Trazi Vise
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May 20, 2010 11:59:24 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 20, 2010 11:59:24 GMT -5
Well hello everyone! I have been away for some time for various reasons. I can see that nothing much has changed here! ;D
Sorry to the other mods for having to take all the load, but I can see that there hasn't really been much action here anyway!
So how has everyone been?
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May 21, 2010 22:57:33 GMT -5
Post by SKORIC on May 21, 2010 22:57:33 GMT -5
You left?
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May 21, 2010 23:18:12 GMT -5
Post by MiG on May 21, 2010 23:18:12 GMT -5
^ LOL! Welcome back TV.
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May 22, 2010 7:04:08 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 22, 2010 7:04:08 GMT -5
it was the longest break I've had from here I think...clearly I didn't miss much lol!
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May 22, 2010 7:37:43 GMT -5
Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on May 22, 2010 7:37:43 GMT -5
Wow TV I just thought you were being a bitch and left without saying goodbye!
Skoric funny you rock up again the same time as TV. Still haven't stopped tugging over her hey.
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May 22, 2010 8:03:55 GMT -5
Post by SKORIC on May 22, 2010 8:03:55 GMT -5
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May 22, 2010 10:19:07 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 22, 2010 10:19:07 GMT -5
I know I didn't say anything, just needed a break from lots of things and didn't think to say bye bye :-)
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May 22, 2010 14:29:00 GMT -5
Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 22, 2010 14:29:00 GMT -5
Still drinking your morning tee at the pavelic cafe???
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May 23, 2010 10:39:31 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 23, 2010 10:39:31 GMT -5
Why of course I do, here I am with the handsome man himself ;D
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May 23, 2010 11:55:47 GMT -5
Post by king on May 23, 2010 11:55:47 GMT -5
LOL i thought you are democratic
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May 23, 2010 13:14:25 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 23, 2010 13:14:25 GMT -5
Oh my friend democracy did not exist on any side back in Croatia and it still doesn't sadly. It's didn't exist under the federation of states under Yugoslavia and even didn't exist under NDH.
Today my political views don't support any side. No party I believe best represents my views. Hence, I would need to start my own party going...something totally different than what anyone has ever seen. Something with total liberty...but that's a dream.
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May 23, 2010 13:24:43 GMT -5
Post by king on May 23, 2010 13:24:43 GMT -5
Oh my friend democracy did not exist on any side back in Croatia and it still doesn't sadly. It's didn't exist under the federation of states under Yugoslavia and even didn't exist under NDH. Today my political views don't support any side. No party I believe best represents my views. Hence, I would need to start my own party going...something totally different than what anyone has ever seen. Something with total liberty...but that's a dream. Do you like Pavelic and Ustasa Ideology? Or is the pic just for fun...?
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May 23, 2010 16:07:18 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 23, 2010 16:07:18 GMT -5
I admire the fact that he had some guts and determination to free Croatia and to become a democratic country again, however the regime and democracy came about the wrong time in European history.
The ustasa ideolgy was needed (and was established long before Pavelic came onto the scene). Without that, we would have had no defence and resistance to the offenders that wanted to take so much from Croatia but give very little back.
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May 23, 2010 23:48:23 GMT -5
Post by king on May 23, 2010 23:48:23 GMT -5
I admire the fact that he had some guts and determination to free Croatia and to become a democratic country again, however the regime and democracy came about the wrong time in European history. The ustasa ideolgy was needed (and was established long before Pavelic came onto the scene). Without that, we would have had no defence and resistance to the offenders that wanted to take so much from Croatia but give very little back. What aspects of ustasa-ideology do you like? Do you believe in the racial theories of the Ustasa too?
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May 24, 2010 11:01:17 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 24, 2010 11:01:17 GMT -5
Well there is no Ustasa constitution or ideal as such. The only ideology I like personally was that they wanted to fight for a free Croatia as volunteers. There is no "racial" theory as such either. As I said, the only thing specifying minorities is in the constitution of 1861 and that of Pavelic's time. In that constitution everyone was mentioned to have freedom and liberty in Croatia as CROATIANS. After all, some of the head figures were Jewish. So I'm not sure what you are getting at.
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May 24, 2010 11:05:48 GMT -5
Post by king on May 24, 2010 11:05:48 GMT -5
Well there is no Ustasa constitution or ideal as such. The only ideology I like personally was that they wanted to fight for a free Croatia as volunteers. There is no "racial" theory as such either. As I said, the only thing specifying minorities is in the constitution of 1861 and that of Pavelic's time. In that constitution everyone was mentioned to have freedom and liberty in Croatia as CROATIANS. After all, some of the head figures were Jewish. So I'm not sure what you are getting at. I thought ustasa had similar views on race like german NSDAP after all they were allies? You doesnt seem to be a racist.....?
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May 24, 2010 13:27:34 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 24, 2010 13:27:34 GMT -5
We were not allies because we had the same ideals on race; we were allies for other reasons. You really need to read up more on the subject before you make your conclusions.
No, I am not a racist. I have spent most of my time in Australia growing up with all kinds of people and I still do mix with all kinds.
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May 24, 2010 17:27:08 GMT -5
Post by redbaron on May 24, 2010 17:27:08 GMT -5
Why of course I do, here I am with the handsome man himself ;D Damn girl. It looks like you have a nice badonka donk. Do you have another picture where you are bending over a little bit, trying to read the writing on that statue? ;D
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May 24, 2010 17:32:16 GMT -5
Post by Trazi Vise on May 24, 2010 17:32:16 GMT -5
lol sorry man, you'll have to follow me to the gym and watch me in person ha :-)
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May 24, 2010 17:37:49 GMT -5
Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 24, 2010 17:37:49 GMT -5
I admire the fact that he had some guts and determination to free Croatia and to become a democratic country again, however the regime and democracy came about the wrong time in European history. The ustasa ideolgy was needed (and was established long before Pavelic came onto the scene). Without that, we would have had no defence and resistance to the offenders that wanted to take so much from Croatia but give very little back. Thats like saying its good that hitler ruled Germany because he saved the german economy for a few years. one day im gonna paint a petokraka on that statue head mark my words hahaha
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