donnie
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Post by donnie on Jan 21, 2010 8:18:55 GMT -5
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 21, 2010 8:58:05 GMT -5
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tyson
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Post by tyson on Jan 21, 2010 9:27:00 GMT -5
thats disgraceful that the guy is getting fined for giving away free bread after the shop has closed business for the day. the fine says that he was selling bread to customers after hours, but he didnt sell anything, he simply gave the bread away, because its a waste to throw it away. these inspectors are just trying to create revenue for the local government, so they try too hard to give out fines. obviously they havnt been generating enough revenue, so they are resulting to doing dirty tactics. hopefully he gets refunded for the fine. Anyway what's with Albanians and owning bakeries? In Beograd there are bakeries also owned by Albans. thats just their type of thing. they tend to be small business operators, selling food, whether its bakery, ice cream shop or fast food shops, like cevapcici eateries there's so many albanians running bakeries in croatia along the coast from dubrovnik, all the way up to rijeka and istra. i'm not sure how its in northern inland croatia, as i've never been there yet, but i'm guessin its the same thing.
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donnie
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Post by donnie on Jan 21, 2010 10:13:59 GMT -5
I guess it became a lucrative business for Albanians during the Yugoslav days and stayed that way. They're mostly from FYROM and Has (Western Kosova) ,,, this guy's surname, Qenaj, reveals that he is from Has, which has had a tradition in history as bakers ( furraxhinj in our language, pekari in Croatian?) ... bakeries/pastries and jewellery in Croatia is largely in the hands of Albs, the former being dominated by our compatriots from Hasi and Macedonia, the latter by our compatriots of the Catholic confession. I heard Albanian frequently in Makarska and Dubrovnik, so you're probably right.
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Post by L0gjICK on Jan 21, 2010 10:46:49 GMT -5
There was a saying about the YU that went along something like "The Further South you went, the poorer it was." Albanians in the FYROM lived in some of the worst conditions out of the YU and many of them left for the West and more developed areas in YU for work. My father's whole village worked in Bor, Serbia which I heard was a huge mining site.
In addition, the Albanians in Yugoslavia were at a disadvantage at competing for governmental jobs compared to Yugoslavians. Prejudice aside, the language skills of Albanians was poor compared to a Yugoslav since their native language was Albanian and their primary school education was in Albania. Therefore, businesses such as bakeries, ice cream shops and etc (where language skills were not as important) were used as a means for income in YU.
Actually once the borders opened up in Albania, many Albos from the FYROM opened up restaurants and hotels in places such as Durres.
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gavrilo
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Post by gavrilo on Jan 21, 2010 12:15:42 GMT -5
the bakery down the street from my house in NS is albanian. its called pekara jordan.
my family owned a bunch of bakeries in NS before the war. We had a succesful and respected business. Hopefully we can get back and restart it one of these years.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 21, 2010 14:16:37 GMT -5
Truth be told, thats a very very Albanian thing. Its an absolute sin to waste anything. I used to get yelled at by my grandmother for throwing away even a piece of bread. If I can't finish anything, I either give it up for someone or finish it later... throwing it away is so rarely an option.
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Post by L0gjICK on Jan 21, 2010 14:38:24 GMT -5
Truth be told, thats a very very Albanian thing. Its an absolute sin to waste anything. I used to get yelled at by my grandmother for throwing away even a piece of bread. If I can't finish anything, I either give it up for someone or finish it later... throwing it away is so rarely an option. I think its more of Muslim thing. My parents would always say it was "gjynah/gjnaf" (meaning a sin) to throw out bread or to not finish your plate.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 21, 2010 14:50:45 GMT -5
Probably just a pre-industrial cultural thing. I doubt peasants had as much access to food as we do today...
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Post by leshte on Jan 21, 2010 15:43:00 GMT -5
Yea not a muslim thing at all. Us non-muslims, non-religious people, used to get yelled as well for not finishing the plate or throwing out bread or wasting food. Although it probably has to do with all those food rations the communists used to put in place. When there is only a certain amount of food that a dictatorship allows you to buy you do not want it to go to waste.
If I'm not mistaken Durres has more Kosova entrepreneurs than Albanians from Macedonia now.
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MiG
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Post by MiG on Jan 21, 2010 17:03:56 GMT -5
Seems like a good man. Glad he got the award, he deserves it.
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