wbb
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Post by wbb on Aug 22, 2009 6:27:38 GMT -5
Boldog Ramadan Yeni bacsi, es e tobbi magyarok.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Aug 22, 2009 21:59:43 GMT -5
Happy Ramadan Guys
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yeni
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Post by yeni on Aug 23, 2009 18:46:18 GMT -5
köszi, neked is.
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ioan
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Post by ioan on Aug 28, 2009 11:57:55 GMT -5
arent all hungarians catholic?
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Post by lvl100 on Aug 28, 2009 13:50:21 GMT -5
arent all hungarians catholic? Damn ! Now you did it. We all played along , pretending that we believe in Hungarian muslims just to make wbb feel good. And now you you ruined everything by letting him know the truth
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Post by oszkarthehun on Aug 30, 2009 8:33:11 GMT -5
arent all hungarians catholic? Hungarian Catholics, they are only a minority in Hungarian Forums 2 Hungarian Muslims and and one Hungarian Orthodox here
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Sept 2, 2009 22:06:09 GMT -5
arent all hungarians catholic? 2/3 of Hungarians are Roman Catholics and 1/3 are Protestants (Calvinists, Lutherans, Bapthists......). Earlier it was 1/3 of Roman Catholics and 2/3 of Protestants. "Much of the population of the Kingdom of Hungary adopted Protestantism during the sixteenth century. After the 1526 Battle of Mohács the Hungarian people were disillusioned by the ability of the government to protect them and turned to the faith which would infuse them with the strength necessary to resist the invader.[citation needed] They found this in the teaching of the Protestant Reformers such as Luther. The spread of Protestantism in the country was aided by its large ethnic German minority, which could understand and translate the writings of Martin Luther. While Lutheranism gained a foothold among the German-speaking population, Calvinism became widely accepted among ethnic Hungarians.[9] In the more independent northwest the rulers and priests, protected now by the Habsburg Monarchy which had taken the field to fight the Turks, defended the old Catholic faith. They dragged the Protestants to prison and the stake wherever they could. Such strong measures only fanned the flames of protest, however.[citation needed] Leaders of the Protestants included Matthias Biro Devai, Michael Sztarai, and Stephen Kis Szegedi. Protestants likely formed a majority of Hungary's population at the close of the sixteenth century, but Counter-Reformation efforts in the seventeenth century reconverted a majority of the kingdom to Catholicism.[10] A significant Protestant minority remained, most of it adhering to the Calvinist faith." BTW...
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Post by lvl100 on Sept 2, 2009 23:58:36 GMT -5
arent all hungarians catholic? 2/3 of Hungarians are Roman Catholics and 1/3 are Protestants (Calvinists, Lutherans, Bapthists......). Protestants are just different flavors of Catholics. There are also Uniates who are just a Catholic + Orthodox mishmash. Whats interesting for the Hungarian census is that they leaved whole chunks of 11% and 14% at unspecified and unaffiliated categories. Thats 1/4 of population ! They either try to hide something or the population seems to quit on religion an masse.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Sept 3, 2009 2:09:50 GMT -5
arent all hungarians catholic? 2/3 of Hungarians are Roman Catholics and 1/3 are Protestants (Calvinists, Lutherans, Bapthists......). Protestants are just different flavors of Catholics. There are also Uniates who are just a Catholic + Orthodox mishmash. Whats interesting for the Hungarian census is that they leaved whole chunks of 11% and 14% at unspecified and unaffiliated categories. Thats 1/4 of population ! They either try to hide something or the population seems to quit on religion an masse. I think comparativey Hungarians are not overly religious , not as much as Poles and Greeks for instance. However communism didnt have the same affect encouraging atheism as it did in countries like Albania.
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Post by lvl100 on Sept 3, 2009 6:09:41 GMT -5
I think comparativey Hungarians are not overly religious , not as much as Poles and Greeks for instance. I`m not talking about "religiosity". The amount of faith cant be actually gathered by a census. But what a census can gather is how the population sees religion as part of their identity. For example. Romania is 89% Orthodox. I can guarantee you that at least 30% either go only 1 or 2 times /year at church or not at all. So they are not actually religious , but still , they continue to identify themselves with Orthodoxy. Beside Romania, the other neighbors are the same , other/ unknown/ atheist all together are not more then 5-6% of total population. Thats why seems so strange why for Hungary the other/ unknown/ atheist section altogether has a whooping 25% Either your governments have something to hide or Hungarians really started to lose not only their religion , but most important their traditions.
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yeni
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Post by yeni on Sept 3, 2009 14:55:37 GMT -5
lol. historically yes protestants grew up from Catholicism, but based on their practicies i always thought Catholicism and Orthodoxia are much closer to each other. Anglicans and Lutherans are also quite close to the Catholicism but i wouldn't call Calvinism, Unitarianism, Baptism and the neo protestant sects as different flavors of Catholics.
its around 14 % in Hungary who declared themself to be atheist and another 10% who "did not wish to answer". in Slovenia, Czech Republic, Estonia and Germany these numbers (who are atheist and those who don't want to tell it) are even higher. It seems to me Romania and in other orthodox countries religion is more important part of the national identity.
those 10% who didnt want to tell about their faith in Hungary probably think this is a too "sensitive data" and its not the state's business. they can be atheists, members of smaller faiths etc. and some older ppl still remember that once these religious infos were used for persecution so maybe this can also be a reason.
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Post by lvl100 on Sept 4, 2009 0:33:49 GMT -5
lol. historically yes protestants grew up from Catholicism, but based on their practicies i always thought Catholicism and Orthodoxia are much closer to each other. Anglicans and Lutherans are also quite close to the Catholicism but i wouldn't call Calvinism, Unitarianism, Baptism and the neo protestant sects as different flavors of Catholics. I`m not really familiar with what they preach , but as methodology , from church designs to how they hold the mass , they are definitely catholic flavor. Lol, you`re right. I just checked .The Czechs have an almost 70% of other/unknown/atheist. Honestly , at first I thought that maybe wbb was right , and the the Islam really do take over Hungary and maybe Hungarian leadership wanted to hide that. But now I see thats because only Orthodox countries kept their high dominance of the church. The Catholic and its flavors dont.
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