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Post by mystery on May 2, 2010 20:26:07 GMT -5
This isn't a thread on to bash Macedonia..
Can anyone give me a accurate report on the current Macedonia demographics? I've been reading reports that say Albanians are near 40% while others say they are near 18%.
Any info?
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Post by Nikola on May 3, 2010 7:42:09 GMT -5
Even with falsified figures, they barely got over 25%. The real figures are probably closer to 18%, like you mentioned. Though I think those figures go up and down, depending on if it's holiday season or not. A lot of Albanians come back to Macedonia for a break.
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Post by logjiktek on May 3, 2010 21:21:23 GMT -5
Falsified figures, by who? There was international monitoring of the census done in 2002. In 1994, the Albanians even refused to partake in the census because they felt their numbers would be underestimated and the Slavs still estimated 20% of the population was Albanian. Fact is, Tito gave benefits for Macedonians. Subsidized apartments and loans were given to the point where my hometown in Kercova has a Slavic presence which is only in felt in the city. The towns and villages surrounding Kercova (which were part of Kercova before 2002) are all excusively Albanian. Oslemaj and Zajaz are 99.99% Albanian! So how come the city has a Macedonian presence. Who do you gave these Slavs the apartments in the city? Albanians obviously could not compete with the Slavs with the preferential treatments and they moved abroad. Mostly to the West (you know this very well, I think you claimed 90% of the plane you went on to Shkup had Albanian passengers ), and there was a mass exodus to Turkey as well (the majority of these Albanians are now Turks today.) Like I've always said, I've visited Macedonia god knows how many times and I've yet to learn their language. Why? Because I can get around Western Macedonia with my Albanian tongue as if I was in Kosova, Albania or Southern Montenegro. The only reason why the number would even decrease is if the exodus of Albanians to the West is greater then the rate of birth. And honestly, this could be a possibility. We all saw how desperate some of the Albanians in Macedonia were to move to Belgium.......
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Post by logjiktek on May 3, 2010 21:32:50 GMT -5
www.mia.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=33&vId=72830871&lId=1Look at this, and maybe one of the Macedonians, Bulgarians or Serbs can provide a better translation. But, if you do the math, more then 25% of the classes are taught in Albanian language at the respective schools. We can even assume that most of children that take the Albanian language are predominately Albanian (although Macedonain Slavs learning the Albanian language has increased) and since all Albanians are required to learn Macedonian,a good portion of the Macedonian classes have Albanian students. You can see where I'm going with this logic. I wonder if they did a demographics on the kids in school? It would be interesting to see their results. But again, I have heard stories about villages and towns in Macedonia (on the Albanian side) that are becoming full of women and older men. Most of the younger males have left for the West. I read a post on forumishqiptar about this as well.
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 3, 2010 22:41:38 GMT -5
same is happening with many villages and towns in Albania as well. Many of the young men are leaving abroad and sending back money.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 4, 2010 2:58:03 GMT -5
I would say its 1 in 5.
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Post by logjiktek on May 4, 2010 19:38:18 GMT -5
same is happening with many villages and towns in Albania as well. Many of the young men are leaving abroad and sending back money. So I've heard. It's fairly common in many places where the young males are moving abroad. Places, such as China, are even teaching the kids english at a young age to prepare them for their eventual destination to America. Based on what? Can you give us a Highduke source atleast so I can get a chuckle.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 4, 2010 20:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 4, 2010 20:16:29 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 5, 2010 5:41:09 GMT -5
"Based on what? Can you give us a Highduke source atleast so I can get a chuckle."
Whats wrong with you Bulgarians and Albanians? and whats this obsession with Highduke?, are you guys still having nightmares about him?
Albanians do not make up a third of vardar, at most would be 25%, you guys have a history of overcounting your numbers.
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Post by ivo on May 5, 2010 8:21:32 GMT -5
And you must have a history of mental retardation, that will be the only explanation for why you've turned out the way you have.. complete retard with possible homo tendencies.
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Post by mystery on May 5, 2010 16:53:19 GMT -5
same is happening with many villages and towns in Albania as well. Many of the young men are leaving abroad and sending back money. I imagine its like that in alot of countries. Everyone is trying to head to Western Europe. Eastern euro's, Africans, Turks, Asians, etc.. BTW, with the current economic depression in europe are people stop leaving? It's sad when they leave their country to only live in the streets in Major cities in the west. With the crisis in Greece I can imagine that no one is trying to enter and that people are coming back. Any info on this?
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 5, 2010 22:56:49 GMT -5
Please give some sources about this history. Please, by all means, present for us cases, not just your deficient brain. As for "Us and Bulgarians"... we are just attacking your ignorance. Nor are we "getting nightmares" from Highduke, just remembering how you pretty much suked his cok from every angle.
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Post by Kastorianos on May 5, 2010 23:53:36 GMT -5
The more albanians the better....dear albanians...please maul those skopjans.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 6, 2010 2:41:42 GMT -5
"As for "Us and Bulgarians"... we are just attacking your ignorance. Nor are we "getting nightmares" from Highduke, just remembering how you pretty much suked his cok from every angle."
Listen, young man, if you are here to attack me and maul me, do so by evidence, not by some fastasies. Have alook around at the other topics, have l not provided sources?, it seems you in particular have an ability to post an opinion but never manage to provide factual evidence.....am l wrong?
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 6, 2010 2:44:17 GMT -5
"And you must have a history of mental retardation, that will be the only explanation for why you've turned out the way you have.. complete retard with possible homo tendencies."
Here we go again, typical Bulgaro-Albanian defection of topics. Ask me wise one, are the Bulgari an Indo-European tribe?
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Post by rusebg on May 6, 2010 5:50:23 GMT -5
Are the Bulgari an Indo-European tribe?
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Post by ivo on May 6, 2010 9:01:11 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by rusebg on May 6, 2010 9:04:17 GMT -5
Of course you have. The essense here is slightly different, though - have you actually read them?
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Post by todhrimencuri on May 6, 2010 16:10:48 GMT -5
Bring sources on Albanian fabrication of numbers, which apparently is so "well known". Stop going about it Slavuntermench... bring evidence...
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