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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 1, 2010 21:26:54 GMT -5
^ Good and don't bother me over in both the Serbian and Vardarian forums, we don't need your perverted ideas.
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Post by hellboy87 on Oct 1, 2010 23:38:07 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by rusebg on Oct 2, 2010 3:28:35 GMT -5
Hey, Pazar, it wasn't me who proposed stuff like showing my attribute to other people. Or for some reason you have a white willy and like every black gypsy you want to show off with how white it is?
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Post by ioan on Oct 2, 2010 8:33:33 GMT -5
^ Good and don't bother me over in both the Serbian and Vardarian forums, we don't need your perverted ideas. you are no one to tell who can visit what forums. make yourself indoeuropean gypsy forum and stay there!
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Post by odel on Oct 2, 2010 10:20:51 GMT -5
The statistics of gypsies in Norway is probably wrong it doesn't seem to take in the number of taters that are a gypsy people. no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatere It's in Norwegian but this page says that the numbers of people identifying as taters in Norway are around 5000-10 000. However, if people with tater relatives like for example a tater grandmother were to be counted in with the statistics there would have been 10 times more. There are about 3-4 different roma people first are the taters and the romanisel-sinti group they arrived earlier than the later roma people called (sigøyner) from the word Cigan these were from eastern Europe. And then there's the newly arrived one's, these have been making the headlines in Norwegian media for some time now. Most of these are from Romania, Yugoslavia and other parts of the Balkans but mostly the former two I mentioned. As I mentioned earlier, there can be gypsies in an area, but there are a lot of different groups of them, the thing that usually separates them is when they came to a specific area and such. In Kosova for example we have Ashkali, Roma and even romani people that call identify as Egyptians. In Albania I think there are Egyptians, Devgjs and some others.
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Post by Anittas on Oct 2, 2010 21:50:28 GMT -5
Spain is the country that best succeeded in integrating the Roma. Turkey can also be credited for doing a decent job. What about Bulgaria? Well, with people like Ruse and Edlund, you can't do both, except further the hatred.
Sad, so sad.
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Post by ioan on Oct 3, 2010 1:46:46 GMT -5
Spain is the country that best succeeded in integrating the Roma. Turkey can also be credited for doing a decent job. What about Bulgaria? Well, with people like Ruse and Edlund, you can't do both, except further the hatred. Sad, so sad. are u saying romanias doing better job than bg? i dont think so.
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Post by rusebg on Oct 3, 2010 5:10:24 GMT -5
I am ready to take my responsibility for not doing enough to integrate your precious gypsies in our society. But may be it is not my fault completely, I might have missed proper guidance. And this is where you enter the scene. Known as a prominent gypsy lover, would you be so nice to share a few details of your fruitful integration of gypsies during your short, but I am sure, very successful stay in Romania. Not being at your high level, it would be better if you start with the small picture, like how you integrated your neighbours. Integration throughout Romania should be left for later, when I gather some experience.
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Post by Anittas on Oct 4, 2010 8:14:07 GMT -5
President Basescu said that out of 1.5 million Roma in Romania, 1 million is integrated. I'm assuming that Bulgaria managed to assimilate a big portion of its Roma population as well, which means that our countries have the knowledge on how to do it. You don't need me to tell you anything.
Btw, your sarcasm is quite lame. Too simplistic...
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Post by rusebg on Oct 4, 2010 18:09:01 GMT -5
Look, Anitta, with all honesty, I put you in the category of flies, mosquitoes and gypsies. In other words, creatures that nobody needs. So spare me your insights on my sarcasm.
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Oct 5, 2010 12:05:50 GMT -5
Are you a woman or a man? The way you have these little bitchy comments, you sound like a woman.....l'm in every one of your posts, do you want to see my .....? I am a man. You dont like my comments? Well I am sorry for that, and I can not help you on this. ;D
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Post by Anittas on Oct 5, 2010 12:07:48 GMT -5
Look, Anitta, with all honesty, I put you in the category of flies, mosquitoes and gypsies. In other words, creatures that nobody needs. So spare me your insights on my sarcasm. I didn't know you argued with flies and mosquitoes. I'll check the thread to see if you give me a reply on the issues raised.
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Post by Rhezus on Oct 6, 2010 3:44:55 GMT -5
Have a look, the worst scenario year 2055. It's a joke, but still interesting..
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 26, 2010 22:26:40 GMT -5
"I am a man. You dont like my comments? Well I am sorry for that, and I can not help you on this. ;D" Vizier, listen mate, if you read the topic again, l was directing that to Khan 'Ruse'-che!.
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Post by wbb on Oct 27, 2010 0:41:12 GMT -5
Im shocked, i though Hungarians are the largest ethnic minorities in Slovakia, there are 500,000 Hungarians in Slovakia, maybe more i dont know but's then again that's also depend on Roma living in Slovakia. Cause most Roma like the one living in Transylvania and the Carpathians of Ukraine speaks Hungarian, there's a percentage of them consider themselves Hungarian, so if that true then the Roma population would be less than 500,000 in Slovakia while the Hungarian population would be counted more than just 500,000. The joint Hungarian-Roma population is counted as over 1,000,000 in Slovakia. I doubt those 750,000 Roma consider themselves Bulgarians, they consider themselves "Turks" since majority of them are muslims in Bulgaria and speaks Turkish.
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 27, 2010 4:46:49 GMT -5
I doubt those 750,000 Roma consider themselves Bulgarians, they consider themselves "Turks" since majority of them are muslims in Bulgaria and speaks Turkish. turkogypsy is the worst combination that nature can handle...
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Post by Rhezus on Nov 13, 2010 17:50:31 GMT -5
I doubt those 750,000 Roma consider themselves Bulgarians, they consider themselves "Turks" since majority of them are muslims in Bulgaria and speaks Turkish. Nope, the majority of them cosider themselves as gypsy/romas and most of them speak Romany (the gypsy lang.)
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Post by tsompanos on Nov 13, 2010 19:55:53 GMT -5
But Rhezus , you say your bulgarian?
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Post by Rhezus on Nov 24, 2010 12:43:14 GMT -5
^^ Of course Tsompanus, I am not any Greek. Besides, Bulgarians are Thracians, Greeks are Helens or hellass.
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Post by terroreign on Dec 1, 2010 17:41:53 GMT -5
I just find it hard to believe. I mean, 500,000 out of 5 million? That number is very very significant.They are a major group in Slovakia.If that figure is true,they may take over Slovakia one day.Slovakia may be the Romas. How is intermarriage there? Is it rare? How is race relations? I had the chance to travel all over Slovakia and think that most of those 500k. gypsies are concentrated in the very area I described in the previous post, haven't seen any gypsies in the capital or other regions. Well, my impression was that the segregation between the gypsy majority and the Slovak minority was complete - it was some kind of an appartaid - no social interactions at all. Having spoken only to Slovaks, I cannot provide the Romas' point of view. The Slovaks were horrified - I think they both hated and were afraid of the gypsies. It was something like in Bulgaria, but on a lot larger scale. I don't blame them - I know what is to have 5-10% gypsies - they are very hard to control, and their gypsies are perhaps more than 50% - all unemployed, relying on social aid, stealing everything they can get and having an average of more than 10 children per family. If it was a glimpse into the future, it is not very promising. This is completely the opposite of the Roma situation in Serbia & Montenegro. Over there they're not completely assimilated, but they definitely are integrated in daily life, and more or less treated like human beings - some parts of Serbia however Roma did indeed completely assimilate, and are regarded positively, especially in the Serbian Trubaci culture. Hell, my father's family in Vojvodina lived in a mixed Montenegrin/Hungarian/Roma neighborhood. In Montenegro I find, they're just laughed at and innocently messed with, not respected as equals at all. Many in Herceg Novi and Budva get their whole families to guard Porta-potties and Bathrooms near the beach trying to charge people for use.
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