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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 6, 2009 16:02:14 GMT -5
I fully agree. What was 1981 again?
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 6, 2009 16:02:50 GMT -5
Any way to galas xithikai.... George is in... and there is nothing we can say to change this. We should all support him.. for the benefit of our country.
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 6, 2009 16:09:34 GMT -5
Thats a forum and there isnt anything we can change by discussing about it. But we discuss nevertheless because a forum-discussion is simply always ending in itself.
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 6, 2009 16:14:14 GMT -5
George just started; 1st day as PM... and abolishment of "Ministry of Macedonia & Thrace". It changes name to "ÃåíéêÞ Ãñáììáôåßá Ìáêåäïíßáò - ÈñÜêçò" under! "õðïõñãåßï Åóùôåñéêþí". taxalia.blogspot.com/2009/10/blog-post_656.html Welcome! Americans are in a hurry.... and their representative in Greece couldnt wait a day..! Why not having a Ministry of Moria and Roumeli...or Crete and Myconos...etc etc.... I never understood this ministry's role... And i've read that two yphipourgeia will have the responsibilities of this ministry both based in Thessalonice. Btw 4 of the 7 vouleutes of Thessalonike ypourgopoiountai... in the rest 3 are icluded Yorgakis himself.... Arapoglou(future mayor) and Eva Kaili( ;D).. And from the 300.000 people Achaia, only one yphipourgos... Katsifaras... Giati aisthanomai oti i Thessaloniki... einai ligo simantikoteri topothesia stin xora ama thelei na epikratisei sta Valkania... ligo omos... .. kai oti i Makedonia-Thraki... einai ligo megalytera apo tin Roumeli-Moria-Mykono- Crete ola mazi... ligo omos..... ..kai min griniazeis gia Achaia kai eksousia. Se oli tin istoria tis Elladas.. apo ypourgous kai prothipourgous kai genika koumanto kanate monoi sas. Ypo katoxi tis Achaias kai tis Kritis itan i ypolipi Ellada. Min griniazeis tora.. Pantos genika.. den tou dinane kapoio rolo to ypourgeio Makedonias-Thrakis. Malakas eisai pou tha dinan rolo se kati ekso apo Athina... kai eidika stin Thessaloniki?
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 6, 2009 16:17:20 GMT -5
^ Kastor you can't compare the quality of life that one Greek family had in 1980 and in 2000... i mera me ti nihta... But the phainomena neoploutismou were, of course, unavoidable...we still have as people. Akrivos gia afto gamithike i Ellada. Giati zousame pio plousia kai apo tous Germanous... xoris i Ellada na einai Germania omos! Me ksena lefta kai daneia.. kai ego zo sa pasas. Meta omos ti ginetai pou prepei na ta dosoume piso..
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Patrinos
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 6, 2009 16:57:47 GMT -5
Ypo katoxi tis Achaias kai tis Kritis itan i ypolipi Ellada. Min griniazeis tora.. An xerane greeklish ta skopiana tha to kanane tampela... kai esy tha ginosoun o alytrotos adelfos pou epitelous ekfrastike...... ;D ;D... Pantos i oikonomia apokleietai na ftiachnotan me pagoma misthon kai genika tis agoras... opos elege o Karamanlis... .H oikonomia xreiazetai erethismata gia na kinithei, kai mia nea kyvernisi ta dinei auta... akoma kai na mi kanei tipota, mono kai mono apo ti psychologia tis agoras...ama kinithei sosta diaxronika tha mporesei na mpei i oikonomia se kalo dromo... Ego euxaristiemai pou ta duo megala kommata exoun parei habari oti o laos einai apaititikos kai den sughorei pia koutsoukeles... kai an den doixnoun ta kommata tous lopodites tous dioxnoun oi polites stis ekloges.... Ena terastio pososto auton pou ekanan ypourgou kai yphypourgoi ta teleutaia pente xronia einai exo...oxi mono apo ti simerini vouli alla apo tin politiki genika(Pavlopoulos, Alogoskoufis etc etc)... Kai o Giorgakis simera edose ena simantiko deigma grafis, me pano apo tous misous nea prosopa... apalagmeno apo tous ontos sixamerous Simitikous...
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 6, 2009 17:08:34 GMT -5
Otan prokeite gia epistrofi eklegetai i Nea Dimokratia....
Auto den katalawainoun autoi oi Papandreoulaftres...wlepoun mono tis ameses sinepeies tis politikis tou...ochi to ti tha ginotan aurio kai methaurio... Efapax sto full me kati posa na trelenesai...sintaksi sta 50...kai kathe tritos ergazomenos sto dimosio...oute Louksembourgo na'tan....
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Patrinos
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 6, 2009 17:18:27 GMT -5
Kai go diafono m'auta ta apisteuta pronomia tou dimosiou. Giati den ta ekopse maxairi o Kostakis kai perimenoume koinotikes odigies gia na paroume mpros...?
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 6, 2009 17:21:59 GMT -5
Ypo katoxi tis Achaias kai tis Kritis itan i ypolipi Ellada. Min griniazeis tora.. An xerane greeklish ta skopiana tha to kanane tampela... kai esy tha ginosoun o alytrotos adelfos pou epitelous ekfrastike...... ;D ;D... Pantos i oikonomia apokleietai na ftiachnotan me pagoma misthon kai genika tis agoras... opos elege o Karamanlis... .H oikonomia xreiazetai erethismata gia na kinithei, kai mia nea kyvernisi ta dinei auta... akoma kai na mi kanei tipota, mono kai mono apo ti psychologia tis agoras...ama kinithei sosta diaxronika tha mporesei na mpei i oikonomia se kalo dromo... Ego euxaristiemai pou ta duo megala kommata exoun parei habari oti o laos einai apaititikos kai den sughorei pia koutsoukeles... kai an den doixnoun ta kommata tous lopodites tous dioxnoun oi polites stis ekloges.... Ena terastio pososto auton pou ekanan ypourgou kai yphypourgoi ta teleutaia pente xronia einai exo...oxi mono apo ti simerini vouli alla apo tin politiki genika(Pavlopoulos, Alogoskoufis etc etc)... Kai o Giorgakis simera edose ena simantiko deigma grafis, me pano apo tous misous nea prosopa... apalagmeno apo tous ontos sixamerous Simitikous... o laos den sigchorei? Ma ti les tora...prin eksi chronia eichame simiti...posa chronia echei to skandalo me to chrimatistirio..? kai tora echoume pali pasok...me 44% parakalo!!!...o ellinikos laos einai wlakas...auto ekmetaleuontai oi politikoi mas (idika oi pasokides) kai tora tha sinechisoun ta sinithismena se ligo...oute kan na elpizetai me to amerikanaki......eiste idi katadikasmenoi choris na to parete champari...tha me thimitheite...
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Patrinos
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 6, 2009 17:32:23 GMT -5
Me tis ugeies mas... ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 6, 2009 17:33:47 GMT -5
Kai go diafono m'auta ta apisteuta pronomia tou dimosiou. Giati den ta ekopse maxairi o Kostakis kai perimenoume koinotikes odigies gia na paroume mpros...? Am giati? Isos epeidi meta den tha eperne oute 10% stis ekloges i Nea Dimokratia...na giati...auto enoo me aneuthini politiki...kalomathe o Andrikos ton lao...ton echose mesa...kai tora poios tha tolmisei na ta anakalesei ola auta? Kai etsi ochi mono den anakalese...alla ekane kata kapoion wathmo kai i Nea Dimokratia ta idia...sou leei allios den echei alli tetraetia...kai etsi tha pigainei autos o kiklos kai den prokeite na wgei pote i Ellada apo tin miseria. Auto ennooume otan leme politiki choris euthini...o Andrikos ewale poli kaka themelia ta opoia itan omos poli ischira kai kratan os simera.
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 9, 2009 8:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 9, 2009 8:44:31 GMT -5
papandreou is going to konstaninople tonight ! He is going to take part in a balkan meeting. The turks want to meet him ;D... erdogan changed his plans last minute to go and meet him when this meeting was intended for foreign ministers only. It seems he is off to a running start. This guy looks serious which is good. He kept the FM for himself which is something I was hoping for. If he travels half as much as his turkish counterpart Davotoglu does then I will be a supporter of him. Who knows, he might actually put Greece back on the map We were missing for the past 6 years..
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 9, 2009 19:56:20 GMT -5
M'auto to pleuro na koimasai kai esi...agathe.
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 12, 2009 13:24:05 GMT -5
M'auto to pleuro na koimasai kai esi...agathe. ;D ;D ;D ;D ..you're true about it. Some years before he was pushing PM of Cyprous to accept.. Annan Plan! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 12, 2009 14:44:56 GMT -5
the guy on his first tip when to konstantinople and met with turk FM and erdogan. He is moving around doing public relations...today he was at the olympic buildings with a spanish architect to see how to improve the city.
For some funny reason i actually think this guy is going to try hard. As far as the annan plan as you say....he accepted it knowing the cypriots would reject it. Why put Greece in a tightspot for nothing ? Karamanlis was going to do the same...his ypourgoi pressured him not to. Accepting the annan plan was a tactical maneuver in politics..and guess what ? Now ppl will see Greece in a more constructive way with this PM.
Keep in mind i was never a pasoktzi....and i always had doubts about " jeffrey " ;D I have a funny feeling he will surprise some ppl for the better...i hope i dont jinx myself...LOL
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 12, 2009 14:47:48 GMT -5
all in all, we need a person that will travel and talk to ppl. Why is it that the turk is doing that and getting all the results ? Iran, Syria, Isreal, ....the turk is all over the place. We were sitting around doing nothing...a mere spectator. Jefferey didnt even get a chance to sit down and he's already planning and talking to ppl. I like that... Its good for Greece...
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Post by Kassandros on Oct 12, 2009 15:14:22 GMT -5
Karamanlis just said back then.. "let Cypriots decide. Its their land, their homes, their problem, they're the occupied ones. Greece will be neutral and will accept whatever decision Cypriots take". Whats better than that?
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Post by Kastorianos on Oct 12, 2009 16:12:13 GMT -5
M'auto to pleuro na koimasai kai esi...agathe. ;D ;D ;D ;D ..you're true about it. Some years before he was pushing PM of Cyprous to accept.. Annan Plan! ;D ;D ;D Sowara milas? Eeee chalkedon ksipna...den pame kala..tha papso na se perno sta sowara apo edo kai sto eksis..
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Post by chalkedon on Oct 12, 2009 16:41:05 GMT -5
File...ta leo opos ta vlepo.
Telos panton tha diksi..makari na kani kati kalo gia tin xora. Peirazi pou exo elpida ? ;D Oti kai na leme tora...einai noreis.
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