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Post by Nikola on Jan 29, 2010 17:32:07 GMT -5
The people you are posting look mostly Balkan people. Some could pass as northern Slavs, some as Bulgarians, etc, but most would not. I agree with you that we are not the same though. But I think the mistake you make is to assume that Greeks look "correct" and everyone else "foreign". Yes, we look foreign to Greece but we are not in Greece. We are in a different country.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 29, 2010 17:37:17 GMT -5
Yes Kilkis area was inhabited mainly if not exclusively by Bulgarians till the pop.exchanges. today you're right, about the Pontians, they're the vast majority there.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 29, 2010 17:41:59 GMT -5
The people you are posting look mostly Balkan people. Some could pass as northern Slavs, some as Bulgarians, etc, but most would not. I agree with you that we are not the same though. But I think the mistake you make is to assume that Greeks look "correct" and everyone else "foreign". Yes, we look foreign to Greece but we are not in Greece. We are in a different country. Most Albanians look foreign to Greece, but i think they don't look foreign for the neighborhood. Thats what i meant. At least from the photos of the deputies, a great percentage doesn't have balkan look but rather a northern/slavic.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 29, 2010 17:47:19 GMT -5
Tell me the origin of these three women...
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Post by Nikola on Jan 29, 2010 17:50:13 GMT -5
Most Albanians look foreign to Greece, but i think they don't look foreign for the neighborhood. Thats what i meant. So do you think that Serbians are also foreign to the Balkans?
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 29, 2010 17:53:24 GMT -5
Tell me the origin of these three women... Sicilian? nothing slavic with them though. more greco-balkan. The two right could be found in Crete too. The first has something slightly albanian, i don't know.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 29, 2010 18:01:32 GMT -5
Most Albanians look foreign to Greece, but i think they don't look foreign for the neighborhood. Thats what i meant. So do you think that Serbians are also foreign to the Balkans? From the Serbians i've seen from close, and on photos on net, i can say that they have a big percentage of people who don't look "foreign", and i don't doubt that among Fyromians there is an also important percentage of people indigenous in balkans that is visible in today people physiognomy, but i couldn't say the majority... i don't give a schit if a balkan population is or isn't indigenous here as long as it respects history...and be moderate.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 29, 2010 18:10:05 GMT -5
Autous ti tous kaneis?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 29, 2010 18:25:43 GMT -5
Just took a quick evaluation of the faces (186 faces total)
- Balkanic look ....................................(64 faces or 34.4%) - 'Greek' look .......................................(48 faces or 25.8%) (or look much more found in Greece then elsewhere in the vicinity) (To avoid Confusion Greeks mainly belong to two above types) - Mixed Slavic/Balkanic look ...............(23 faces or 12.3%) - Slavic look .......................................(19 faces or 10.2%) - Turkic (Turanid) look .......................(12 faces or 6.5%) - 'Gypsy' or mixed Gypsy ...................(11 faces or 5.9%) - Nordic or Scandinavian ...................(5 faces or 2.7%) - Mixed or Unidentifiable ...................(4 faces or 2.1%)
*Turanids and 'Gypsies' here looks mixed with locals *Balkanic looks more crude and more influenced by UP (Upper Paleolithic with more exaggerated features.. one ex. is Dinarics) *Greek look is more med, more symmetrical and more refined.
So rough draft of the faces is that -1/3 looks Balkanic -1/8 mixed Slavic/Balkanic -1/10 looks Slavic -1/4 looks Greek -1/8 looks Asian
All in all 60.2% looks native (Balkanic and 'Greek') (Balkan look would be Thracians, Dorians and Illyrians) (Balkan look is bascially Mountain Greeks ;D ;D ;D ) ('Greek' look would be Minoans etc) Additional 24.7% looks like deluted natives
---------------- Total 84.9% look native and partially or mainly native
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 29, 2010 18:40:57 GMT -5
Autous ti tous kaneis? olous tha tous katalavaina oti itan Ellines, o Konstantaras kai o Hatzihristos leipei apo ti fotografia... den moiazoun katholou me tis paliofatses apo pano...ki as isante stin Kastoria. Oloi autoi Kastorianoi einai? O antras pou einai deuteros apo ta dexia kato exei ligo arketo makrosteno kefali, kai xehorizei ligo apo tous allous.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 29, 2010 18:52:18 GMT -5
i don't give a schit if a balkan population is or isn't indigenous here as long as it respects history...and be moderate.
if you were correct (about most looks slavic) then they would care less about those issues.
they care because they are locals that act in a manner that greeks disprove (such as arrogance, stubbornness, pride and spite ... you know that pan-balkan values ;D ;D ;D )
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Post by Nikola on Jan 29, 2010 18:54:57 GMT -5
A handful look middle eastern. Overall...they are ugly That's because I didn't cheat, I just chose randomly mostly normal people. And most normal people are ugly. In every country. Now if I did cheat, then you would get something more like this. ;D
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Post by Nikola on Jan 29, 2010 18:57:38 GMT -5
From the Serbians i've seen from close, and on photos on net, i can say that they have a big percentage of people who don't look "foreign", and i don't doubt that among Fyromians there is an also important percentage of people indigenous in balkans that is visible in today people physiognomy, but i couldn't say the majority... I think most people agree that of all the Slavic countries, we are the least Slavic.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 29, 2010 19:05:56 GMT -5
Nai Kastorianoi. Terma aristera einai o pappous mou (mikrasiatis de)...gia Konstantara pou les etsi ton fonazan tote legan oti miazei ton Konstantara.... Oi dio antres terma deksia (diladi kai o paraksenos pou les) einai aderfia tis giagias mou. I giagia mou einai i ginaika stin mesi apo tis treis nees kopeles stin foto pou sou edeiksa pio prin. I gria stin mesi mia pithami pou einai einai theia tis giagias mou...i pleura auti einai ntopia Kastoriani. Oi ipolipoi poioi einai den ksero...isos filoi isos siggeneis makrinoi tha se gelaso... Autos pou les oti diaferei apo tous allous miazei poli me ton patera mou. Einai malista kai o monos pou zei akoma... na mia pio sigchroni tou... ;D
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Post by terroreign on Jan 29, 2010 21:27:17 GMT -5
Patrinos - your pictures scared me lol they got me thinking that you altered them in photoshop
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Post by L0gjICK on Jan 30, 2010 10:07:45 GMT -5
Nikola what program did you use to make those picture collages?
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Post by Nikola on Jan 30, 2010 11:42:23 GMT -5
Just Photoshop. I copy the image from Facebook, and then paste it on a blank page in Photoshop. The hard part is arranging them so they fill up the page properly.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Jan 30, 2010 12:35:33 GMT -5
Korca is very close to Macedonia and there is a lot of resemblance btween the people across from us in Monastir (Bitola). This is my father's brother:
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Post by Nikola on Jan 30, 2010 17:45:38 GMT -5
I've had this on my hard drive for a while.
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 4, 2010 1:00:01 GMT -5
melty,cant really tell from the distance.need a close up.
and nikola,the greenery looks southeast asian/tropical like
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