a barbaric people. Are you an hypocrite or just an idiot? All the religions preach respect for the human life. Serbs killed thousands of Albanians,raped our women burned our houses but a Christian like you is worried about the disfigured icons. People like you should be in the church while the church is burning.
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Post by vinjak on Jun 24, 2008 18:06:44 GMT -5
Serbs killed thousands of Albanians,raped our women burned our houses
Oh stop your bullsh$t
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Post by redbaron on Jun 24, 2008 18:22:23 GMT -5
Serbs killed thousands of Albanians,raped our women burned our houses Oh stop your bullsh$t If you don't like my bul$hit you can delete it. It makes you feel you win the argument. DELETE that's how far your intelligence can go.
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Post by vinjak on Jun 24, 2008 18:45:38 GMT -5
If you don't like my bul$hit you can delete it
Well at least we have established that your a whining liar.
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Post by redbaron on Jun 24, 2008 18:55:56 GMT -5
If you don't like my bul$hit you can delete itWell at least we have established that your a whining liar. Now that you have established that,you can move on and do greater things in life.Your cousin from Iran, Ahmedinajad says that 6 million Jews killed themselves. Embrace the truth that he speaks.
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Post by vinjak on Jun 24, 2008 19:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by leshte on Jun 24, 2008 19:43:24 GMT -5
Vinyak your becoming a d!ckhead too. Whats your theory, one day we woke up and decided to kill ourselves by the thousands, ethnically cleanse ourselves by the millions, and just burn our homes to ground.
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Post by greek1234 on Jun 24, 2008 20:05:13 GMT -5
Have you heard of the Albanians in Greece, a while back that attempted to blow themselves up a long with a bus full of school children? It was truelly sick, it has happened three times, the media even stated that it was Islamic motivated. The Koran preaches violence against non Muslims, no wonder Albanians force there people to accept a barbaric faith.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 24, 2008 22:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by Toskaliku on Jun 24, 2008 22:14:43 GMT -5
A lot of the pictures, for instance the one in the Fier mosque, arent showing actual prayer but rather the opening ceremony for the mosque, the same with the mosque in Durres(which shows the giant Albanian flag hanging off of it). In all these occassions, its foreigners who are spending the money to build. Albania's liberal laws unfortunately allow for rich Christians and Muslims to pay for mosques as they please here and there... And again, for the most part, these are people who were strongly religious before communism fell and remained throughout the Hoxha period. Now they can come out and act freely. Most of the religious revival has not been in Albania itself, but rather in Kosova and Macedonia, where Albanians have seen hardline persecution and have been alienated and cornered by hatefilled people of another faith, something we havent experienced in Albania; thus Islam tends to be stronger in Kosova and in Macedonia. PS: All the wacko's come out on facebook. Check out this absurdity: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qa4Gg7zwfs0(This is an example of a communist left over. There are a number of them posting such videos.) It says "Albanian Soviet brotherhood"
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