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Post by fazlinho on Jun 20, 2009 8:45:54 GMT -5
To mi nismo? Cak smo i vise. Druga je stvar kako vi gledate na taj period
Nakon sto su se Osmanlije povukle iseljenje Bosnjaka van Bosne je ostvaio u BiH jedva pola nas u BiH.
Dabogdo vi imali Srebrenicu i da vam nju uzimam kao primjer da ste dobro prosli.
To sto nova Srpska historija hoce da se pravi da cetnicka divljanja po Bosnjacima nisu postojala u drugom svjetskom ratu je vasa stvar, proporcionalno su Bosnjaci najvise stradali u svjetskom ratu, koliko god to htjeli priznat ili ne.
Ili se salis, ili si glup. Ono sto je Nato srbiji uradio je hiljaditi dio onoga sto se desilo u BiH. Samo uporedi slike Beograda i Sarajeva tokom rata. Nenormalno da uopce hoces da uporedjujes te dvije stvari.
Kakve veze imaju Nijemci sada da mi je znati.
Najbitnije je da vi mislite da ste ga pobjedili. Niko nije ni spomenuo novi rat, valjda vam se toliko vrti u glavi da ne mozete zivjeti bez njega.
To you your position is realistic, to us it's ours.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 20, 2009 8:50:22 GMT -5
Eh moje bosnje, zar vam nije dosta pametovati o ratu i proslosti.
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Post by fazlinho on Jun 20, 2009 9:08:22 GMT -5
Eh moje bosnje, zar vam nije dosta pametovati o ratu i proslosti. Said the man who wrote an essay about it 4 posts above.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 20, 2009 9:10:45 GMT -5
Eh moje bosnje, zar vam nije dosta pametovati o ratu i proslosti.
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Post by fazlinho on Jun 20, 2009 10:31:14 GMT -5
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Jun 20, 2009 10:36:02 GMT -5
Fazlija Imamo mi nekoliko Srebrenica samo se ne hvalimo. Evo ti jedna: Pretpostavljam da si dosta mlad pa to niste ucili u skoli. Nadji na netu pa se malo bolje upoznaj. Kljucne reci Siumarice, Kragujevac, streljanje. A to koliko vam je lose bilo pod Turcima na to cu se samo nasmejati. Procitaj clanke o povratku osmanlijske arhitekture jel de da vam nije drago zbog toga? Pa onda procitaj ko su bili feudalci pod Turcima a ko kmetovi. Kome su odnosili decu u Stambol u sklopu danka u krvi a kome nisu. Koga su nabijali na kolac a koga nisu. Od cijih se lobanja gradila kula a od cijih nije. Mi za nase Srebrenice nismo tuzili Nemacku nego smo progutali knedlu i idemo dalje. Zanimljivo za Sumarice je to da su moj otac (1936 godiste) i deda mogli tamo da nastradaju posto su tada ziveli u Kragujevcu.
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Zvone
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Post by Zvone on Jun 20, 2009 13:08:07 GMT -5
Da, zato "slavite" Kosovsku bitku iz 14.-og stoljeca i razozirate pod tom isprikom. Nemojte se praviti da ste bolji od nekoga.
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Post by manijak on Jun 20, 2009 13:30:15 GMT -5
Lot of reactions to Incko decision: www.sarajevo-x.com/clanak/090620068/komentariI have to say I agree once again with Tihic..that a stronger message should be sent so people don't even attempt these types of things again. I have a feeling Serbs will be doing something stupid again soon enough.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Jun 20, 2009 13:36:25 GMT -5
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Post by soko on Jun 20, 2009 13:40:50 GMT -5
eh, Njemcka je placala ratne odstete Jugi, njemci su etnicki ocisceni iz juge, a blejburg je bio neki glupi stos da se "izjednaci" broj mrtvih inace, RS nepostoji, to nije drzava, a da se ukine, sutra sve bi bilo isto.. sve je do vladajucih stranaka, tako da, briga me... gledati samog na sebe kao zrtvu nikada nije dobro, ni za neku zemlju, ni za nekog covjeka... Mi Bosanci* da smo pametni bi prestali da se palimo na neke tragikomicne politicare sto obecavaju da ce ukinuti RS, te "pravdu" za genocid, te ovo te ono "mi smo ugrozeni" sve je to sranje.... uvijek je bilo ovog sranja sto se desilo 90ih, a mi smo najvise najebali posto, jednostavno ans je mnogo manje od nasih susjeda... jebiga, ko god misli da ce nas neko "spasiti" vara se dobro, niko nikoga bas nevoli previse na ovom svijetu... jedino se moze samog sebe spasiti, tako da ako se ljudi toliko plase te jebene pravoslavne republike sto cini 49% zemlje, onda je bolje da radimo na tome da imamo sto jacu privredu, i sto bolju vojsku, sto pametniju omladinu, sto bolje zdravstvo i skolstvo... a ovo kukanje i glasanje za neke sdeaovce i harise, sto jedino znaju da kradu, grade dzamije i onda govore na TVu kako su poslali pismo Obami da ukine RS, posto jebiga ucinili su genocid, nije nas negdje dovelo.. ako zelite primjer gledanja na sebe kao zrtvu, i gdje to vodi. uzmite srpsku javnost krajem 80ih/pocetkom 90ih.. kada su poceli sa "turci su nam" blalblalba, "ustase" blablababla "mi smo zrtve" blalblabla,"boj na kosovu, blablabla, " Eh, gdje ih je to dovelo, bili su najveci narod u jednoj prilicno dobroj zemlji, a sta su danas, neko pravoslavno izdanje palestinaca sto bacaju kamenje na transportere Nato-a na kosovu.... * Mi vecinom sami sebe tako zovemo, a sve su etnicke skupine ionako bazirane na mitovima, kao i vase, tako da nemojte srat o tome kako nemogu da koristim rijec Bosanac....
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Jun 20, 2009 13:48:29 GMT -5
eh, Njemcka je placala ratne odstete Jugi, njemci su etnicki ocisceni iz juge, a blejburg je bio neki glupi stos da se "izjednaci" broj mrtvih Koliko se secam Tito je oprostio Nemackoj ratnu odstetu mozda ti znas drugacije.
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Post by Zvone on Jun 20, 2009 14:02:06 GMT -5
Samo sam zelio odgovoriti na tvoj "idemo dalje" kad ocigledno zivite u proslosti kao i ostali. Nista vise brate.
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Post by zgembo on Jun 20, 2009 14:05:50 GMT -5
You Serbs seriously have no sense. "Artificial" is something called Republika Srpska. A territory that is not considered random only by people who drew up the plans for it. Everyone else sees it for what it is. You don't get it. People who live in Republika Srpska have a common identity. That makes it legitimate, functional and not artificial. Bosnia is held together against common sense (the people hate each other and the politicians cannot work with each other). That's what matters in the end.
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Zvone
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Post by Zvone on Jun 20, 2009 14:09:46 GMT -5
Well, one can argue that RS is held by the hatred of the other two. Is hate a unifying factor?
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Post by manijak on Jun 20, 2009 14:10:53 GMT -5
It is still artificial and you are still a sell-out. You can justifity it how you want. We are talking hundreds years of history where people lived side by side, where there was no Serb areas or Bosniak areas or Croat areas..and one day you decided to create that (and you know how)
Fact of the matter is, you still don't understand the solution to this problem. It definetley isn't how its set up now.
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Post by manijak on Jun 20, 2009 14:15:36 GMT -5
As I posted that article in the Serb forum..Serbs are moving back to Sarajevo, except its on the other side. We will have segregated communities all over. Do you really think the fighting will stop? It will INCREASE..guranteed.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 20, 2009 14:41:18 GMT -5
Htjeli ste "Demokratiju" ;D Dobili ste je
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Post by zgembo on Jun 20, 2009 14:59:04 GMT -5
It is still artificial and you are still a sell-out. You can justifity it how you want. We are talking hundreds years of history where people lived side by side, where there was no Serb areas or Bosniak areas or Croat areas..and one day you decided to create that (and you know how) Fact of the matter is, you still don't understand the solution to this problem. It definetley isn't how its set up now. Selling out what exactly? Serbs never had any loyalty to Bosnia, nor did they have any reason to. It just became a country 17 years and against our will. I sta kenjas lived side by side. There was always some kind of power imbalance or hatred. There were always migrations and ethnic cleansing. All the stuff that happened in the 20th century didn't come out of thin air. And this is a solution. Everybody has their own little area, and no body bothers anyone else. We hate each, we have different interestes, we cannot agree on anything and we never will. It's like holding an irreconcilable marriage together, and the husband uses arguments like "but what about all of our history, why are you selling me out". F all that. It's about having functional, logical countries. What's the whole point of having a country anyway? It is to get a bunch of people with common interests organized, so a government can lead them to satisfy those common interests. That doesn't exist in Bosnia. It's all forced. And it's not just Bosnia, I am against Kosovo being a part of Serbia too. I'd rather have it and pressure all the Albanians to be loyal citizens of Serbia or leave, but that's not realistic, it's not worth the waste of time and energy to fix, and I realize it.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jun 20, 2009 15:02:02 GMT -5
Fala dragom kurcu da neko objasni bravo Zgembi
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Post by manijak on Jun 20, 2009 15:12:55 GMT -5
It is still artificial and you are still a sell-out. You can justifity it how you want. We are talking hundreds years of history where people lived side by side, where there was no Serb areas or Bosniak areas or Croat areas..and one day you decided to create that (and you know how) Fact of the matter is, you still don't understand the solution to this problem. It definetley isn't how its set up now. Selling out what exactly? Serbs never had any loyalty to Bosnia, nor did they have any reason to. It just became a country 17 years and against our will. I sta kenjas lived side by side. There was always some kind of power imbalance or hatred. There were always migrations and ethnic cleansing. All the stuff that happened in the 20th century didn't come out of thin air. And this is a solution. Everybody has their own little area, and no body bothers anyone else. We hate each, we have different interestes, we cannot agree on anything and we never will. It's like holding an irreconcilable marriage together, and the husband uses arguments like "but what about all of our history, why are you selling me out". F all that. It's about having functional, logical countries. What's the whole point of having a country anyway? It is to get a bunch of people with common interests organized, so a government can lead them to satisfy those common interests. That doesn't exist in Bosnia. It's all forced. And it's not just Bosnia, I am against Kosovo being a part of Serbia too. I'd rather have it and pressure all the Albanians to be loyal citizens of Serbia or leave, but that's not realistic, it's not worth the waste of time and energy to fix, and I realize it. ahahhaha funny First of all, do you how funny it is what you said? Does "we are different people now", "and history has no basis" remind you of anyone? Yeah, us. We have been saying this for a long long time..after you kept saying we are Serbs or Croats who changed religion. In the hope that we will switch over and everyone will be happy. Not a month back, this was the argument. Also history of BIH and Kosovo was also very important in your argument. Now you have done a full circle and its totally different. ps i'm sure at the start you were for kosovo independence ps2 BIH was not a country before - just 17yrs? And Serbs have no loyalty? Well the fact is its always been one country. So if you have no loyalty you move or you shut up. That is how it works everywhere. I don't come to Canada to create a Bosnian community so then I can seperate. It doesn't work like that.
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