Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Aug 28, 2009 9:58:37 GMT -5
"As for Ioannina, I'll keep it here. In your fantasy, Albanians are imperialistic terrorists, and I would like to reinforce this stereotype. "
LMAO, Logik, Albanians can only be plain terrorists, not "imperialistic" terrorists, you dont know the meaning of this word.
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Post by L0gjICK on Aug 28, 2009 10:06:12 GMT -5
Imperialism : (n) imperialism (a policy of extending your rule over foreign countries) : (n) imperialism (a political orientation that advocates imperial interests) : (n) imperialism (any instance of aggressive extension of authority) wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=imperialismHence my map and our "imperialistic" goals. Besides the whole world knows who the real terrorists are. The only ones that are in denial are the Serbs themselves, and well...... you.
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Post by Pejoni on Aug 28, 2009 10:06:55 GMT -5
We have one country to be grateful, America. For what EU would care, Kosovo would still been occupied by Serbia.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Aug 28, 2009 12:10:13 GMT -5
We have one country to be grateful, America. For what EU would care, Kosovo would still been occupied by Serbia. what would you be without EU's money?
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Post by leshte on Aug 28, 2009 13:08:25 GMT -5
If it was for Europe there would be no Albania or probably even Albanians today in the balkans. (Woodrow Willson and Bill Clinton) As long as uncle Sam is there EU and you guys can't do $hit. US runs the show. It might not even be too far fetched for some of these protests to be pushed by uncle Sam just so the Europe knows what can be done and what can't be done without uncle Sam. Uncle Sam runs the show; make no mistake about it.
What would you be without EU's and US money? Don't act like you're the $hit; you're as broke as can be. You got a bunch of people from the US and UK in your country right now looking at your books to determine whether you're even worth to be given loans. Cut the bul$hit for at least once. Winter is around the corner. Who are you going to beg this time around for a little warmth?
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Aug 28, 2009 17:57:51 GMT -5
If it was for Europe there would be no Albania or probably even Albanians today in the balkans. (Woodrow Willson and Bill Clinton) As long as uncle Sam is there EU and you guys can't do $hit. US runs the show. It might not even be too far fetched for some of these protests to be pushed by uncle Sam just so the Europe knows what can be done and what can't be done without uncle Sam. Uncle Sam runs the show; make no mistake about it. What would you be without EU's and US money? Don't act like you're the $hit; you're as broke as can be. You got a bunch of people from the US and UK in your country right now looking at your books to determine whether you're even worth to be given loans. Cut the bul$hit for at least once. Winter is around the corner. Who are you going to beg this time around for a little warmth? Whaaat? Wasnt it you who said we only got USA to thank.. I said whos giving you the money, It is the EU and look what you are doing.. Serbia is a whole other level than Kosovo... Dont even try make it look like its the same standards... Just look at the events that have occur in Serbia theese two last years.. Everything from world cups in different sports to big music events. I dont see that stuff happening in Bosnia,Moldova,Kosovo,Albania, and other shitholes in Europe.. U should be licking the dirt on those trucks and not destroying them. Ungratefull people you are..
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Post by vinjak on Aug 28, 2009 18:32:24 GMT -5
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Post by leshte on Aug 28, 2009 22:54:07 GMT -5
Yea there's a basketball game once in a while after all embassies are burned in that $hithole you call Serbia. By the way, you borrow billions just to feed your masses. What levels are you speaking about. Apparently the masses are not fed. You got strikes and protests on a weekly basis. Not only that but you're asking again for billions to feed your population. Winter time comes and you beg for warmth the same countries whose embassies you burn.
Vinjak, last time I checked they just caught 2 Serbs responsible for killing 200 and some people. If the world knows anything about Serbs they certainly know what to associate them with.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Aug 29, 2009 5:49:42 GMT -5
Yea there's a basketball game once in a while after all embassies are burned in that $hithole you call Serbia. By the way, you borrow billions just to feed your masses. What levels are you speaking about. Apparently the masses are not fed. You got strikes and protests on a weekly basis. Not only that but you're asking again for billions to feed your population. Winter time comes and you beg for warmth the same countries whose embassies you burn. Vinjak, last time I checked they just caught 2 Serbs responsible for killing 200 and some people. If the world knows anything about Serbs they certainly know what to associate them with. U sure dont know much dont you?
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Post by Pejoni on Aug 29, 2009 9:03:22 GMT -5
We have one country to be grateful, America. For what EU would care, Kosovo would still been occupied by Serbia. what would you be without EU's money? Parivodic added that last year Serbia received a total of €800 million in foreign aid, and that the same amount is expected this year. www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900sid/VBOL-6LDKMN?OpenDocument
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Aug 29, 2009 10:01:07 GMT -5
You people are crazy.. I didnt say Serbia dont recive funds, every EX/YU country does that.. But shqipos got independence thank to the EU countrys and now they are bashing their institutes in Kosovo....
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Post by donnie on Sept 13, 2009 7:39:27 GMT -5
Kosovare Albanians are demonstrating their anger towards their limited government thanks to Western Control. Good for them. i hate to be frank, but the west is the reason why kosovo albanians have any government control over kosovo. if it wasnt for the west, belgrade would have direct control over kosovo a long time ago, and most of the kosovo albanians wouldve fled to albania, and from there alot of them would head for western europe and USA/canada/australia/NZ. kosovo albanians should be very greatful to having their limited government. they are effectively out of belgrades reach, and can more or less run kosovo independantly, and celebrate and teach their culture, language and history to its peoples, BUT,... the price is under the supervision of EU/NATO. they can generally run their own affairs internally, but EU/NATO has the last say on matters it deems as important to them. this is the price kosovo albanians have to pay in order to be free from belgrades rule, because kosovo's independance was by UN law illegal, so EU/NATO needs to run things to what they see fit, to keep kosovo out of belgrade's reach, because as soon as EU/NATO pull its forces out of there, and give up the will to enforce kosovo staying separate from serbia,.... then serbian forces will move in to reclaim its lost territory, together with russian forces, and russian peacekeepers to keep belgrades grip on kosovo. So ironic that a Croat of all people posts this. If we must think in terms of debts and owing favors, then we still don't owe the West (except the US) anything, simply because this situation wouldn't of been if it wasn't for the Great Powers to begin with. Those who fervently supported us now were the same powers that supported Kosova's annexation by Serbia 1912 (see London Conference, 1913). By liberating us 1999 and recognizing our unilateral declaration of independence 2008, they are the ones paying back for wronging us earlier. Having said that, we fought for liberty. We didn't fight to trade one invader for another. Certainly the complexity of Kosova's legal status within former Yugoslavia has made things more difficult, hence why we're in this position today. But the word "never" as in things will never change in this regard, is a little to definite. Serbia has already lost Kosova forever, and gradually we'll be strengthening our grip over our own state as time proceeds. One example of this is the gradual and constant reduction of KFOR presence in Kosova. Certainly Nato knows it cannot carry this out by risking the security. Some sort of replacement by an indigenous military organ, stronger than the current FSK, will have to occur. Conclusively, we're not ungrateful for the military intervention 1999, nor are we ungrateful of the recognitions we've received by the most prominent members of EU. But why should we accept the undermining of what little sovereignty we have by Serbia, as if EU's limitations of it aren't enough?It is our right and duty to protest ... the manner in which people do it is a different issue altogether, and people might object to Vetevendosje's 'radical' methods, but you'd understand their frustration if you'd open your mind a little. EULEX should be seen as a temporary solution, and the competences still held by it and the UN should ultimately in the end be overtaken by Kosova's parliament and government, otherwise if status quo continues forever, we'll never receive true democracy. And nothing you say can change the fact that we deserve it no less than you Croats or the Serbs, which essentially is what you're saying, and thats despicable.
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 13, 2009 10:16:29 GMT -5
"Those who fervently supported us now were the same powers that supported Kosova's annexation by Serbia 1912 (see London Conference, 1913). By liberating us 1999 and recognizing our unilateral declaration of independence 2008, they are the ones paying back for wronging us earlier."
this is a rather naive if you really mean what you wrote!! They had wronged you in 1913? ha ha, they were only doing what they thought it served their interests better. Take France/USA for example, they have been benefited by Serbia numerous times in WWI, WII and look how they paid Serbia back.... Now, if you think that those guys "owe" anything to the most uncivilized/non-western/muslim/hostile nation of the balkans (albs), who never by no means EVER helped any french/briton/american as an ally .... THINK TWICE DUDE!
If the smartest albs are thinking like this, this is enough of*guarantee that Kosovo will be in Serbia's control much earlier than expected.
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 13, 2009 23:27:05 GMT -5
Pokemon, you are amazing. You are displaying naiveness of a 3yr old, and still pretend to be a grown up? Dude, your writing style is of the average dump joe, with extremely simplistic views on certain basic mechanisms in life. The only difficult part in your text, was for someone to understand the greatness of your simplicity and naiveness, before assuming that you are joking.
Now, please tell me, do you really *believe* what you wrote?
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Post by Fender on Sept 14, 2009 5:25:35 GMT -5
i hate to be frank, but the west is the reason why kosovo albanians have any government control over kosovo. if it wasnt for the west, belgrade would have direct control over kosovo a long time ago, and most of the kosovo albanians wouldve fled to albania, and from there alot of them would head for western europe and USA/canada/australia/NZ. kosovo albanians should be very greatful to having their limited government. they are effectively out of belgrades reach, and can more or less run kosovo independantly, and celebrate and teach their culture, language and history to its peoples, BUT,... the price is under the supervision of EU/NATO. they can generally run their own affairs internally, but EU/NATO has the last say on matters it deems as important to them. this is the price kosovo albanians have to pay in order to be free from belgrades rule, because kosovo's independance was by UN law illegal, so EU/NATO needs to run things to what they see fit, to keep kosovo out of belgrade's reach, because as soon as EU/NATO pull its forces out of there, and give up the will to enforce kosovo staying separate from serbia,.... then serbian forces will move in to reclaim its lost territory, together with russian forces, and russian peacekeepers to keep belgrades grip on kosovo. So ironic that a Croat of all people posts this. If we must think in terms of debts and owing favors, then we still don't owe the West (except the US) anything, simply because this situation wouldn't of been if it wasn't for the Great Powers to begin with. Those who fervently supported us now were the same powers that supported Kosova's annexation by Serbia 1912 (see London Conference, 1913). By liberating us 1999 and recognizing our unilateral declaration of independence 2008, they are the ones paying back for wronging us earlier. Having said that, we fought for liberty. We didn't fight to trade one invader for another. Certainly the complexity of Kosova's legal status within former Yugoslavia has made things more difficult, hence why we're in this position today. But the word "never" as in things will never change in this regard, is a little to definite. Serbia has already lost Kosova forever, and gradually we'll be strengthening our grip over our own state as time proceeds. One example of this is the gradual and constant reduction of KFOR presence in Kosova. Certainly Nato knows it cannot carry this out by risking the security. Some sort of replacement by an indigenous military organ, stronger than the current FSK, will have to occur. Conclusively, we're not ungrateful for the military intervention 1999, nor are we ungrateful of the recognitions we've received by the most prominent members of EU. But why should we accept the undermining of what little sovereignty we have by Serbia, as if EU's limitations of it aren't enough?It is our right and duty to protest ... the manner in which people do it is a different issue altogether, and people might object to Vetevendosje's 'radical' methods, but you'd understand their frustration if you'd open your mind a little. EULEX should be seen as a temporary solution, and the competences still held by it and the UN should ultimately in the end be overtaken by Kosova's parliament and government, otherwise if status quo continues forever, we'll never receive true democracy. And nothing you say can change the fact that we deserve it no less than you Croats or the Serbs, which essentially is what you're saying, and thats despicable. still spreading lies I see.
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