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Post by vinjak on Jul 8, 2010 16:13:27 GMT -5
This could very well be the end game. 8 July 2010 | 16:54 | Source: FoNet, NIN BELGRADE -- The National Defense University (NDU) in Washington political science professor Steven Meyer says Serbia should demand a partition of Kosovo. The province's ethnic Albanians in February 2008 unilaterally declared independence, but Belgrade rejected this, and the territory has not been able to join the UN. North of the Ibar River is predominantly inhabited by Serbs, who also rejected the proclamation. “Belgrade should first recognize the independence of Kosovo south of the Ibar River,” Meyer told Belgrade weekly NIN. According to him, Belgrade’s next move should then be to immediately declare the area north of the Ibar River a part of the Serbian territory, and send it troops and police - "not to fight a war, but to help guarantee peace and protect Serbs in the area". Meyer pointed out that the Serbian government should also insist on the adoption of a "new UN resolution and a plan that would guarantee the lives and property of those Serbs south of the Ibar River". The current UN Security Council resolution, 1244, passed at the end of the 1999 war, guarantees Serbia's sovereignty over the territory, while establishing an international administration there. According to Meyer, Serbia’s move to include the International Court of Justice (ICJ) into the Kosovo status issue was a "naive decision". “Unless, of course, the government wanted to lose, and in that way secure an excuse for itself for the secession of Kosovo,” the American professor was quoted as saying. The top UN court has been asked to assess the legality under international law of the unilateral proclamation, and is expected to give its advisory opinion this year. www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2010&mm=07&dd=08&nav_id=68321
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 9, 2010 2:02:57 GMT -5
interesting. this yank seems more pragmatic than the rest. However, if a trend (pro-serb) starts, it is bound to go on, so i doubt serbia will take position and "sell" that early. The yank is wrong, Serbia with ICJ wants to eat more time, and the time is on her side. IMO, Serbia wants this situation to go on forever, until the Serb military regains Kosovo for good. Thats apparent. Practically, the yank says that USA cannot hold the northern part, its a partial declaration of defeat. "SEND THE SERB ARMY" What a striking terminology !!! the words "serb" and "army" in the same sentence, were kind of forbidden for 20 years!!! what a come back.... (not that USA does not know what happens in Cacak/Uzice, its just what they want their public to know) on the other hand, maybe base JUG was built for this reason? Maybe it was all set up?
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Post by shqiptars on Jul 9, 2010 3:08:47 GMT -5
Not going to happen. Tadic is too much of a coward.
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Post by Gigolo on Jul 9, 2010 3:34:27 GMT -5
Cradle the balls in the south, work the shaft in the north.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Jul 9, 2010 22:31:51 GMT -5
As soon as Kosovo declared it's independence from Serbia. The Serbian Army and Police should have been deployed in the North and in Strpce that same day. The level of recognition of Kosovo would only be a fraction of 67 countries recognising Kosovo. That would have shown that Serbia is very serious in protecting it's sovereignty over Kosovo and all of Serbia's territory. Not to mention that today NATO would not dare bomb Serbia or else the world would then see that the Kosovo declaration of independence has sparked a new round of war and destability in the region. Also with todays Russia's backing of Serbia, NATO would not dare start another war but this time cooperate closely with the Serbian Army and Police under the condition that the Army and Police not be deployed in the Albanian part of Kosovo. Recognising South Kosovo is practically still signing away Kosovo but only signing away 90% of Kosovo while keeping only a fraction of Kosovo which is the Northern part of Kosovo.
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Post by mystery on Jul 10, 2010 9:25:24 GMT -5
As soon as Kosovo declared it's independence from Serbia. The Serbian Army and Police should have been deployed in the North and in Strpce that same day. The level of recognition of Kosovo would only be a fraction of 67 countries recognising Kosovo. That would have shown that Serbia is very serious in protecting it's sovereignty over Kosovo and all of Serbia's territory. Not to mention that today NATO would not dare bomb Serbia or else the world would then see that the Kosovo declaration of independence has sparked a new round of war and destability in the region. Also with todays Russia's backing of Serbia, NATO would not dare start another war but this time cooperate closely with the Serbian Army and Police under the condition that the Army and Police not be deployed in the Albanian part of Kosovo. Recognising South Kosovo is practically still signing away Kosovo but only signing away 90% of Kosovo while keeping only a fraction of Kosovo which is the Northern part of Kosovo. Kosova is lost for the serbs.. Move on. If the serbs invaded Kosova they would get bombed and would risk any EU, Nato membership. Not to mention serious economic sanctions. I doubt Russia will do anything, they are all talk. You think they would want to get in a war just to help the serbs? They don't care about you at all, if they did they would of did something back during the yugo war days or did something about the independence of kosova.
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Post by bato2 on Jul 10, 2010 9:28:57 GMT -5
Actually is 69 countries not 67 and still on rise Kosovo can wait.... The problem is with Serbia who is on the hurry to catch the other Balkan countries. Serbia is rushing on the queue at EU-s doorstep and is a naive illusion to believe will get EU candidacy without accepting the Kosovo reality
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Post by Pavel Chernev on Jul 10, 2010 10:34:21 GMT -5
Greetings friends
Last time it took the Serbians 3 weeks to clean out 800 000 Islamists. With all the pent up frustration it will take 3 days next time should the Serbians decide to reclaim their land.
In this post-9/11 world there will be much sympathy for the Serbians as they battle the forces of terror and Islam. There will be much assistance from the forces of Western Europe, freedom and democracy in helping eliminate the scourge of Islamo-fascism in Kosovo - Bosnia and then Europe as a whole. It will be our duty as human beings - regardless of race, colour, creed or income.
Just some food for thought, Pavel.
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Post by bato2 on Jul 10, 2010 12:14:50 GMT -5
We see Pavel masturbation is your full time job but take some holiday sometime...Hard work has damaged most of your brain cells
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Post by shqiptars on Jul 10, 2010 14:46:30 GMT -5
Kosova is lost for the serbs.. Move on. If the serbs invaded Kosova they would get bombed and would risk any EU, Nato membership. Not to mention serious economic sanctions. I doubt Russia will do anything, they are all talk. You think they would want to get in a war just to help the serbs? They don't care about you at all, if they did they would of did something back during the yugo war days or did something about the independence of kosova. Not if they reclaim Kosovo by proxy. And it's Kosovo, Shqiptar, not Kosova. Kosova doesn't mean anything in any language.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Jul 11, 2010 0:17:24 GMT -5
As soon as Kosovo declared it's independence from Serbia. The Serbian Army and Police should have been deployed in the North and in Strpce that same day. The level of recognition of Kosovo would only be a fraction of 67 countries recognising Kosovo. That would have shown that Serbia is very serious in protecting it's sovereignty over Kosovo and all of Serbia's territory. Not to mention that today NATO would not dare bomb Serbia or else the world would then see that the Kosovo declaration of independence has sparked a new round of war and destability in the region. Also with todays Russia's backing of Serbia, NATO would not dare start another war but this time cooperate closely with the Serbian Army and Police under the condition that the Army and Police not be deployed in the Albanian part of Kosovo. Recognising South Kosovo is practically still signing away Kosovo but only signing away 90% of Kosovo while keeping only a fraction of Kosovo which is the Northern part of Kosovo. Kosova is lost for the serbs.. Move on. If the serbs invaded Kosova they would get bombed and would risk any EU, Nato membership. Not to mention serious economic sanctions. I doubt Russia will do anything, they are all talk. You think they would want to get in a war just to help the serbs? They don't care about you at all, if they did they would of did something back during the yugo war days or did something about the independence of kosova. How can Serbia invade it's own territory when Kosovo is part of Serbia? EU and NATO membership we do not want. Majority of Serbian citizens are against joining the EU and NATO. Why would Serbia join an organisation like NATO that bombed it? The situation today is much different than they were back in the 90's. The USA today is not the USA it was 10 years ago, the present Russia is much more powerful as it has already rebuilt and modernised it's military and also it's economy is alot more stronger now and continuously improving. Russia today has alot of influence and is allowed to do what it wants when it wants to. Majority of gas and energy supplier comes from Russia, Russia is the country that supplies natural gas and other energy sources to Europe and EU states, Russia can do anything what ever they want if it pleases them. If Russia wants to, they can very well raise prices up to unrealistic levels or cut natural gas and other energy from reaching EU when ever it wants. The EU is very dependent on Russia in terms of Energy and Natural gas. Not to mention the EU is practically bankrupt with more then half of it's member states under reccession such as Germany. The USA is pushing for further withdrawel of it's troops as they are far too stretched globally to an extent that they cannot even protect their borders from the Southern USA, on the Arizona region bordered with Mexico, let alone to fight another war for Albanians. According to this article, the USA is pretty much desperate as they are now considering allowing the Serbian Army and Police to be redeployed in Kosovo but in the North where majority Serbs live while trying to convince Serbia to recognise the South of Kosovo?? Why is that?? A year ago this wasn't even allowed to even be considered but as the ICJ verdict comes closer to each day, they are becomming even more desperate. Really soon we will have countries that have recognised Kosovo to withdraw their recognition after the ICJ gives it's verdict, Kosovo's recognition lobbied by the USA has already reached it's peak, while more then 2/3rds of the world recognise Serbia's sovereignty over Kosovo. Why is it that Serbia was allowed to build a large military base in the administrative line to Kosovo in Bujanovac?? But 10 years ago, according to the Kumanovo agreement, we weren't allowed 50k from the administrative line to Kosovo but few months ago, Serbian generals were in Pristina to discuss further cooperations with KFOR in terms of security in Kosovo?? Reality has it sooner or later the Serbian Army and Police will be deployed in Kosovo, if not through out Kosovo, it will uniliterially be deployed in North of Kosovo and in Strpce. As time goes on, more and more will be revealed, why is it that the Albanians are becomming so nervious now that they decided to attack more Serbs, stone their houses, throw grenades and even bomb the hospital were a doctor was killed in North Kosovo. Albanian are becomming more and more nervious and worried about the outcomes of the ICJ.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 11, 2010 8:54:25 GMT -5
"Actually is 69 countries not 67 and still on rise Kosovo can wait.... The problem is with Serbia who is on the hurry to catch the other Balkan countries. Serbia is rushing on the queue at EU-s doorstep and is a naive illusion to believe will get EU candidacy without accepting the Kosovo reality"
Wake up Bato, the whole kosovo experience has been a complete failure for the Albanians....life for the average Albanian has gotten much worse, this is the best control you'll ever get, its only going to get worse for your people.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Jul 11, 2010 18:41:51 GMT -5
Actually is 69 countries not 67 and still on rise Kosovo can wait.... The problem is with Serbia who is on the hurry to catch the other Balkan countries. Serbia is rushing on the queue at EU-s doorstep and is a naive illusion to believe will get EU candidacy without accepting the Kosovo reality F*** the EU and NATO. Why join a union that wants to break up Serbia in the first place. The best thing for Serbia and EU is if Serbia becomes really close to the EU but to an extent it does not join the union, the same or a similiar model to that of Switzerland. Anything else means giving up alot of your sovereignty away to Brussel. In other words majority of Serbian citizens do not want to join the EU.
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Post by shqiptars on Jul 11, 2010 21:52:33 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 12, 2010 3:28:31 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 12, 2010 3:45:32 GMT -5
their trick was to overfund the least developed country of the balkans - Greece, in order later to collectively underrate the whole area. They are so satanic, so clever.
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Post by shqiptars on Jul 12, 2010 6:27:38 GMT -5
Hardly clever since euros are virtually useless now. This is just typical bureaucracy and what happens when you allow middle-class university kids (who major in economics, psychology, liberal-arts or some other pointless nonsense) to have power over any economy. The fact is that people who graduate from schools are the least qualified since all they know is theoretical crap based on false assumptions like you can increase supply by squishing demand and that you can increase supply by overriding demand.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 12, 2010 7:09:45 GMT -5
^^ i will try to explain their technique. Lets say for example you want to underrate/slander/accuse/devaluate/attack/buy/invade/etc.. country X. (and its likes) You take a country Y, which is guarantee to fuck up, and which is by all substantial data, below Xs, create a whole mythology around it, make it the king of all countries of class X, advertise it, feed it with free money and then let it fail. So, you have almost proven that along Y, all of its supposedly inferiors (the X's) suck as well. You have succeeded in your mission to buy cheaply a massive piece of europe (Ys + Xs) and do whatever you like with it.
i find it clever, really.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 12, 2010 7:32:10 GMT -5
^ Pyrro, you know brate that Goldman Sacs have funked many countries up and run away with the cash.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 12, 2010 7:40:33 GMT -5
Goldman SUCKS!!
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