donnie
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Nike Leka i Kelmendit
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Post by donnie on May 15, 2008 12:30:03 GMT -5
Kuci hails from Berisha, one of the oldest clans of Albania. Together they're occasioally called "Berishë e Kuqe" or White Berisha and Red Berisha.
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Post by benzino on May 16, 2008 3:19:24 GMT -5
My grand grand grand grand grad grand grand grand grand grandfather´s Name was Stanish Ndreli . Malsor of Kelmendi Tribe near Gusinje. The same names what you have list are present to katholic albanians too. The only different to montenegrin ist that we write it "Balshë, Stanishë" etc etc...the "-sha" ending in albanian comes only wenn you tell us what you have done like "I was with stanisha at the Party" but you cant say "I was with Stanishë at the Party" in albanian "Isha me Stanishen/Stanishin ne nje party" or "it was Stanisha there" in albanian "Ishte Stanisha/Stanishi aty".
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Post by terroreign on May 16, 2008 13:35:05 GMT -5
^So he was a Montenegrin, nice ;D
Balshe Stanishe, just Albanian translations for monte names
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Post by benzino on May 16, 2008 15:13:43 GMT -5
^So he was a Montenegrin, nice ;D Balshe Stanishe, just Albanian translations for monte names He´s fathers Name was Ndre, his brother Nike and Prel and Gjon ....montes too? Since when is Ndre monte Name? or Gjon? or Prel?
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Post by terroreign on May 16, 2008 15:31:19 GMT -5
Nike is just a nick name for Nikola, like Niko
Those are Albanian names, but some are Montenegrin, mixed ancestry, people naming their children after ancestors, the usual
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Post by benzino on May 16, 2008 17:20:25 GMT -5
Nike is just a nick name for Nikola, like Niko Those are Albanian names, but some are Montenegrin, mixed ancestry, people naming their children after ancestors, the usual Those are just christian Name and u can find them everywere. The only difference is how you write it "John" or Gjon, or Shtefan = Stephan = Stjepan isti kurac . If i call my son "Alex", there is no doubt if he is albanian or not only because he´s name is Alex. .
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 17, 2008 12:04:22 GMT -5
Name of my grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grandther was Yllir and surname was ShaleDardani
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Post by skumbag on May 17, 2008 12:08:43 GMT -5
Why would anyone care about some worm food right now that may have had some genetic relationship to you? What do some long dead goat herders have to do with your life now? Why is it important?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 25, 2008 11:11:54 GMT -5
---edit--- No Albanian thanks
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Demonel
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Post by Demonel on Jun 25, 2008 16:09:24 GMT -5
Kolja and Djerdj are not Albanian.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 25, 2008 18:10:18 GMT -5
Yes, which shows the fact that many slavs were albanizied, since Gasho is a Montenegrin first name.
Household or Home
Gaso, Lujo, Ljeka, Djerdj are Montenegrin names....
Jeez stop trying to steal Montenegrin culture...
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 26, 2008 5:50:54 GMT -5
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Post by benzino on Jun 26, 2008 14:09:18 GMT -5
Kolja and Djerdj are not Albanian. (Gjergj) Djerdj is the albanian version of the int christian Name George. serb-montenegrin version of Djerdj is Djordje and not Djerdj
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Post by benzino on Jun 26, 2008 14:19:18 GMT -5
Gaso, Lujo, Ljeka, Djerdj are Montenegrin names.... come on ;D...these are pure catholic albanian Names, your version of Ljeka is Aleksandar and your version is Djordje and not Djerdj. Ujkan = Vuk Gaso is from biggest albanian tribe of Gashi. Lul (Lujo), Lule = flower Montenegrin Names are Vukasin, Djordje, Stjepan, Kojo, Milutin, Dobrasin, Radosav etc...
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Post by terroreign on Jun 27, 2008 2:00:00 GMT -5
Kolja and Djerdj are not Albanian. (Gjergj) Djerdj is the albanian version of the int christian Name George. serb-montenegrin version of Djerdj is Djordje and not Djerdj Actually the serb version is Djordje, the Montenegrin is Djuradj No you come on, Ljeka/Leka is short for Aleksandar, just as is Lekso, Ljesho or Aco. And we have Djuradj not Djordje or Djerdj, so you're kind of right there. Its not Stjepan its Scepan, not Djordje but Djuradj, Vukasin yes, but more often Vuksan Vujan, Tosan, Masan, Turo, Rako, Gaso, Vulas, Komnen, Balsa...Those are true Montenegrin names...
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Demonel
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Post by Demonel on Jun 27, 2008 5:31:40 GMT -5
It's like me saying Alija is a Bosniak name because it's a slavic version of Ali.
Komnen? Emanuel Komnen was not even slavic.
P.S. Kolja is a russian name. Very common.
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Post by benzino on Jun 27, 2008 9:17:21 GMT -5
It's like me saying Alija is a Bosniak name because it's a slavic version of Ali. . no i didnt say its albanian but its a version how albanians spell and write it. We say Djerdj (Gjergj), you say Djordje or Djuradj. And offcourse only bosniaks say Alija and not Ali. This is the bosniak version how they write it.
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Demonel
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Post by Demonel on Jun 27, 2008 13:53:02 GMT -5
"Why Serbians don't use it ? Why Croatians don't use it ?" Because it's russian.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 27, 2008 16:46:02 GMT -5
kuçi means red in albanian and the serbo-croatian "kuca", wich is not a slavic word !!!!!, derives from albanian "kuçi", probably because of the red color of the roof and not the contrary (the old sense of the word is clearly conserved in albanian !!). The slavic word is "dom" and serbo-croatian is the only slavic language that uses the word "kuca" for "house" ! Why someone who is not Albanian would use the albanian version of George (Gjergj / Djerdj) ?? Jovan Cvijic recognizes that in Monténégro a lot of Albanians were slavizied and I don't think he liked Albanians ... !!! Montenegrin names what are you talking about please ! Why those names aren't use by Serbs ?? Because those names are Albanians names (like Gasho, Ljuljo ...). The name of the tribe is Kuc, the plural is Kuci, it means home.... It probably derived from illyrian yes, not albanian Understand this, albanian =\ Illyrian Albanian is at best an offshoot of illyrians, there were more illyrians with seperate distinctions(Such as the Montenegrins) Yes many albanians were slavicized in Montenegro, as were many slavs Albanianized Montenegrin names, yes, we are a seperate ethnic group with our own unique names, if this suprises you go home and slap yourself. Aleksandar "Leka" Cekovic from Golubovci or Aleksandar "Lekso" Saicic from Berane. My own great grandfather's name is Gasho, and he comes from the Krivosije region (Which is near Grahovac), basically nowhere near albania or albanians.
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Post by benzino on Jun 28, 2008 4:59:38 GMT -5
@terro thats the reason that u make the Gashis "Montenegrins" only because your grandfathers Name was Gasho ... Names are not = identity, u can call your Sohn "Gerhard" if you want, but that makes the Name of your Son not "Montenegrin" just because he´s name is "Gerhard". Gasho/Gashi maybe u can find it in MNE too, but its very rare in compare with Albanians. Leka is the albanian version of Aleksandar. Today you will find no srbs or Montenegrins that calls themself "Leka" (maybe one or 2). If i call my Son "Milutin" should i say then "Hey this is albanian Name because my Son names is Milutin" ? And about Kucis (The Red one), we have talk once about them, remeber that only one little piece of Kucis have been assimilated when they took the orthodox religion and now are Montenegrins. The majority is still albanian, you have no idea how many Kucis in Kosovo and Albania, Mazedonia are. Together maybe more that the population of MNE. . current Deputy Prime Minister of Kosovo is Hajredin Kuci is from Kuci Tribe. www.pdk-ks.org/site/img/images/content/news/Kuci+Peje_k.gif These are some Ghegh Albanian tribes Kelmendi (Climenti) (i´m from Kelmendi Tribe) Gashi Kuci Hoti (my Grandma was from Hoti Tribe) Berisha Shala Shkreli Bytyci Krasniqi etc best regards
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