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Post by Username on May 27, 2010 14:37:19 GMT -5
king, you aren't swarthy. If you hadn't mentioned that you were part Roma, I would have assumed you were just Mediterranean, most likely from Italy.. clearly your European roots dominate the Roma ones.
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Post by Nikola on May 28, 2010 1:33:57 GMT -5
Theres some redhed too ;D Lol, either that lady is very small or that guy is huge. His member seems to be thicker than her arms.
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Post by king on May 28, 2010 2:13:11 GMT -5
king, you aren't swarthy. If you hadn't mentioned that you were part Roma, I would have assumed you were just Mediterranean, most likely from Italy.. clearly your European roots dominate the Roma ones. i think im swarthy... i have light brown skin.... depends on what you call swarthy... on some pictures i turn out pale but in reality i have a light brown skin or maybe deep olive.... when im unshaved i look even swarthier... i have the feeling (see pics)
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Post by terroreign on May 29, 2010 2:29:51 GMT -5
Dude you look like a mix of Al capone and Lucky luciano, with a gypsy haircut
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Post by MiG on May 29, 2010 11:33:57 GMT -5
You look like this one Indian dude I know from my work.
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Post by malsor4life on May 31, 2010 4:15:48 GMT -5
vs. Swarthy These Cro girls arent 'swarthy' at all. The one in the middle has pretty eyes, and doin an alb eagle sign to boot. ;D
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jun 1, 2010 4:55:04 GMT -5
Tyson it sounds as though you are spewing information straight from the ustasha handbook. Vlachs were not brought in. They are mainly the Romanized locals... Thracians, Illyrians, Dacians etc.
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Post by tyson on Jun 3, 2010 7:37:05 GMT -5
^ whatever dickface. the theory of vlachs origins that i spoke on has been around for ages, and it isnt made up by croats or ustase, you nitwit.
i'm pretty sure most people would agree that vlachs are not the same as greeks, illyrians, thracians and dacians. that is just the stance that serbs take, because so many of them have vlach blood.
yes, vlachs do have indigenous balkan blood in them, or mixture of all of them, but they also are mixed with ancestry of roman slaves from the byzantine empire lands in the middle east and north africa.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jun 3, 2010 8:14:25 GMT -5
Your response only shows how weak your belief in it is. Illyria fell to the ROMANS in 167 BC. Slavic toponyms didn't start appearing untill 6-7th century. Romanisation was at the very least a precursor to slavicisation. You've got the Balkans under Roman control for at least 6 centuries. Sure the Romans would have been responsible for bringing some population growth but it's basically the natives that were Romanised. The thing that Croat bananas should have pie in their face about when using Vlachs as an insuilt towards Serbs is that they're actually calling us native Balkanites - Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians and whatever tribes there were to become Romanised prior to the arrival of slavs.
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Post by donnie on Jun 3, 2010 9:06:07 GMT -5
Vlachs are indeed indigenous. The pre-Latin substratum found in the Vlach/Romanian language goes to show they were locals who adopted Latin speech during antiquity, much like the Gauls in modern France or Celt-Iberians in Spain.
The notion that they are to a large extent descendants of North African legionaries is an outdated theory which played on the fact that a segment of Vlachs, in particular those who lived in the Dalmatian hinterland, were called Morlachs or Mavrovlachs, i.e. 'Black Vlachs' ,, which some people interpreted as a reference to these Vlachs' pigmentation, them being 'dark moors' ... when infact there was probably little such physical difference between them and other inhabitants of Dalmatia ,,, the epithet was rather a reference to the dark cloaks these shepherds wore.
So Arsenije is correct in stating that the Vlachs are to a great extent Romanized locals ,,, whether the outdated theory of the Vlachs being North African in origins was coined by the Ustasha however I dont know, though it wouldnt surprise me.
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Post by albascorp on Jun 19, 2012 9:16:51 GMT -5
lol that 2headed eagle
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Post by Srpski Svet on Jun 19, 2012 16:45:16 GMT -5
^ there do exist some swarthy croats, though they're small in number. i personally know some croats from the dalmatian hinterland that are naturally very dark skinned, with thick bushy black hair. i think these genes come from the morlachs (vlachs from dalmatia) who migrated to this region from the deep south of the balkans. vlachs i believe are a mixed race peoples made up of indigenous balkan inhabitants, greeks, arabs and moors, whose ancestors were once slaves from north africa and the middle east in the byzantine empire, and were brought by ships to the port of epirus, who eventually were freed, and then married local greek women, and then migrated northwards and married other indigenous peoples like albanians and others. so thats why alot of vlachs are swarthy, and because of that vlach component among especially dalmatian hinterland croats, some are swarthy, while most are just with olive complexion and dark hair. This is racist splurge the Croats and Germans have been polluting the balkans with for centuries to put down the Serbs. To those not familiar, the "croats from the dalmatian hinterland" are Serbs, the "dalmatian hinterland" being where Srpska Krajina is located and has since at least the 18th century been majorly ethnic Serbian. This morlach fairy tale of the Croats has been a historical way of them dismissing the Serb presence in Croatia as indigenous. And due to these racist ideas Croats, Slovenians, and Bosniaks have derogatorily call Serbs "Vlachs". But it is true though, majority of Croatia Serbs/Krajisnici are swarthy but no more so than Serbs in Hercegovina, Montenegro or Sumadija
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Jun 19, 2012 19:58:03 GMT -5
^ E pa ti si vlasko dijete zato se toliko palis na Hrvate lol. Sad je sve jasno, ne?
The hinterland isn't merely Serb towns and villages. You forget about places like Imotski, Slunj , Drnis , Sinj , Gospic , Dugopolje, Metkovic , Vrlika , Kijevo, Otocac , Udbina , etc. The whole hinterland was sparsely populated which means there was a low density of people , Serb or Croat. Only 1/3 of the pre 91 Serb population lived in the Dalmatian Hinterland. Most of the others lived in larger cities and towns with a Croatian majority. The whole Dalmatian Hinterland , north and south , still yielded a Croatian majority before 91. I don't need to bust out numbers but I will if you'd like. Srpska Mreza is not a good source of information lol.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Jun 19, 2012 20:01:07 GMT -5
The Serbs in Croatia were notoriously dark in proportion to their whole population. Virtually indistinguishable from the southern Balkans. Plenty of historical documents record the influx of Orthodox Vlachs into both Bosnia and Croatia. Of course a good portion of them were Serbs from Serbia too but most are not native to the so-called Krajina and Republika Srpska , at least before the Ottoman/Austrian occupations.
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Post by bowandarrow on Jun 19, 2012 23:06:17 GMT -5
she was called brown because she is a roma. if your sister has the same complexion as that girl in the pic, then obviously your sister is not swarthy, just like you arent. do you understand? you are a roma, but you are not swarthy. your skin is pale. must be that you have a considerable amount of ancestry of non-roma blood, possibly serbian or hungarian ancestry perhaps. we live in austria and austrians didnt knew we are roma, a croat girl went with me to school and she was definitely swarthy like me, i was called s**tty turk and "brown like s**t" and "black c**kroach" "half-n**g**r" etc... swarthy people have it hard Why do you care about what they think? Their women sleep with the Blacks and they're owned by Jews.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 24, 2012 23:39:21 GMT -5
"The Serbs in Croatia were notoriously dark in proportion to their whole population. Virtually indistinguishable from the southern Balkans. Plenty of historical documents record the influx of Orthodox Vlachs into both Bosnia and Croatia. Of course a good portion of them were Serbs from Serbia too but most are not native to the so-called Krajina and Republika Srpska , at least before the Ottoman/Austrian occupations."
Priso, so these Serbs and Vlachs, later arrivals, pushed the original Croats from their original bosnian homelands to Istra where they speak Vlach?
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Post by Srpski Svet on Jun 24, 2012 23:43:08 GMT -5
^LOL ustasa logic is immense
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 8, 2012 19:33:49 GMT -5
^ This is what l find moronic, they call serbs vlachs while these twisted ones (over 40% of their population) have Austrian/German/Hungarian and VLACH flowing in their veins. PS No ic or vic suffixes means they arn't slavs
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Post by amateurs on Sept 8, 2012 21:37:46 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me what's so wrong with those Vlachs that inhabited your territory before you, superior men, took the land away from them?
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Post by ulf on Sept 8, 2012 23:53:52 GMT -5
Italian travelers noted this. The so called Vlachs in the northern Croatia called themselves Serbs, but Croats called them Vlachs, like they called Croats by name Sokci. Also they are still blonder than Croats dwelling there. They are not real Vlachs
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