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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 10, 2010 23:33:41 GMT -5
I can confirm, same fact here in Sweden. Educated Turks or middle class ppl you won't find many of them here. I don't think they would ever leave TR for a factory job abroad. These ppl had a life at their home. Well known was the fact that the ones who came, were mostly those from the south-east, poor and uneducated. And you can also see it on their faces - kurds, a total lack of sofistication. Often adressed as "the kebab boys". hahah Hellboy, is that you on the pic? I'd like to see Janni and thracian's pics, come on guys.. Yes thats me in the picture. Btw rhezus,this was the 1960 and 70's when the Turks left.At those days,the country was made up of mostly peasants.The people that left Turkey were from all over but from the Central to East Turkey was where most left for Europe. Most of those who left were not Kurds.The non-Kurds included Anatolian Turks and muhacirs as well.Cem Ozdemir,a German Turk,is a Circassian,at least partly. These are the guest workers I'm talking about.
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Post by chalkedon on Feb 11, 2010 3:36:21 GMT -5
You are our favourite Indian. Wanna get the Greek citizenship? ;D ^^^ LoL ! kalooooo ;D Just strap hellboy in a HAF F-16 and let him go to work
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 11, 2010 6:47:43 GMT -5
Most of the immigration from Turkey to the UK was Kurdish. The Turkish Cypriots and Kurds are very different in appearance. By the way HB, the picture u talk of is when I was about 16 years old I am 30 years old now, but u can keep thinking what u like. I can post a picture of myself here at some point, but I may have in the past said Turks are white, after living here for 3 years almost I can clearly state Turks are MIXED they are light and dark, they are all very different from each other, they look latino and then they look irish, they can look mixed race or they can look central asian. you can see many different types of people in Turkey. I look latino in the summer and different in the winter when I am paler. I am MIXED Turkish, Greek, Bulgarian, Egyptian, Yoruk and I think Kurdish although I am not sure. about that part
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 11, 2010 7:23:44 GMT -5
whatever it is,most German Turks are NOT Kurds.The immigration to Europe as guest workers decades ago mostly from East Anatolia from the 1960 till 1970's.
The "Turks",included muhacirs too since muhacirs were also settled in Eastern Anatolia.And we know many muhacirs called themselves "Turks".
There is no "Latino" look unless you're talking about the Mestizo look.Bottom line is,most Anatolian Turks resemble Middle Easterners and North Africans with skin tones ranging from pale to very tann,brownish-like.
Again,those European looking types are mostly the Balkanians and Caucasians.
And then you have many of them who have married with Anatolian Turks,therefore,adding more European looking "Turks" who call themselves such.
But fact is,like I've said,Anatolian Turks look West Asian mostly.
I dont know about migration from Turkey to the UK since the UK did not take in guest workers,or at least did not took guest workers in from Turkey.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 11, 2010 7:48:36 GMT -5
"Novi, Hellboy always rolls with the punches"
Yeah l know, nah, hellboy is alright.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 11, 2010 7:52:26 GMT -5
"novi,I'm actually half Punjabi.My mom's parents come the northern part of the Indian subcontinent from the region of Punjab."
Really, oh thats right, l remember, if l'm not mistaken your dads mum is Turkish, right. Is your dad mixed indian/turkish?, just asking out of curiousity.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 11, 2010 8:47:21 GMT -5
I cannot comment on Germany. I can comment on the UK by using stats www.researchasylum.org.uk/?lid=1304www.nta.nhs.uk/publications/documents/4_kurdish_turkish_cypriot_turkish_final.pdfMost of these people are concentrated in London, therefore many people assume that because they speak Turkish they are Turks, and associate there general behaviour and characteristics, with the whole of Turkey. Whereas these people represent a very small group of Kurds that live in the SE of Turkey, and not the Kurds who live in other cities, generally who behave moreso as all other nationals of Turkey do. Lookswise similarily they are darker than the rest of the nation. I can clearly explain another issue, generally when a kurd gets in trouble he states his ethnicity as Turkish, but when he wants guidance or help he states himself to be an ethnic Kurd, I have worked in a Solicitors office that specialise in immigration and similar issues, I have had first hand experience with Kurdish people and discussed many things with them. One of them asked me out on a date in fact, and just out of curiosty I went. the scenario he presented to the immigration board was that as a Kurd he had been persecuted and tortured in turkey and he had a scar on his leg to prove it. When we went out, he confessed to e that in fact he hadn't been tortured nor persecuted, that the scar on his leg was from an accident. i asked why he came to the UK and he explained it was for the money. Having said this, i also came across Turks that called themseleves Kurds, said they were persecuted etc to get their stay of leave. Thats why when people come up to me with things like Turkey is bad, Turks are racists etc.... I just smile because all is not as it seems.
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