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Post by macmako on May 31, 2009 23:25:11 GMT -5
I think it is you and your compatriots that should let it go. Your negativity is so not Greek, dude.
No pivo for me. But I am chillin', dude, with an ouzo and a very nice and very beautiful Greek woman.
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Post by ioan on Jun 1, 2009 0:19:15 GMT -5
Ioan by your "priorities" i guess you follow the moto "just follow the money", or just the instructions by the money givers.. No, by priorities I mean the real prorities that can exist in the 21 century. Nowadays a small country is never strong enough (except maybe Switzerland and Norway). In nowadays challenges, the best place for Bulgaria in my view is in European union. Since Greece helped us so much to enter EU, and since Greece has always been probably the biggest cultural influence in Bulgaria, it is only natural Bulgarians to be for closer cooperations with Greece. On the other hand, in our history, we ve always been very close connected to the Romanians. We are closely connected to the Greeks, even though we ve fought with u alot of times. But ordinary Bulgarians like Greece. An indicator for this is that every time Bulgaria votes with 12 points for Greece in the Eurovision. And all this closeness is of course pushed further by the fact that the 3 of us are in the EU. I dont know if u know what EU is and what the possibilities are (judjing from your posts I say u are not aware), but there are alot and actually there is solidarity among its members. Of course, I know fyroms used to be Bulgarians till 1945. But living for 100 years under serbian and then titos propaganda made them hate their kin and love their ruler. Isnt it ironic how now they study that the slavs in Macedonia were enslaved by the Bulgars? And after all the kings and the heroes in fyrom have declared they are Bulgarians? None have declared he was a Serb , but nowadays they feel closer to their masters. Most of those choices were due to the fact that Bulgaria wanted to have 1/3 of the Bulgarians in our state. I m talking about the fyroms. We have suffered enough for them. Nowadays we really do not care. Lets hope in this particular case u are very wrong.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 1, 2009 1:27:54 GMT -5
"I know fyroms used to be Bulgarians till 1945"
This an extremely embarresing statement Ioan.
Don't you know of the serbian revolts in vardar during samuils occupation of the region?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 1, 2009 1:53:09 GMT -5
"I know fyroms used to be Bulgarians till 1945" This an extremely embarresing statement Ioan. Don't you know of the serbian revolts in vardar during samuils occupation of the region? Novi, in this regard, Ioan got continuously proven wrong (AKA pwnd) in the other thread, and he still insists... What can you do?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 1, 2009 1:54:22 GMT -5
I think it is you and your compatriots that should let it go. Your negativity is so not Greek, dude. No pivo for me. But I am chillin', dude, with an ouzo and a very nice and very beautiful Greek woman. pls restrain from writing, when you are not feeling good. WTF are you talking about?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 1, 2009 7:06:56 GMT -5
"What can you do?"
I know lol.....l may have to keep continually showing him these evidences ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 1, 2009 7:25:34 GMT -5
"What can you do?" I know lol.....l may have to keep continually showing him these evidences ;D Novi, its times that i think that visiting these forums is the biggest waste of time ever... We know who we are, and God knows this as well. Let HIM educate them, we aint gonna waste our time persuading Kastor or Ioan about basic laws of our universe.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 1, 2009 9:22:17 GMT -5
^ Its funny you say this because l actually talked about this with a work mate, l basically said to him that you show evidences to people on a forum and they blindly refuse to acknowlegde it. You know what he said to me, which l found was spot on, he said to me that you need to do it face to face in a room and show them the actual evidence because on a forum its easy to keep denying. Ioan is a classic example.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 1, 2009 9:24:48 GMT -5
Very true, altho i think Ioan would prefer "talking" to his "workmates" in EU, rather than discussing with "inferior" NO-EU Serbs! LMAO
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 1, 2009 9:45:30 GMT -5
^ lol yeah l know. If he could and many other Bulgarians were to follow in the footsteps of Babba Vanga (Grandmother Vanga) then the Bulgars will be a blessed nation......its their choice if they want to be blessed by god or not!......their spite for the Greeks and Serbs will do them no favours.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 1, 2009 11:57:37 GMT -5
^ lol yeah l know. If he could and many other Bulgarians were to follow in the footsteps of Babba Vanga (Grandmother Vanga) then the Bulgars will be a blessed nation......its their choice if they want to be blessed by god or not!......their spite for the Greeks and Serbs will do them no favours. HA HA Novi LMAO, check this out from: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga
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Post by ioan on Jun 1, 2009 12:33:34 GMT -5
Blah blah blah. As I said Bulgarians like Greeks. I dont know Bulgarians that dislike Serbs either. I dont too, except on the fyrom matter. I showed u 2 lists of quotes that proove that fyroms are Bulgarians. No answer. At least novi accepts the fact Samuel was Bulgarian. Thats a step up. You are the ones who got shut by the countless evidences I presented that fyroms are bg. I m tired of "arguing" with you. Obviously u do not care about historic sourses but about what u want to see. I never said Serbia was inferior, cause its not in EU. Please Pyrro stop seeing in my words what u want to see.
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Post by ioan on Jun 1, 2009 12:35:30 GMT -5
As for Vanga being subtitled, it was due to the fact that she could hardly talk in the last years of her existance. She was very very ill and couldnt pronounce the words clearly. Unlike u, I actually watched those interviews.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 1, 2009 22:03:15 GMT -5
"I showed u 2 lists of quotes that proove that fyroms are Bulgarians. No answer."
Ioan, l replied to this in here in Greek forum, its the one from the works of Jordan Ivanov and info about Skiti Slavs lmao.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 1, 2009 22:54:00 GMT -5
"I showed u 2 lists of quotes that proove that fyroms are Bulgarians. No answer." Ioan, l replied to this in here in Greek forum, its the one from the works of Jordan Ivanov and info about Skiti Slavs lmao. Come Novi, dont be harsh on our Ioan here! It is just that when someone answers to what he says or asks, a sudden problem appears with Ioan's eyes and ears, and he never senses the answer. Ioan has every good intention to understand ;D
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Post by macmako on Jun 1, 2009 23:22:00 GMT -5
I think it is you and your compatriots that should let it go. Your negativity is so not Greek, dude. No pivo for me. But I am chillin', dude, with an ouzo and a very nice and very beautiful Greek woman. pls restrain from writing, when you are not feeling good. WTF are you talking about? I was talking about chillin' with my wonderful Greek woman. What are you talking about?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 1, 2009 23:55:09 GMT -5
"Come Novi, dont be harsh on our Ioan here! It is just that when someone answers to what he says or asks, a sudden problem appears with Ioan's eyes and ears, and he never senses the answer. Ioan has every good intention to understand"
I suppose Ioan is Ioan, his going to always believe that eastern, southern serbs and vardarians are brainwashed Bulgarians.....don't worry about the facts which point otherwise, its because Samuil once had a political empire that ruled over non bulgars which makes the land qualify as historical B"lgarska......oh well.
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Post by ioan on Jun 2, 2009 1:36:12 GMT -5
"I showed u 2 lists of quotes that proove that fyroms are Bulgarians. No answer." Ioan, l replied to this in here in Greek forum, its the one from the works of Jordan Ivanov and info about Skiti Slavs lmao. SO WHAT if its the work of Jordan Ivanov? ?? First not all quotes are from his book! Second, the quotes, even from his book, are from historic sourses. So I do not see your argument why we should neglect the historic sourses, countless historic sourses and believe 1 stupid german geologist?
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Post by ioan on Jun 2, 2009 1:37:40 GMT -5
"I showed u 2 lists of quotes that proove that fyroms are Bulgarians. No answer." Ioan, l replied to this in here in Greek forum, its the one from the works of Jordan Ivanov and info about Skiti Slavs lmao. Come Novi, dont be harsh on our Ioan here! It is just that when someone answers to what he says or asks, a sudden problem appears with Ioan's eyes and ears, and he never senses the answer. Ioan has every good intention to understand ;D Please stop twisting the conversation to me as a person. Do u think any of the Greeks share your exsentric oppinion that fyroms are Serbs? I dont think so.
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Post by ioan on Jun 2, 2009 1:39:11 GMT -5
"What can you do?" I know lol.....l may have to keep continually showing him these evidences ;D which a 1 geologist and one sourse who says that there were a town Gordoservion. So what? There is a mountain in Asia called Bulgury or smth like that and I dont claim there were Bulgarians living there.
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