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Post by Nikola on Sept 23, 2010 0:55:15 GMT -5
Slovenia and Macedonia to Exchange University StudentsWednesday, 22 September 2010 Slovenia will offer cost-free studies to students from Macedonia, starting from the next academic year 2011/2012, Slovenian Ambassador to Macedonia Alan Bergant told media. We are at a phase of signing a deal between the two ministries. We pledge for mobility of students as well as professors, Bergant said, adding that he hopes that these type of circumstances will enable better and deeper cooperation between the faculties in the two countries. I hope we will have more Macedonian students, who will take studies in Slovenia as well as Slovenian students, who will come and study in Macedonia, Ambassador Bergant said. macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/16521/1/
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Post by Nikola on Sept 23, 2010 0:56:14 GMT -5
Terrific idea. Macedonians can learn a lot from Slovenians so this is a great way to start teaching people from a young age.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Sept 30, 2010 0:44:43 GMT -5
A restoration of Yugoslavia lol. The Fyromanians need a better education system and the FYEOM govenment needs to provide these educations in FYROM inorder to keep students in their country to study. This is very shameful from FYROM's stand not being able to provide education but now they have to relay on another country to do it for FYROM instead. It is a terrible idea by having the Fyromanian government relay on Slovenia in the first place for education.!
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Post by toskaliku on Sept 30, 2010 14:43:53 GMT -5
I imagine a lot of those Macedonians applying for the "study abroad" will dissappear in Slovenia or try to switch to the Slovenian school completely
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Oct 1, 2010 2:08:31 GMT -5
I imagine a lot of those Macedonians applying for the "study abroad" will dissappear in Slovenia or try to switch to the Slovenian school completely Exactly, it is a discrase and the FYROM government wont budge on educational reforms, fund the education system and improve the educational sector of the country, FYROM isn't the only country with this problem, the same problem is in Montenegro, Serbia, BIH, Albania and partially in Croatia. Everybody will emmigrate and what is left of the nation will eventually die out and be absorbed by a bigger nation.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 1, 2010 3:28:44 GMT -5
Guys, Slovenia is in the same shit. Some clean roads and painted buildings does not compensate for actual economy.
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Post by ioan on Oct 1, 2010 3:31:27 GMT -5
Guys, Slovenia is in the same s**t. Some clean roads and painted buildings does not compensate for actual economy. obviously all europe think that Slovenia economy is best compared to all eastern europe, even cyprus and malta, since its only Slovenia thats allowed to enter the Eurozone. Back in 2007.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 1, 2010 3:51:23 GMT -5
The Slovanians will adopted the same position level of the Fyro People !! ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 1, 2010 4:06:28 GMT -5
The Slovanians will adopted the same position level of the Fyro People !! ;D Karta, gnwrizeis ti kanoun sta sxolia tous oi "kakoi" Skopianoi? Einai poly mprosta, kai emeis paramythiazomaste me mlks..
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 1, 2010 4:14:35 GMT -5
The Slovanians will adopted the same position level of the Fyro People !! ;D Karta, gnwrizeis ti kanoun sta sxolia tous oi "kakoi" Skopianoi? Einai poly mprosta, kai emeis paramythiazomaste me mlks.. Pyrros : If the Greeks were Brainwashed like the Fyro People it whould be more Difficult for some People in the Balkan to spread such Propaganda against the Greek Nation !!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 1, 2010 4:28:31 GMT -5
Have you seen any FYROMian talk against Greece in the same manner Greeks talk against them? I have driven through FYRMakedonia many times, and almost always the locals were very friendly. Life from TV and the Internet has nothing to do with real life.
Karta, we are trapped in our nationalism as well.
Alright Alexander the Great was Greek, hands down. BUT! The whole Greek penisula on the other hand, for over 500 years was ruled by slavs, and i doubt if any greek was active at the time. How to you expect that even in remote places in south peloponese even today we see tones of slav toponyms?
So, while we claim to "helenize" them, they could easily come back with arguments about how they used to rule all Greece.
The moral of the story. Lets start to cooperate FRIENDLY and leave the nationalistic deceptions apart.
THIS IS THE GREEK WAY. THE WAY OF REAL POWER. Isolation and stupidity is not smth the Ancient Greeks (our Gods) had any good reputation at. Instead ancient Greeks were about, research, knowledge, science and engineering, and the more we bark about Makedonia the more the distant ourselves from Ancient Greeks.
Do you want us to take minitary action against the bad Skopians...
ALRIGHT!! I WILL JOIN!!
BUT there is great chance that our butt will be heavily kicked.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 1, 2010 4:34:41 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 1, 2010 5:41:49 GMT -5
^^^ In this case, there will be a war. The new order has carefully planned for everything. Their schools are owned by the same powers who own ours.
These maps are unacceptable. I fully align with you on this one.
Their whole stance reminds me of the bulgarians here, same expansionist methods.
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Post by ulf on Oct 1, 2010 6:19:31 GMT -5
I always argue to those Macedonians I know that claim Alexander the Great [Dictator] was not Greek. Luckily those that believe they are descendants of Alexander the Great [Dictator] Macedonians are just few
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 1, 2010 6:31:48 GMT -5
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Post by ulf on Oct 1, 2010 7:04:00 GMT -5
Russian yeah, but its a dialect which is similar to Ukranian
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Oct 1, 2010 20:57:33 GMT -5
Guys, Slovenia is in the same s**t. Some clean roads and painted buildings does not compensate for actual economy. obviously all europe think that Slovenia economy is best compared to all eastern europe, even cyprus and malta, since its only Slovenia thats allowed to enter the Eurozone. Back in 2007. Entering the EU and the Eurozone hasn't solved any problems in which the Balkan states have been facing for the last 5 decades, even now Bulgaria and Romania's average salary rate is below Serbia, Croatia and even Montenegro, these two EU member states are infact poorer then Serbia and Croatia which they are non EU states. Joining the EU will only make living much more expensive and even a bigger burden on the average population. Not to mention Serbia and Croatia still allow cheap labour and they have no desire in making their economy competitive in the world market. Serbia has alot of industries and it is the most industrialised state in the Former Yugoslavia, Albania, Bulgaria and Romania yet we only use 33% of it, reason why Croatia is doing alittle better then Serbia is because of their tourism in which their economy is heavily reliant of, without their coastline Croatia would be as poor as Albania is today in which Albania is still the poorest country in Europe next to FYROM, Moldova and BIH.
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Post by ioan on Oct 1, 2010 23:54:45 GMT -5
Entering the EU and the Eurozone hasn't solved any problems in which the Balkan states have been facing for the last 5 decades, obviously u dont make a distinction between the eurozone and EU. they are totally different. eurozone=the state is allowed to get using the EURO to be allowed in eurozone, your economy has to function properly, there are big standards a state can meet. Slovenia was the first state before Cyprus and Malta and that must tell u something. Eleven countries (i.e., Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Sweden, and the United Kingdom) are EU members but do not use the euro. Before joining the eurozone, a state must spend two years in the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM II). Since 1 January 2009, the National Central Banks (NCBs) of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Denmark have been participating in ERM II. The remaining currencies are expected to follow as soon as they meet the criteria. Few countries have declared a target date, and only Estonia has gained approval to join on 1 January 2011. i m not convinced serbia and montenegro are in better position than bg and romania. all the stats i ve seen they were lagging behind. croatia has always been quite different. it should ve been in eu already. what? But Albania has a coastline and still its not Croatia. I dont think Croatia is what it is due to its coastline only. I ll say that their culture and their history (austrohungarian empire) play a very big part. I can compare it to Slovenia only.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 2, 2010 0:16:05 GMT -5
Stanko Ioan works for his government, he is not *normal* you know. Either that, or he is born an idiot.
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Post by ioan on Oct 2, 2010 0:31:50 GMT -5
for u its just the option that u are idiot, because i dont believe the government will hire u.
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