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Post by insomniac on Oct 28, 2009 22:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by donnie on Oct 29, 2009 14:44:56 GMT -5
Interesting documentary. I believe their strong health is inherently linked to diet, permendur vetem kalimthi ne dokumentar. Milk, as one of them said, is fundamental in their diet; I can guess they probably ate and eat little red meat, getting their proteins mainly from dairy products & beans, perhaps eggs too to a smaller degree. Vegetables and fruits is probably an essential part of their diet as well .. prodhime mielli were probably rare too, buka e thekres me e zakonshme. Finally they're probably physically active too ... walking from Vithkuq to Konispol isn't a short distance on foot.
PS Look at the elderly Albanians after some fifteen minutes ... got to love them. Ngrohtesia shqiptare e personifikuar do te thoja.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 29, 2009 15:43:32 GMT -5
To live longer than 100 years you should; Living in villages or towns near mountain with clean climate Drinking mountain spring water Eating fresh and quality variation food Drinking a glass red wine every meal for lunch or dinner Eating variation fresh fruits Eating yogurt every night Drinking whey every morning before eating breakfast Using electricity or wood for worming and cooking at homes Walking 3-5 miles everyday ... Watch Video Song Ermira BabaLiu (From city Korca) Wine Salesman (In Albanian) It all Greats started in Albania!
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Post by insomniac on Oct 29, 2009 15:50:39 GMT -5
Interesting documentary. I believe their strong health is inherently linked to diet, permendur vetem kalimthi ne dokumentar. Milk, as one of them said, is fundamental in their diet; I can guess they probably ate and eat little red meat, getting their proteins mainly from dairy products & beans, perhaps eggs too to a smaller degree. Vegetables and fruits is probably an essential part of their diet as well .. prodhime mielli were probably rare too, buka e thekres me e zakonshme. Finally they're probably physically active too ... walking from Vithkuq to Konispol isn't a short distance on foot. PS Look at the elderly Albanians after some fifteen minutes ... got to love them. Ngrohtesia shqiptare e personifikuar do te thoja. It's a mix of climate, diet and even walking. Very nice hard working people. They have kept their village quite well themselves. Self-sufficient.
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Post by donnie on Oct 30, 2009 8:33:27 GMT -5
Read this article; www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/native_americans.htmlIt is very interesting, concerning the diet of Native Americans before they adopted 'Western' lifestyles and diet. Conditions and diseases considered as normal today were seemingly unknown in their society, such as obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, various cancer forms etc. They were very healthy and strong. Height/stature is often seen as an indicator of well being and health, and 19th century Native Americans were taller than North American Whites, and considerably taller than Europeans. Their immune system was also at top level, with cases where Indians recovered remarkably fast after serious wounds; The early explorers consistently described the native Americans as tall and well formed. Of the Indians of Texas, the explorer Cabeza de Vaca wrote, "The men could run after a deer for an entire day without resting and without apparent fatigue. . . one man near seven feet in stature. . . runs down a buffalo on foot and slays it with his knife or lance, as he runs by its side."7 The Indians were difficult to kill. De Vaca reports on an Indian "traversed by an arrow. . . he does not die but recovers from his wound." Vithkuqi is also such a place. The diet isn't the same as that of Native Americans, but still very traditional in its own sense. With increased economic development and modernization, a change from traditional lifestyles to sedentary lives with little activity and adopting western foods and an increased intake of red meats will probably result in a situation comparable to Greece, where cardiovascular diseases have increased significiantly and obesity has reached alarming proportions. PS One interesting fact about Native American traditional diet is that grease and guts were essential parts of it. Meat was also consumed, but they especially prized animal fat found in big wild animals of the plains, like the Buffalo. Most of these fats were saturated fats, today criticized by dietists as unhealthy ... this article however goes in the opposite direction and says this was the main part of their diet and still the Indians were in excellent shape. I think an intermediary position is best here; consuming animal fats isn't so dangerous when you're physically active, and the Native Americans were as physically active as you could get. They needed all the grease they could come over ... whereas as today, living a sedentary lifestyle with minimal physical activity, surely over-consuming of any type of food will lead to some problem.
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Post by insomniac on Oct 30, 2009 13:47:47 GMT -5
Nobody has time to read all the labels in food products. It's a safe bet to say to eat organic. Sometimes, i go to an organic-only market. But yeah generally fish, lean meat, nonfatty milk, nuts are good for you.
I've noticed the change as well myself. i was very active as a child in albania. all activities i did involved the physical environment. now in a western country most of the time people here are sitting whether in work or at home.
thanx for the link dijedon. native american way of life reminds me a little of albanians.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Oct 30, 2009 15:32:33 GMT -5
America has destroyed my family's health. Even before we came to the US I noticed how my dad was. sure he has aged considerably since then but once he entered the US his health went down considerably and he ballooned in only a short few years. In Albania during communism I remember my parents all talking about the 50 sum sports they would play. My uncle and my dad would swim regularly in Vlora, sometimes for hours on end without stopping. In school my aunt was very much into javelin throwing and other such sports.
It makes me sad to see the fotos of my dad in his youth and seeing how fit he was and then comparing it to how he became after we arrived in the US...
When I was young fish was something we ate all the time in Albania... now its rare that I eat it once a month. Im starting to get back into eating it, but its difficult... the price of fish is high!!! One salmon I bought two weeks ago to cook for dinner cost seven bucks! In Albania I remember buying it off of local fishermen for nothing (although I heard this has changed also).
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 30, 2009 16:21:47 GMT -5
In school my aunt was very much into javelin throwing and other such sports. O Lapush AliTosku, Is Gjergj Nikolla or Kastriot Malaj your aunt in Vlora they both great for men's Javelin throw in Albania. Maybe Enver Dani? Coach Meleq still practising Track and Field? Cheers, Myself Paris Hercules Father Of Olympics & Father Of Javelin
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Post by bordura on Oct 30, 2009 19:54:57 GMT -5
In school my aunt was very much into javelin throwing and other such sports. O Lapush AliTosku, Is Gjergj Nikolla or Kastriot Malaj your aunt in Vlora they both great for men's Javelin throw in Albania. Maybe Enver Dani? Coach Meleq still practising Track and Field? dude: sikur te kishte halla/tezja koqe do quhej daje/xhaje aunt he said, not uncle
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Post by albquietman on Oct 31, 2009 0:12:40 GMT -5
America has destroyed my family's health. Even before we came to the US I noticed how my dad was. sure he has aged considerably since then but once he entered the US his health went down considerably and he ballooned in only a short few years. In Albania during communism I remember my parents all talking about the 50 sum sports they would play. My uncle and my dad would swim regularly in Vlora, sometimes for hours on end without stopping. In school my aunt was very much into javelin throwing and other such sports. It makes me sad to see the fotos of my dad in his youth and seeing how fit he was and then comparing it to how he became after we arrived in the US... When I was young fish was something we ate all the time in Albania... now its rare that I eat it once a month. Im starting to get back into eating it, but its difficult... the price of fish is high!!! One salmon I bought two weeks ago to cook for dinner cost seven bucks! In Albania I remember buying it off of local fishermen for nothing (although I heard this has changed also). Melty, America doesn't destroy your health if you choose not to, and by that I mean it's your choice what you want and like to eat. Nobody is telling you to eat junk food, and 7 bucks for salmon is not that expensive, when you think that it costs more to get a meal at McDonalds...I think when people get fat try to find excuses and blame it to the food that they are offered to buy without thinking that there are choices out there. It's up to us to make the choices, not the fast food chains and the country we live in... P.S. By the way, long time posting here...how you guys are doing? By reading your posts seems like you're doing fine, and I'm glad to see that .
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Post by todhrimencuri on Oct 31, 2009 1:53:44 GMT -5
Its not just eating, its also the stress and overexhaustion. I see it happen to many of the Alb immigrants.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 31, 2009 9:32:08 GMT -5
dude: sikur te kishte halla/tezja koqe do quhej daje/xhaje nuk ka bere vaki ndonjehere qe femra vlonjate te hedhi shtize keshtu qe tezja/halla nga Vlora ka te ngjare te kete koqe per hedhur shtizen qe duhet ti therrasish xha ose daje.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Nov 13, 2009 12:47:44 GMT -5
If you want live more than 100 years old just listen Mysic from city Scutari in Albania Video Here, Nice Shkodra Songs!
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