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Post by tyson on Aug 27, 2009 0:02:25 GMT -5
www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=3.0.3666977693Bosnia: Muslim spiritual leader urges more Sharia lawSarajevo, 17 August (AKI) – Bosnia’s Muslim spiritual leader, Reiss-ul-Ulema Mustafa Ceric, has drawn strong criticism from moderate Muslims and from Bosnian Serbs, after he called for Islamic Sharia law to be incorporated into the Bosnian constitution. Ceric made the controversial suggestion when he conducted Bosnia's first Sharia mass wedding on Saturday in the central city of Zenica. Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi reportedly paid for the weddings for the 20 couples and some 500 guests. “In this exceptional place, in the exceptional city of Zenica, we are witnessing a magnificent event,” Ceric said. “I hope this is only the beginning and that we will have many such occasions in the years to come,” he added. Ceric is no stranger to controversy, and his pronouncements often trigger a heated reaction. In May, while visiting a Muslim community in Serbia’s Muslim-majority Sandzak region bordering Montenegro, Ceric said "no force could separate" Muslims in Serbia from those in Bosnia, which he has described as a homeland for Muslims. Strict Sharia law drastically reduces the rights of women, allows polygamy for men, forbids marrying non-Muslims and sanctions cruel penalties including stoning. Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik reacted angrily to Ceric's remarks, saying he was deliberately ignoring the presence of Serbs and Croats in Muslim-majority Bosnia. Serbs are mainly Orthdox while Croats are Catholic Christians. Ceric’s pronouncement concealed a Muslim drive to dominate the whole country, Dodik claimed. Ceric’s statements drew sharp criticism from moderate Muslims. One commentator on the daily 24 hours website wrote: “Nothing else could be expected from Ceric.” He is known for glorifying the Ottoman invaders who ruled the Balkans for six centuries, converting local population to Islam. During 50 years of Communist rule, Bosnian Muslims practised a moderate form of Islam, or declared themselves atheists. But radical forms of Islam began to take root in the country after thousands of fighters from Muslim countries, especially North Africa, arrived to fight on the side of local Muslims in the 1992-1995 civil war.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Aug 27, 2009 0:18:29 GMT -5
I've seen Mustafa Ceric arguing on the side of Jews with an Arab somewhere on the youtube. I think he is just a pious religious man that naturally draws him to the conclusions he makes. That's how I judge him. It's quite obvious that his opinions though have no capacity to find common ground with Serbs. It's obvious this will never happen which is why I look forward to further autonomy for Republika Srpska. Muslim is practically the opposite of Serb. We will be better off as neighbours.
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Post by fazlinho on Aug 27, 2009 5:05:49 GMT -5
Oh how did I already know this... you get an article about sharia law and all you get is "he celebrated a mass wedding according to Islamic law" I mean Do you really expect the world to take you seriously with such BS?? Really you should work harder to find something to label us as hardcore talibans... Anyways, for those who don't know (who are the majority) this article makes no sense because wedding in an islamic way is already 100% legal in Bosnia, since years and years ,you need first to make the wedding in the municipality, than you can go at the mosque and get a full Islamic wedding. And noone every said we can't be good neighbours, of course we can, just pack everything up, go to Serbia and we will, the thing is whatever the internal administrative division may be, it will Bosnia and Herzegovina forever
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Post by tito on Aug 27, 2009 5:55:53 GMT -5
Reis Ceriæ: Beogradu se nije lahko naviknuti na našu slobodu 10.08.2009 Posjeta delegacije Islamske zajednice u Bosni i Hercegovini Kosovu je više nego uspješna i više od naših oèekivanje, rekao je u razgovoru za "Dnevni avaz" reisu-l-ulema Mustafa ef. Ceriæ nakon završetka trodnevne zvaniène posjete Prištini. - Dva su osnovna cilja posjete Kosovu. Prvi je sumiranje posljedica raspada bivše Jugoslavije u kojoj su Albanci i Bošnjaci bili organizirani u jednu IZ sa sjedištem u Sarajevu. A drugi je razumijevanje stanja nakon osamostaljivanja ove dvije islamske zajednice te razmatranja moguænosti za buduæu meðusobnu suradnju - kaže ef. Ceriæ.
Sa Vama je bio i glavni muftija u Srbiji Muamer ef. Zukorliæ. Zašto? - Glavni muftija u Srbiji Muamer ef. Zukorliæ i rektor Internacionalnog univerziteta u Novom Pazaru Mevlud ef. Dudiæ zamoljeni su da budu u delegaciji IZBiH, koja je posjetila Kosovo, zato što je Sandžak u bivšoj Jugoslaviji bio pod administrativnom upravom Odbora IZ u Prištini i zato što je Sandžak važan za buduæe odnose izmeðu Albanaca i Bošnjaka u okviru suradnje Islamske zajednice na Kosovu i IZBiH.
Veoma važnim ocijenjen je i Vaš susret s predsjednikom Kosova, što je izazvalo i velike reakcije u medijima? - Naravno, susret s predsjednikom Fatmirom Sejdiuom cijenim kao simbol prijateljstva i želje za suradnjom izmeðu Albanaca i Bošnjaka u najširem smislu te rijeèi. U gotovo jednosatnom otvorenom razgovoru, predsjednika Sejdiua doživio sam kao blisku osobu, kao da smo se više puta sreli. Osjetio sam blagost u njegovim rijeèima i izraze poštovanja prema nama. S osmijehom na licu i toplinom u duši primio je naš poklon - Šerifovièev Kur'an. Preporuèio nam je - muftiji Trnavi i meni - da suraðujemo za dobrobit svih i da razvijamo meðuvjerski dijalog kao temelj buduæih dobrih odnosa na Balkanu i u Evropi.
Uslijedila je žestoka reakcija srpskih politièara u BiH... - Nisam iznenaðen bahatošæu srpske politike u Bosni i Hercegovini, ali jesam iznenaðen sljepoæom politièara koji neæe da vide da se raða novi dan. Jer, oni koji Bosnu i Hercegovinu drže u blokadi, koji osporavaju da država BiH ima svoju himnu, koji se protive da Državni parlament usvoji rezoluciju Evropskog parlamenta o Srebrenici kojom se 11. juli proglašava danom sjeæanja na genocid, oni koji opstruiraju donošenje potrebnih zakona za slobodni vizni režim svih graðana BiH, onaj koji, odnosno premijer države BiH, godinama prodaje praznu prièu da bi nas što duže i što dublje držao u blokadi, koja sve više lièi na koncentracioni logor, u kojem su Sarajlije živjele èetiri pune godine - ti, dakle, nemaju pravo da nam govore gdje možemo iæi, s kim se možemo družiti i s kim možemo saveze sklapati. Oni trebaju shvatiti da je prošlo vrijeme ucjena. Èuvanje hatra srpskoj politici Bošnjake vodi u propast. Uvažavajuæi da ne povrijedimo nerazumne zahtjeve srpska politika nas unazaðuje u svakom pogledu. Znajuæi za te naše obzire i strahove, srpska politika samo pojaèava svoje ucjene i opstrukcije, èesto i na vlastitu štetu, ali neka živi "inad politika". No, oni zaboravljaju da vrijeme "inad politike" prolazi, da prolazi vrijeme straha i neslobode. Politika "njet" je potrošena. Ovo je vrijeme "da" slobodi i napretku svih ljudi i naroda. Ovo je vrijeme u kojem naša djeca imaju pravo na edukaciju i na slobodu kretanja. Ovo je vrijeme u kojem se ne može graditi sreæa na nesreæi drugoga. Prošlo je vrijeme ratova. Ovo je vrijeme mira i suradnje svih naroda na Balkanu i u Evropi. Što prije to svi shvatimo, bit æe nam svima bolje.
Nisu Vas poštedjeli ni mediji u Srbiji. - Ja to donekle i razumijem. Jer, teže se oduèiti ili odviknuti od starih navika, nego nauèiti ili naviknuti se na nove navike. Beograd još živi sa nekim starim navikama, kao što je navika da nam Beograd propisuje gdje možemo a gdje ne možemo da idemo te s kim možemo, a s kim ne možemo da se družimo. Dakle, razumijem da se Beogradu nije lahko naviknuti na našu slobodu, ali ako hoæe, mi æemo im pomoæi da shvate da je ovdje na Balkanu definitivno jasno da ili æemo svi biti slobodni ili niko neæe biti slobodan. To je istina koja treba da nas sve obavezuje.
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Post by fazlinho on Aug 27, 2009 10:38:22 GMT -5
btw, this was the video Arsenije saw
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Post by Username on Aug 28, 2009 13:25:25 GMT -5
Where does it actually say that he said he wants Sharia law? I don't see it anywhere in the article? Is this some bs propaganda.. cause from what I hear, that guy's very liberal.. but if it's true, then he can go to hell. ;D
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 28, 2009 14:40:48 GMT -5
With a recent trip to Kosovo and with his trip to Sanzak its clear that Ceric wants to closen ties between the Islamic communities in the Balkans. Its very common among the Orthodox clergy to do so so why not among the Islamic ones as well?
In the end, clergymen are just politicians with weird robes.
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Post by tito on Aug 29, 2009 2:13:01 GMT -5
"Kome, ba, da se mi prilagoðavamo? Nek' se oni nama prilagoðavaju! Dosta je bilo našeg prilagoðavanja! Sad je vrijeme da se oni nama prilagode!"
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Post by MiG on Aug 29, 2009 2:20:06 GMT -5
Ma kako da ne.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Sept 1, 2009 19:23:40 GMT -5
who the fvck cares about that old dude... Even the bosniaks dont give a damn
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