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Post by bato2 on Sept 14, 2010 14:08:57 GMT -5
Was sind eigentlich Griechen?Die Griechen stammen nicht von Griechen ab. Das ist eine historische Wahrheit, die den Griechen insgeheim keine Ruhe lässt, weshalb sie die slawische Minderheit im Norden des Landes immer noch tüchtig triezen und der kleinen Balkanrepublik Mazedonien ihren Namen nicht gönnen. Machen wir es kurz: Am Ende der Antike, um das Jahr 600, brachen die Slawen über das ausgeblutete Hellas herein und besiedelten es. Dann, nach der Eroberung Konstantinopels um 1204, kamen fränkische Kreuzfahrer, ihnen folgten Bulgaren, Serben, Katalanen und schließlich die Osmanen, die ab 1450 auch die Macht übernahmen. Zwischendurch hatten sich noch albanische Stämme in den dünn besiedelten ländlichen Regionen Thessaliens, Böotiens und auf der Peloponnes niedergelassen. Und selbst die entscheidende Schlacht des griechischen Unabhängigkeitskriegs, in der die englische und die französische Flotte 1827 die Marine des Sultans zusammenschossen, fand an einem Ort statt, Navarino, der nach einem fremden Reitervolk, den Awaren, benannt ist. Von dort ging es dann über die Befreiung Thessalonikis - damals mehrheitlich von Türken und sephardischen Juden bewohnt - weiter bis zur kleinasiatischen Katastrophe von 1922 und dem nachfolgenden Bevölkerungsaustausch mit der Türkei, bei dem das kleine Land eineinhalb Millionen Auslandsgriechen aufnehmen und integrieren musste. Jeder vierte heutige Grieche stammt von diesen Zuzüglern ab, ebenso viele haben slawische oder albanische Wurzeln, aber natürlich halten alle zusammen wie Pech und Schwefel, wenn es gegen äußere Feinde geht. Und da die Türken - Rache für Konstantinopel! - gerade nicht zur Hand sind, geben die Deutschen eine ideale Zielscheibe ab. Denn sie haben während des Zweiten Weltkriegs im Mutterland der europäischen Kultur auf eine Weise gehaust, dass man heute noch schamrot werden muss. (Andreas Kilb) Zum Thema www.faz.net/s/RubCD175863466D41BB9A6A93D460B81174/Doc~EDF532A8EB5D442D4B1CEEE504733C205~ATpl~Ecommon~SMed.html(In English) What are the Greeks?The Greeks did not descend from the Greeks. This is a historic truth that the Greeks secretly can not rest, so they Slavic minority in the north of the country pester still capable, and treat the small Balkan republic of Macedonia, not its name. Let's make it short: At the end of antiquity, to the year 600 broke, the Slavs swept over the bloodless Hellas and populated it. Then, after the conquest of Constantinople around 1204, came Frankish Crusaders, they were followed by Bulgarians, Serbs, Catalans, and finally the Ottomans, who took over from 1450 and the power. In between were still Albanian tribes in the sparsely populated rural regions of Thessaly, Boeotia and settled in the Peloponnese. And even the decisive battle of the Greek War of Independence, zusammenschossen in which the British and French naval fleet in 1827 the Sultan was held in one place, Navarino, which is named after a foreign horse people, the Avars. From there we went on the liberation of Thessaloniki - then mostly inhabited by Turks, and Sephardic Jews - continue to the Asia Minor catastrophe of 1922 and the subsequent population exchange with Turkey, where the small nation had to take a half million Greeks abroad and integrate. One in four Greeks today is descended from these newcomers, as many have Slavic or Albanian roots, but of course all stick together as thick as thieves when it comes to external enemies. And since the Turks - Revenge of Constantinople!- Not exactly be on hand to give the Germans made a prime target. Because they have during the Second World War raged in the mother of European culture in a way that it still needs to be ashamed today.(Andreas Kilb)
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Post by emily33 on Sept 14, 2010 16:30:16 GMT -5
I guess he can't make up his mind whether Northern Greece is Slav or Turk and Sephardic jew.
bato, you first came to this forum as an asshole...then a nice guy and now again you are an asshole.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 16:38:49 GMT -5
Them frankfruiters can suck on our left testes.....
Too bad Kastor is in hiatus ..with his studies... he would have said more eloquently.
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Post by Patrinos on Sept 14, 2010 16:41:37 GMT -5
Ok then...assume that we say to the world that we are not real Greeks but Slavs who came in the 6th century and swept the previous population...who will believe us?
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 16:42:00 GMT -5
This is the fag that wrote this.... Thank you for your German money...another payment was made yesterday..we will take it....moron.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 16:45:48 GMT -5
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Post by Patrinos on Sept 14, 2010 16:47:30 GMT -5
He must have his wife stuffed during his vacations in Greece last summer... Greeks are very hospitable...very much...
sorry...barbarian Andreas(pitty beautiful Greek names be beared by barbarians....)...
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 16:51:50 GMT -5
Their ass hurts so much that they have to return some of the stolen money of WW2 that they sit in their offices and make up stories ....anything doesn't really matter. and..those moron douche bags ... garbage around us... love it, not really realizing that anything negative said about Greece and it's people leeches out to them too since they have been suckling on mama Greece's teet for eternity... Okay....I said enough... but this Andreas Kilb and come and give me a litmus test...right here Andy...
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Post by todhrimencuri on Sept 14, 2010 16:54:58 GMT -5
barbarian... says the person from a country whose universities dont reach half the standards of the "barbarian"'s land, which has produced more scientists in 50 years than Greece will be able to plop out in 500 and which became the third top economy in the world after complete and total ruin. Nevermind the fact that it has a stable and working society and economy and an open-minded and free one to boot. Why isnt Greece on any of these lists? Arent you guys the sires of civilization? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Most_Livable_Cities#cite_note-11
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 17:00:03 GMT -5
How long has Germany been a 'stable place"? You should go there.
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Post by emily33 on Sept 14, 2010 17:00:35 GMT -5
^ right back at you!
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Post by todhrimencuri on Sept 14, 2010 17:02:48 GMT -5
Im talking about over the last 50 years and in comparison to the general stability of Europe... Up until recently no state/city in Europe was stable.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 17:08:51 GMT -5
Germany has stolen trillions in gold and art from every country in conquered... not to mention all the money that was put in Swiss bank accounts by 'dead' Jews... They sold us billions in arms including submarines and planes... they have the audacity to complain...
Stable my ass.... your dad knew better when he picked the USA.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Sept 14, 2010 17:16:12 GMT -5
Stable for its own citizens, it doesnt have to be so for immigrants. My dad picked US because we can get accepted here easier: we blend in as white people. I personally find it appalling that I dont get discriminated against because of the color of my skin, its a nasty way but thats what most immigrants want: to be accepted even at the cost of some one else. Germany and Europe is different.
Germany sells weapons because they are good at it. Their Leopards are top notch quality as well as other military technology that they produce. And Im not talking about morals, humans are the same everywhere... if Greece was in such a position (and your touted ancient Greeks were just as racist, by modern standards, and imperialistic and manipulative as any advanced people today are so dont bother harking back). You guys are the lesser society and they profit from that, as much as any dominant group will.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2010 17:29:02 GMT -5
now now ...dont compare ancients of the balkans with todays greeks
its not fair
Strawberry Parfait anyone ...?? ;D
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2010 17:39:26 GMT -5
my internet pick of the hour ......I will call it fields of Strawberries When Greece became a nation for the first time in 1829, its future was set not by its own people but by the politically motivated Great Powers, foreigners who artificially chose the character of this nation to suit their own political agendas. Modern Greece was created to be a continuation of the so-called "Ancient Greece" of two thousand four hundred years ago. Two thousand four hundred years is a big historic gap for a new nation to fill especially one that has forgotten its past. Yes there is a 2,400 year old historic gap between today´s Greece and the phantom almost mythical "Greece" of yesteryears. Greece´s course was set and its artificial history written by foreigners before its own conscience was developed. The people living in modern Greece were literally told who they are. They were told to forget their present reality, language, culture, customs, and embrace a new politically and artificially created reality.
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 17:45:52 GMT -5
Yeah sure... and we are the protectors of out forefathers history... Don't blame us for your lackluster performance since 1260 ad... maybe in the next life you'll do better.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2010 17:59:15 GMT -5
oh you and your 1260 A.D thingy ..... We have been proven to have a continuous ethnic history....while the Greeks and Serbs are just the descendants of religious communities compounded from people of different ethnic background...... from whom none of ethnic Greek and Serb,,,,, for the simple reason that they didn't exist as a distinct ethnos. you like
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 14, 2010 18:02:35 GMT -5
You got nothing except asinine comments.... No one here,or there, has been able to prove anything before the date I mentioned....Someone said nothing was documented..... yeah sure...
Articles like this would go by unnoticed...if it was about anyone else..like who cares... it's one mans or fags opinion... up against anothers..
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Post by ulf on Sept 14, 2010 18:43:12 GMT -5
Spoken by citizen of a country who still have 3/5 territories originally non-German ;D Maybe he should write what German country did
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