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Post by lvl100 on Aug 2, 2009 14:08:20 GMT -5
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Post by oszkarthehun on Aug 5, 2009 19:01:35 GMT -5
Considering the inaccurate and clumsy way Trianon was done for example in regards to borders and ethnic population distribution I agree it should be revised and revision would even have relevance to population distribution in some of those areas even today. To be honest I cant see it being revised , but who knows it may happen one day and in my oppinion would be justified. The requests for any changes would have to be reasonable and predominantly based on ethnic population distribution. Their are still cases where this would be justified.
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Post by lvl100 on Aug 10, 2009 13:30:19 GMT -5
I agree it should be revised and revision would even have relevance to population distribution in some of those areas even today. To be honest I cant see it being revised , but who knows it may happen one day and in my oppinion would be justified. The requests for any changes would have to be reasonable and predominantly based on ethnic population distribution. The only way of a border revision is WWW III. Considering the destruction power of today`s weapons, its a safe bet that the outcome of this war wont matter anyway , neither for me nor for you. There wont be any population left to distribute lol. The only way to actually find a workaround would be Hungary becoming some kind of local economic powerhouse and have enough gravitational power to influence all her neighbors decisions. But I doubt that this will be possible with Hungarians walking in funny suits in European Parliament.
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Post by wbb on Aug 12, 2009 3:41:58 GMT -5
u mean the holy war dzsihad? Hungary's borders will revive sooner or later, hungarians will never gets over with Trianon, even young hungarian generations of 5-6 years old will learn fast about the Trianon, it's something that people talk in nearly everyday life of Hungary. Romania and her neighbours wont be able to hold off and beat those fundamentalist Hungarians, nor ur American friend who act like international police can do anything, they still cant stop the insurgents in afghanistan and iraq from spreading. it's has to be someone who is fully sick and insane in the head to press the red button to launch that nuke wortless chit. Remember the poison gas and mustard gas when being used in WW1 on both sides? what happen in the end? Both sides Central Powers and Allies agreed to stop using these chemical weapons and fight abit more traditional way, with guns, knives, artillery and swords. So if WW3 would be come, there would be more of guns, swords rather than technology. One example for this is because high technology usage is far too expensive while guns, swords is way much easier and cheaper to run the wars. I hope u take this nuking topic abit more serious, those population could be u or me when being target by nuke. No one would want to chit themselves and die being chited on their pants when that nuke is being used. Oh yes that can happen, it's never too late for that. Hungary has always been a powerhouse in the Balkans.
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Post by lvl100 on Aug 12, 2009 9:45:49 GMT -5
u mean the holy war dzsihad? Hungary's borders will revive sooner or later, hungarians will never gets over with Trianon, even young hungarian generations of 5-6 years old will learn fast about the Trianon, it's something that people talk in nearly everyday life of Hungary. Romania and her neighbours wont be able to hold off and beat those fundamentalist Hungarians, nor ur American friend who act like international police can do anything, they still cant stop the insurgents in afghanistan and iraq from spreading. So wbb , this is how you train your children for the upcoming jihad ? I don't know what weapons will be used in world war 3 but World War 4 will be fought with stones and sticks. Albert Einstein The present status quo its maintained by the MAD (mutual assured destruction) nuke policy. If someone will be crazy enough to brake it and start WWW 3, MAD will be activated. Every country invaded will launch her nukes. They will be destroyed anyway, so they have nothing to lose. Well, you should hurry with the Hungarian powerhouse thingy. Romanians are buying your country piece by piece . Especially in the east , where are the poorest zones in Hungary and houses prices are much lower than in RO. Towns like Battonya where only last year hundreds of Romanian families bought holiday houses will be completely Romanian in a few years. ;D
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Post by wbb on Aug 13, 2009 3:56:58 GMT -5
eermm i dont think so, no. ;D Maybe teach them how to use a automatic rifles and kill only what is political, not innocent civilians. And Hungarians are entering Islam more than leaving Islam, that is a good start. Hungarians are smart enough to research the true Islam instead of Wahabism. Omg Lvl100, Eastern Hungary? loool that area is where the most Gypsies are located. I hope u not that stupid to invest properties in Gypsy ghettos. How do u know that it's the Vlach who bought those house, it could be Hungarians and Szekely from Romania who bought it, they got Romanian citizenship too. Anyway even if Vlach buy houses in Battonya, they will assimilate into Hungarian sooner or later. Small Romanian minorities in Hungary are doing a fine progress to convert into Hungarian. Anyone can become Hungarian even u can become Hungarian if u want to. But be careful Lvl100, if u convert to Islam, u are an automatic Hungarian which is Turks. We call Romanian muslims...as Hungarians or Turkish. Enjoy ur Turkish Raki, cheers.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Aug 13, 2009 4:20:51 GMT -5
as I said its probably unlikely, but in time then again who knows I mean who wouldn have expected Kosovo for example. well I hope there wont be WW3 to change things. I agree it should be revised and revision would even have relevance to population distribution in some of those areas even today. To be honest I cant see it being revised , but who knows it may happen one day and in my oppinion would be justified. The requests for any changes would have to be reasonable and predominantly based on ethnic population distribution. The only way of a border revision is WWW III. Considering the destruction power of today`s weapons, its a safe bet that the outcome of this war wont matter anyway , neither for me nor for you. There wont be any population left to distribute lol. The only way to actually find a workaround would be Hungary becoming some kind of local economic powerhouse and have enough gravitational power to influence all her neighbors decisions. But I doubt that this will be possible with Hungarians walking in funny suits in European Parliament.
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Post by lvl100 on Aug 13, 2009 5:41:47 GMT -5
And Hungarians are entering Islam more than leaving Islam, that is a good start. Hungarians are smart enough to research the true Islam instead of Wahabism. From what I saw (can`t speak for Hungarians from Hungary, but I know very well Hungarians from Transilvania) they , like Romanians too , see religion like a fundamental part of their identity so they cherish it even if they are not actual religious people. So if I were you, I wont put all my money on the Hungarian muslim conversion. Well its good enough for a start. Poor areas thus cheap ass houses. Dont worry, give us a few years and will buy western Hungary too ;D ;D ;D I have read an article about it some time ago, I will try to find the link and post it. It was about the fact the at the local swimming pool Romanian became "official" language. Over 80% spoke it. When the clients of the above mentioned swimming pool are 80% Romanian wanna bet whos language will learn the swimming pool owner and his employees ? ****************************************************** Anyway , the example wasnt intended for boasting who assimilates who or something like that. It was just an example for Oszkar how you dont need to dream about some kind of WW3 or Kosovo to happen , with enough money you can topple any border. But for that you need a pragmatic policy.
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Post by dezboy on Aug 14, 2009 12:16:57 GMT -5
I had register and log in, these statements by the Roumanian only reaffirm what I and the West have known for a long time. What a mistake the E.U. made
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Post by lvl100 on Aug 14, 2009 16:08:05 GMT -5
I had register and log in, these statements by the Roumanian only reaffirm what I and the West have known for a long time. What a mistake the E.U. made Wow, young blood to these aged forums or still one of the old inhabitants ?
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Post by oszkarthehun on Aug 15, 2009 23:29:23 GMT -5
I know your half kidding, but Hungary is by European standards quite an old country/nation state, she has been through more difficult and harsher times in the past and survived, she will continue to do so.
And even though there is a certain element of (in my oppinion) rugged Hungarian individualisticness, but for the most part there is a strong underlying sense of Hungarianess and the historicalness of Hungarian nation etched deeply in the collective subconscious of the Hungarian mind and spirit.
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Post by diurpaneus on Aug 16, 2009 7:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by oszkarthehun on Aug 17, 2009 2:01:03 GMT -5
well nothing new, Romanians have throughout the centuries always been moving to Hungary hehe.
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Post by lvl100 on Aug 17, 2009 3:15:30 GMT -5
well nothing new, Romanians have throughout the centuries always been moving to Hungary hehe. Freedom for Battonya ! This piece of ancient Romanian land must be liberated from the oppressive Hungarian yoke. I know a border revision has little chances to happen, but never say never. Remember Kosovo ! Freedom for Battonya !
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Post by diurpaneus on Aug 17, 2009 3:57:31 GMT -5
If this video doesn't touch you, then you have no soul
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Post by wbb on Aug 20, 2009 6:33:45 GMT -5
Really? cool then we gonna assimilate them into Hungarian society and they will become "Magyarised-"Turkised". We not good at ethnic cleansing but we are very good at assimilating people. dream on boy, Jobbik is gaining power everyday in Hungary. They would radicalised the hungarian society. Those Hungarian-born romanians want to be Hungarians and they will teach the new arrive Romanians to be Hungarians too.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Aug 20, 2009 19:51:37 GMT -5
well nothing new, Romanians have throughout the centuries always been moving to Hungary hehe. Freedom for Battonya ! This piece of ancient Romanian land must be liberated from the oppressive Hungarian yoke. I know a border revision has little chances to happen, but never say never. Remember Kosovo ! Freedom for Battonya ! Battonya or Batanja or Bătania is also a Serbian village (with lots of Romanians and Hungarians off course). I was there like 10 -15 years ago, participating in Serbian soccer tournament (where lots of Serbians from places all over Hungary made up soccer teams). One of the famous persons from Batanja was wrestler Branko Aleksandra Ljubic. www.worldclasswrestling.info/lubichbio.htm
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Post by wbb on Aug 21, 2009 5:57:41 GMT -5
Thank you Shonic, that clearly shows that Battonya is a multi-ethnic village and not romanian. So i hope those Romanian expansionist will forget their claims on Battonya. lol ;D ;D
What a bad day for Romanian nationalist, now we have Serbian claim on Battonya. lol lol ;D ;D
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Post by yeni on Aug 23, 2009 19:17:48 GMT -5
Battonya is a Hungarian majority village with Serbian as second and Romanian as the third biggest ethnic group. As far as i know there is only one Serbian majority village in Hungary (Lorev/Lovra) and one Romanian (Mehkerek/Micherechi).
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