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Post by leshte on Jun 30, 2009 15:49:58 GMT -5
In other worlds... when Sultan was giving free land to Chams just because they were Muslims and was letting Christians to die for starvation... that time.. Albanians had to say "No it not fair"... and this way they could prevent the next "unfair" move of the opposite site..
There's Christian Chams as well. Some of the propaganda your state has fed you doesn't hold water in the modern world we're living now. Cut the crap with land being given. Chams were natives; that area has always been mixed.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jun 30, 2009 16:17:00 GMT -5
Kastorianos is partly Albanian... Surely not.
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 30, 2009 16:31:48 GMT -5
In other worlds... when Sultan was giving free land to Chams just because they were Muslims and was letting Christians to die for starvation... that time.. Albanians had to say "No it not fair"... and this way they could prevent the next "unfair" move of the opposite site..There's Christian Chams as well. Some of the propaganda your state has fed you doesn't hold water in the modern world we're living now. Cut the crap with land being given. Chams were natives; that area has always been mixed. Who said they were not natives? Greek Epirots where natives too you know... but unfortunately for them.. they were Christian natives.. and that resulted to a mistreatment from the privilleged Muslim natives. PS. ..Christian Chams..? I dont know about them. What part they took during WW2? Bali Competar or Greek side?
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 30, 2009 16:33:56 GMT -5
You know, an average Greek doesn't care about Albanians at all, its an internet thing... I think that what happens is that Albos touch Greeks' filotimo, if you know what it means...something like besa...because especially from the Albos who are not living in Greece there isn't a sign of thankfulness for the many hundreds of thousands immigrants that were accepted here and despite the not bad economic aftermath caused great troubles that only we know. Greek society seemed relatively very hospitable...Send 1.000.000 Alvanous immigrants in Sweden and then come and tell that I'm wrong... Ask any Albo here, who have lived long time here in Greece, ask Mendor, if the ,majority of the Greeks hadn't treat him well, of course with some exceptions. Its true though that the most antigreek guys here are those who we call tourkalvanous...and I ...wonder...why? I'll order some things of that you sell on youtube... ;D PS. And the Mikrasiates Greeks were much more europeans in all ways from every malok... Well, i understand the influx of populations Greece had to deal with. Being a neighbor which was better off economically; it should've played a different role. A much more mature rule when it came to dealings with the Balkans. Instead the role Greece played was pathetic. The obstructions during Kosovo war. The condemnation of Albanian immigrants by the media and social circles. The bad relationship with Fyrom. Sounds like the actions of an EU member country? A childish role with religious and nationalist rhetoric. That's why Greece will never be a leader in the Balkans. Having US plans about reformation of Balkans and borders and new nationalities above you head... is not really what makes you feel free to act like you want.... You first try to protect yourself.. and that guides to stupid political way of thinking.. At least we offer stability by our rule of "No change of borders" policies and by "dissapearing" any groups dreaming of Great Greece etc. In addition with the influx of that wave of immigrants.. and the means we had to accomodate them...then yes.. we did quite a good job. I wonder who else in Balkans could do it better... at least our way..?
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 30, 2009 16:38:09 GMT -5
Rex,stop feeding the trolls..... some of these idiots take you seriously...
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Post by rex362 on Jun 30, 2009 17:08:52 GMT -5
its about time you showed up ....I'm trying to win the trophy
hey ...its your turn to make the greek salad...I got the dressing in hand
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Post by leshte on Jun 30, 2009 17:09:41 GMT -5
The Chams were just a reflection of the society of the time. There were collaborators and there were those who sided with the Partizans, the Balli Kombetar and anyone who fought fascism in Greece. The idea that 100% of the population fought against Greece or Greeks was a necessity for the Greek State to find a "reason" or "justification" as to why the Chams were being ethnically cleansed; hence it is a propaganda tool. The Chans as it was shown in those PDF files I posted earlier in the forum were in fact being expelled from Greece since the early 1900's when there was no fascism and no Nazis. The culmination was reached after the war. The war was used as the alibi.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jun 30, 2009 17:11:14 GMT -5
Telemaque is partly Turkish
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Post by rex362 on Jun 30, 2009 17:22:30 GMT -5
Tele will spit on you
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 30, 2009 17:29:46 GMT -5
Rex post the pic where we were Kosovar liberation fighters.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jun 30, 2009 17:35:29 GMT -5
Rex Do you spit when you talk?
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jun 30, 2009 17:42:04 GMT -5
Greeks themselves are antigreek and antigreece.
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 30, 2009 17:49:50 GMT -5
Greeks themselves are antigreek and antigreece. Finally the moron should up.... I was starting to salivate that he was gone. Mysia.... go back under the porch.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jun 30, 2009 17:58:00 GMT -5
you little cane I maybe call you romios ;D
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jun 30, 2009 18:01:44 GMT -5
mysia have greco-phobia ;D
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Post by rex362 on Jun 30, 2009 18:08:20 GMT -5
Rex post the pic where we were Kosovar liberation fighters. this one ?
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Post by rex362 on Jun 30, 2009 18:12:00 GMT -5
or you mean this one
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jun 30, 2009 18:12:29 GMT -5
karta you're tipic greek sxizofrenis ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Jun 30, 2009 18:13:19 GMT -5
Rexo niku je mir?
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Post by rex362 on Jun 30, 2009 18:16:04 GMT -5
or this one
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