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Post by leandros nikon on Feb 22, 2010 15:16:59 GMT -5
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 22, 2010 15:48:24 GMT -5
both
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 22, 2010 17:20:26 GMT -5
The second is not right since if Greece gets anything it will be credits and no subventions (as lost bounty) or sth.
As for the first one....as prosechan. ;D
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Post by mystery on Feb 23, 2010 20:41:41 GMT -5
Stop with your whining about ww2 reparations. Greece got a shitload of cash from the US to rebuild the country while most countries didn't.. Greece barely got hit. Such pussies.
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 23, 2010 21:10:01 GMT -5
Greece won the war for the Allies....
Tell that phrase to the 75,000 dead Italians up in northern Greece and the 450,000 dead Greeks...
Now I realize you're just a dumb arse.. and the only place you would use that phrase is in the safety of your home behind your keyboard...same place you masturbate.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 24, 2010 2:30:45 GMT -5
Greece got nothing as reparations in relation to the losses we had and the way we were drew into the war and thats a fact. An Albanian is not in the position to judge us. Capito?
You welcomed the Italian occupying forces with flowers and things like that...always the same with you...with the Ottomans you did the same. Buyable rats. You have no besa no nothing. And you have the audactity to let the word "Greek" cross your lips in this context?
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 24, 2010 6:11:54 GMT -5
Yesterday i watched a very interesting show of Hardavellas with amazing martyries by living persons who show their parents, brothers and sisters etc to be killed in front of the by laughing Germans. 90 years old men to cry today like they are kids and that they don't want to see a German in front of them or even listen german.
Albanians conquered Rome if you don't know it...:
Judging from Albanians and Germans in WWII i can say that people diachronicaly don't change, Germans would always be the real barbarians deep inside with terrible barbaric insticts like they had for over two millenia and the Albanians would always be the icoglans of any foreign invader and welcome them without any sense of pride and dignity.
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 24, 2010 7:24:11 GMT -5
Germans not only killed more than half a million Greeks directly or indirectly(by famine) but they destroyed the country economically taking all the gold reserves of the Greek state and made the "Quisling" government to take huge loans that were used by the occupiers to feed their army... loans that were never stopped to be paid...
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 24, 2010 8:49:32 GMT -5
The Germans did never have a problem with the Greeks. The attrocities within Greece were not committed because of a particular hate and passion. They were always direct reactions (although very disproportional) against actions of Greek rebells against the Germany army. In contrast to the attrocities against the Serbs who they did always dislike since WWI and which were often committed without reason...just in order to abase them.
Dont you know the German saying from this time? "Serbien muss sterbien"...its a wordplay. "Sterben" means die, but they said sterbIen..which is the wordplay. All in all...Serbia must die. Such emotions did never exist towards the Greeks.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 24, 2010 8:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 24, 2010 9:36:29 GMT -5
The Germans did never have a problem with the Greeks. The attrocities within Greece were not committed because of a particular hate and passion. They were always direct reactions (although very disproportional) against actions of Greek rebells against the Germany army. i can't believe that i am reading this.... really... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 24, 2010 9:53:19 GMT -5
Greece's deficit is not worse than other countries. Some figures taken from Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung (German Newspaper): Total debt of Greece(GR) 179% GDP, Total debt (av.) of EU 175% GDP. Some other countries: Holland 234%, Ireland 222%, Belgium 219%, Spain 207%, Italy 197%. Ireland's external debt is 444% GDP (GR 89%). Japan's public debt was 135,4% GDP in 2000 and 197,2% in 2010 (GR 125% in 2010). Looks like everybody is in debt. So what is the purpose of this vicious attack? ![](http://i50.tinypic.com/1roglw.jpg)
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 24, 2010 11:17:13 GMT -5
The Germans did never have a problem with the Greeks. The attrocities within Greece were not committed because of a particular hate and passion. They were always direct reactions (although very disproportional) against actions of Greek rebells against the Germany army. i can't believe that i am reading this.... really... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) You better believe it since this is the truth.
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 24, 2010 12:12:36 GMT -5
Right now Germany is on my chitlist.... until they do or say something positive for Greece thats where they'll be.
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 24, 2010 12:16:02 GMT -5
i can't believe that i am reading this.... really... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) You better believe it since this is the truth. do they write such things in their books... i though they are pretending to be regretted... ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) what should we do... act like alvanous,skopianous and voulgarous and welcome them with open arms and assess... ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) i can't believe i make a dialogue like this with a Greek...
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 24, 2010 13:31:19 GMT -5
Did I say the rebels were bad? The rebels were heroes. They did very good in fighting the nazis. I just wanted to give you to understand that the Germans did never have a problem with the Greeks per se. Greece and the Greeks did never form a concept that evoked feelings of hatred within the German people.
Take as an example the Bulgarians...when they occupied north western Greece during the war they often abused the population without any reason...people were treated like s.hit by the Bulgarian soldiers...on the streets...everywhere. Simply because at this time the Bulgarians felt a lot of hate for us. The Germans did not do such things. They did only kill (although innocent civilists usually) if soldiers of them were killed. They did generally treat the Greeks with much more respect than other enslaved peoples...if we can talk about respect in this context. But you understand what I mean...
Actually the ordinary people are on Greece's side. They usually say that first of all the EU should have controlled Greece better before taking it into the Eurozone and secondly that Germany should not complain since its not much better off than Greece. The German people are very self-critical people and do always favor the foreign side from their own in case of doubt. They dont really love their country...although they say they do...but for me they dont since they do hardly get emotional because of their country and its affairs. Very different from us.... This one article was written by a journalist...and btw its not that offending...it shows an Afroditi representing Greece with the finger directed at the EU. Since thats what Europe does feel Greece's stance was in past and today towards it (in his opinion).
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Post by albquietman on Feb 24, 2010 18:17:21 GMT -5
Greece won the war for the Allies.... Tell that phrase to the 75,000 dead Italians up in northern Greece and the 450,000 dead Greeks... Now I realize you're just a dumb arse.. and the only place you would use that phrase is in the safety of your home behind your keyboard...same place you masturbate. I'm not sure if your numbers above make Greece a winner...and you knowing where he masturbates it's a little disturbing... ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 24, 2010 20:08:37 GMT -5
^ He is 19... and originally his keyboard wasn't that heavy. Oh..you know the story ..tell us. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by todhrimencuri on Feb 24, 2010 21:35:57 GMT -5
Oh... so sad... too bad Germans cant hear it with the sound of an economy that isnt imploding as we speak...
Im crying for them...
As much as I am a fan of Realpolitik, and as pathetic as your posts are... I will say, we will always help those who help us against our enemies, be they German or Italian. These two countries had no problems with us, they did not come in to kill us. They hated the very people we hated: Serbs, and presented themselves as liberators after a brutal regime in Kosovo. They came with flowers, not rifles and even said that they were going to leave once things were in order. In my Albanian eyes, anyone who is an enemy of Serbs and Slavs and kills Communists... is a great friend. Anyone who also ends up killing Greeks, well... he is an adelphotetos.
Oh and this is from a person whose grandfather was a Partizani in the south and fought against the Germans under the banner of a despicable Communist star... These people caused nothing but trouble. Because of their "heroism" needless civilians would lose their lives and needless villages were burnt down. The Nazis completely destroyed the city of Erseke in Kolonja (where my grandfather was from) because of these ideological morons... Hundreds of people lost their lives in air raids and shellings because some socialist goat wanted to prove a point.
I would take a lesson from the Melian Dialogue if I were you... it is a very good piece of writing.
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Post by ngadhnjyesi on Feb 24, 2010 21:51:53 GMT -5
Nothing more musing than confused Greek debating confused German and each trying to hold the higher moral ground.
Funniest was Canadian guy claiming Greeks won the war for the Allies.
I'm finally realizing everything I've ever learned has been wrong. Thanks guys.
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