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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Jul 14, 2010 3:54:00 GMT -5
The only way for all Christians to move forward is if we distance ourselves from the past, however by doing so we should educate the younger generations about the past that has occured, teach them, and to ensure that nobody forgets what has happened in the past, also speaking about WW2 and 91-95, the breakup of Yugoslavia, the only way for us to move forward is to discontinue hatred amoung each other as the only real enemy to us is ourselves, we are our own worst enemy as we seem to have a habbit of degrading one ethnic race over the other for example Croatia recognising Kosovo as an independent state, yet again majority of these seperatists are muslims and islamic fundamentalists who seeks to create an islamic state in Europe. Bosnia on the other hand, us Serbs and Croats have a thing on collaborating together against Bosnian Muslims in BIH, but when the opportunity comes to backstab your Christian brothers whether it be Orthodox Serbs collaborating with Muslims against Catholic Croats or be it vice versa.
If we continue to be divided and continue to rip on one another as shown and demonstrated by Cikola, i guarentee you that within 50 years time both Serbia and Croatia will be overrun by Muslims as well as most of Europe, the last 50-60 years or so there has been massive migrations of Muslims from Turkiye and Middle east into Europe, Germany is full of Turks and Christians are slowly disapearing dying out each year while the Muslims are increasing in massive numbers, not only in Kosovo and BIH but through out all of Europe.
If we do not genuinely unite as Christians then we will be a minority in half a centuary to come. What really annoys me is that Cikola is constantly ripping out on Serbs in everysingle opportunity he gets but here he made a topic about how all Christians should unite against Islams but what he does is completely the opposite.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 14, 2010 4:53:05 GMT -5
Typical hypocrite srpski talibani.....you are like talibans that use religion againt others....f**king idiots....were not serbs who tried to occupy Croatia, Slovenia and Macedonia (read: christians)?, you delusion son of devil.
Kosova is for albanians, not islam or christian like most serbs has roots from those middle eastern religions.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 14, 2010 5:00:43 GMT -5
I think war will be between atheist countries vs fundamentalist muslim/orthodox contries such like serbia, iran, libia ect.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Jul 14, 2010 5:15:41 GMT -5
Typical hypocrite srpski talibani.....you are like talibans that use religion againt others....f**king idiots....were not serbs who tried to occupy Croatia, Slovenia and Macedonia (read: christians)?, you delusion son of devil. Kosova is for albanians, not islam or christian like most serbs has roots from those middle eastern religions. What a hypocritical Sheep-tar. Your preaching about occupations yet again you Albanians occupy Kosovo, Western FYROM, claiming parts of Montenegro and Greece as being Albanian land. Your people constantly emmigrated out of Albania into Yugoslavia and Greece because there is no economic prosperity and future in Albania, Albanians emmigrating out of Albania into neighbouring countries claimig for a better future yet again you guys refuse to integrate into the nation's society, disobeying and disrespecting the national laws of that country your people reside in and always calling upon for a Greater Albania to be established by trying to steal land and history. We are not Albanians and we do not go around claiming other lands that do not belong to us unlike the Albanians, Albanians themselves did not even exist in the Balkans untill the Ottoman Empire was established and when the Turks bought in Albanians from Middle East, Asia as slaves and occupators to be used to fight battles for the Turks to take over and rule Serbia, Bosnia and even parts of Croatia and other Balkan countries to be under the Ottoman Empire. And now you guys claim to be Illyrians inorder to justify these horrific acts to occupy other countries land, massacre civilians, non Albanians, commit act of violence, discrimination, fear, threats and ethnic cleansing of non Albanians in these areas such as Kosovo and Western FYROM. Serbs unlike Albanians lived in the land of Croatia and Bosnia for over a millenium unlike the Albanians that were bought into the Balkans by the Turks 500 years ago. So before you start calling us as being occupators and invaders, look at yourself in the mirror first and realise the wrong doings of your people.
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Post by mystery on Jul 14, 2010 11:59:39 GMT -5
Typical hypocrite srpski talibani.....you are like talibans that use religion againt others....f**king idiots....were not serbs who tried to occupy Croatia, Slovenia and Macedonia (read: christians)?, you delusion son of devil. Kosova is for albanians, not islam or christian like most serbs has roots from those middle eastern religions. What a hypocritical Sheep-tar. Your preaching about occupations yet again you Albanians occupy Kosovo, Western FYROM, claiming parts of Montenegro and Greece as being Albanian land. Your people constantly emmigrated out of Albania into Yugoslavia and Greece because there is no economic prosperity and future in Albania, Albanians emmigrating out of Albania into neighbouring countries claimig for a better future yet again you guys refuse to integrate into the nation's society, disobeying and disrespecting the national laws of that country your people reside in and always calling upon for a Greater Albania to be established by trying to steal land and history. We are not Albanians and we do not go around claiming other lands that do not belong to us unlike the Albanians, Alba nians themselves did not even exist in the Balkans untill the Ottoman Empire was established and when the Turks bought in Albanians from Middle East, Asia as slaves and occupators to be used to fight battles for the Turks to take over and rule Serbia, Bosnia and even parts of Croatia and other Balkan countries to be under the Ottoman Empire. And now you guys claim to be Illyrians inorder to justify these horrific acts to occupy other countries land, massacre civilians, non Albanians, commit act of violence, discrimination, fear, threats and ethnic cleansing of non Albanians in these areas such as Kosovo and Western FYROM. Serbs unlike Albanians lived in the land of Croatia and Bosnia for over a millenium unlike the Albanians that were bought into the Balkans by the Turks 500 years ago. So before you start calling us as being occupators and invaders, look at yourself in the mirror first and realise the wrong doings of your people. LOL, Serbs came from the highlands of Mongolia you--edit-- You came and invaded the balkans you moron in the 6-8th century. You moron. Your lands are in Iran/Mongolia --edit---. What about the million + serbs that emigrated from Serbia? Did they want to leave the s**t hole known as serbia or where they refugees? It's funny how you are making all this into a religious war all of a sudden.. You claim us to be Islamic terrorists when during the wars orthodox priests would "bless" the serbs killers who would go on to massacre tens of thousands of people. You don't belong here, you have no civilization you --edit--
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Jul 14, 2010 20:14:16 GMT -5
What a hypocritical Sheep-tar. Your preaching about occupations yet again you Albanians occupy Kosovo, Western FYROM, claiming parts of Montenegro and Greece as being Albanian land. Your people constantly emmigrated out of Albania into Yugoslavia and Greece because there is no economic prosperity and future in Albania, Albanians emmigrating out of Albania into neighbouring countries claimig for a better future yet again you guys refuse to integrate into the nation's society, disobeying and disrespecting the national laws of that country your people reside in and always calling upon for a Greater Albania to be established by trying to steal land and history. We are not Albanians and we do not go around claiming other lands that do not belong to us unlike the Albanians, Alba nians themselves did not even exist in the Balkans untill the Ottoman Empire was established and when the Turks bought in Albanians from Middle East, Asia as slaves and occupators to be used to fight battles for the Turks to take over and rule Serbia, Bosnia and even parts of Croatia and other Balkan countries to be under the Ottoman Empire. And now you guys claim to be Illyrians inorder to justify these horrific acts to occupy other countries land, massacre civilians, non Albanians, commit act of violence, discrimination, fear, threats and ethnic cleansing of non Albanians in these areas such as Kosovo and Western FYROM. Serbs unlike Albanians lived in the land of Croatia and Bosnia for over a millenium unlike the Albanians that were bought into the Balkans by the Turks 500 years ago. So before you start calling us as being occupators and invaders, look at yourself in the mirror first and realise the wrong doings of your people. LOL, Serbs came from the highlands of Mongolia you--edit-- You came and invaded the balkans you moron in the 6-8th century. You moron. Your lands are in Iran/Mongolia --edit---. What about the million + serbs that emigrated from Serbia? Did they want to leave the s**t hole known as serbia or where they refugees? It's funny how you are making all this into a religious war all of a sudden.. You claim us to be Islamic terrorists when during the wars orthodox priests would "bless" the serbs killers who would go on to massacre tens of thousands of people. You don't belong here, you have no civilization you --edit-- LOL if that is so, then Albanians are from Africa, the African jungle and they came to the Balkans as Monkey's that were bought in by the Turks in the 1400. That still doesn't change the fact that we were here before first before the Albanians came into the Balkans. ;D
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Post by plisbardhi on Jul 14, 2010 21:30:20 GMT -5
Mystery, don't waste your time with low-life degenerate slavo-avaro-turco-serb pig farmers. It doesn't matter what they say to make them feel better about themselves, scholars have already put the real record out for anyone to see.
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Post by jonleka on Jul 14, 2010 21:49:10 GMT -5
I never said I hate slavs i dont know where you got that.
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Post by spartacus on Jul 15, 2010 10:48:36 GMT -5
The next war will be between lovers of liberty and secular-progressives.
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Post by andromeda on Aug 21, 2010 21:32:47 GMT -5
I think the next World War in on the horizon. This time it will be between the worlds two most biggest religions. Christian vs IslamWhat do you think about this. ? If the Pope hypothetically speaking called upon all Christians to take up arms against Islam in an effort to protect our freedom and Christian way of life ... Would you stand side by side with other Christians be they Croat, Serb, Montenegrin, Slovenian, Polish, Italian in an all Christian army and join the war? Hopefully they would eliminate each other. I would stand with the rational.
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Post by andromeda on Aug 21, 2010 21:34:23 GMT -5
Personally I would stand side by side with Muslims against atheists. We believe in the same monotheistic Godn afterall. So if a muslim wanted to crash a plane into a building full of atheists you would totally support that?
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Post by ponosbosne on Sept 1, 2010 0:42:47 GMT -5
Europe vs. USA would only happen if one of them wanted to control the whole world. And it could happen, but Europe would destroy USA in less then a month if all of Europe soldiers went to America and started fucking up shit. America people are stupid as fuck so that is why USA would fall in less then a month!
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Post by ponosbosne on Sept 1, 2010 0:45:08 GMT -5
Personally I would stand side by side with Muslims against atheists. We believe in the same monotheistic Godn afterall. So if a muslim wanted to crash a plane into a building full of atheists you would totally support that? He just said that he would kill atheists with Muslims. So I'm pretty damn sure he would support if any atheist died, you dumbass! What a retarded question!!!! LOL!
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Sept 1, 2010 3:14:09 GMT -5
Personally I would stand side by side with Muslims against atheists. We believe in the same monotheistic Godn afterall. So if a muslim wanted to crash a plane into a building full of atheists you would totally support that? What the? Where the hell did you pull that from from what I said?
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Post by andromeda on Sept 1, 2010 15:05:24 GMT -5
So if a muslim wanted to crash a plane into a building full of atheists you would totally support that? What the? Where the hell did you pull that from from what I said? I'm messing with you though religion can motivate some people to do some pretty crazy things. But seriously the greatest gift Islam and Christianity can give to the world today is their participation in their own mutual demise. Think about how much more sane the world would be
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Sept 2, 2010 2:57:41 GMT -5
I'm messing with you though religion can motivate some people to do some pretty crazy things. It can also motivate people to do some pretty good things. Well the west is secularist. It's more socially acceptable to criticize religion then to promote or even discuss it in a lot of contexts. What more do you want? The west is basically where your ideals would appear to be at and yet it is no longer viewed as being far and away the best place for humanity. I think people are actually less happy in the west then the rest of the world. On sanity, the most insane thing is you suggesting I'm happy to see a plane fly into a building. You're not doing much in the way of understanding and tolerance there.
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Post by andromeda on Sept 2, 2010 14:44:10 GMT -5
I'm messing with you though religion can motivate some people to do some pretty crazy things. It can also motivate people to do some pretty good things. Well the west is secularist. It's more socially acceptable to criticize religion then to promote or even discuss it in a lot of contexts. What more do you want? The west is basically where your ideals would appear to be at and yet it is no longer viewed as being far and away the best place for humanity. I think people are actually less happy in the west then the rest of the world. On sanity, the most insane thing is you suggesting I'm happy to see a plane fly into a building. You're not doing much in the way of understanding and tolerance there. Yeah but people do good things despite religion anyways i.e. non religious/agnostic/ or other wise atheists participating in good will. If religion is a motivator for some people to help others then wonderful but its not necessary to be religious to be for good will. Its the potential bad will that I worry about. For thousands of years humans have tortured each other in the most unimaginable ways ( think of overt Catholicism and Orthodoxy differences between Croats and Serbs and what that has the potential to lead to) all explicitly in the name of their religion/god/or other wise divinity of the nation or whatever. Now I know the typical comeback is Communists or even the Nazis but if we really think about it , clearly Communism/Nazism =/= atheism/agnosticism. Hopefully we wont have to go down this road of argument The West is generally more secular than the non Western countries but that's only relatively speaking. In the U.S. for example , religion is still very strong and persuasive up to the point of dictating politics to some degree. The United States ranked right next to Turkey for having the most believers and that number is high. Christian fanaticism is probably less pronounced in the E.U. but I wouldn't call it completely secularist either. Astrology , new age spirituality/paganism , and some of these non-mainstream faith based beliefs are still strong and we don't even need to get into the religiosity of all the Islamic communities that have sprouted all over Europe. As far as happiness goes. I don't think there is any objective measure of happiness and it all depends on your conditioning as well. I know people that love their fast paced life , nice car , well paying job , sending their kids to the best colleges they can , etc. I also know people that actually would disdain that lifestyle and really could care less how nice their car or clothes are so long as they have enough to enjoy the time with the people they love. Both aren't mutually exclusive, btw. Me , for instance. I like my life in the U.S. and there are few other places I'd rather live, however , when I take my vacations there is no place I'd rather be than in Croatia with the people love doing what we do over there It's so relaxing.
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Post by malsor4life on Sept 9, 2010 22:33:19 GMT -5
Probably wont happen in our lifetime, but the next big war will be against the communist new world order that we've seen emerging peice by peice over the past few decades. I can easily see a major civil war happening in America (considered the heart of freedom in the world) and perhaps spreading world wide. You know who's side im on !
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Sept 10, 2010 4:32:29 GMT -5
Probably wont happen in our lifetime, but the next big war will be against the communist new world order that we've seen emerging peice by peice over the past few decades. I can easily see a major civil war happening in America (considered the heart of freedom in the world) and perhaps spreading world wide. You know who's side im on ! Wont happen because majority of the world is brainwashed and more then 90% of the American population dismisses the NWO and the illuminati as only a conspiracy theory and fiction. We are a very naive people destined to repeat the same mistake over and over again as proven through out our entire existance in human kind. By the time people realise this, it will be too late to even go for another world war, if it does ever come to this, it would be with WMD's in which everyone and every nation in the world will loose and as a result of this, 2/3rd of the world population will be wiped out.
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Post by jashari on Nov 10, 2010 17:35:50 GMT -5
If the Pope hypothetically speaking called upon all Christians to take up arms against Islam in an effort to protect our freedom and Christian way of life ... Would you stand side by side with other Christians be they Croat, Serb, Montenegrin, Slovenian, Polish, Italian in an all Christian army and join the war? Catholics are a minority in Europe so the Pope has no influence at all in most of Europe. Most European nations are secular today and have more or less abandoned Christianity. Christianity in general seems to be a dying religion in Europe. Islam on the other hand is the fastest growing religion in Europe. So if anyone proclaims a war against Islam it will be the atheists who are now celebrating that they have managed to defeat Christianity in Europe. I very much doubt that the Pope considers secularist "freedom" in countries such as France to be a Christian way of life. Even in Croatia the secular political elite is pushing for a further secularization by removing crosses from public institutions and so on. My guess is that the secularists will simply try to change Islam in Europe the way they destroyed Christianity. War in Europe is not an alternative for them. Nobody can f**k with us. Nobody. Another Islam conversion party in Rome for 500 glamorous models ;D www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1307344/Colonel-Gaddafis-Islam-conversion-party-Clio-Evans-meeting-Libyan-leader.html
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