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Post by kartadolofonos on Oct 21, 2010 0:55:44 GMT -5
åëëáò
Άιντε Δέλβινο μωρέ Δέλβινο, ωρε Δέλβινο και Τσαμουριά.
Άιντε Δελβινο και Τσαμουριά, ωρε δεν τα δίνουν τα παιδιά.
Άιντε δεν τα δι- μωρέ δεν τα δι-, ωρε δεν τα δίνουν τα παιδιά.
Άιντε δεν τα δίνουν τα παιδιά, ωρε μες στη μαύρη ξενιτιά (ή στο σουλτάνο βασιλιά).
Άιντε Δέλβινο μωρέ Δέλβινο, ωρε Δέλβινο και Τεπελένι.
Άιντε Δελβινο και Τεπελένι, ωρε πάλι Ελληνικό θα γένει.
Αργυρόκαστρο κι Αυλώνα Της Ελλάδος αρραβώνα
Άιντε Δέλβινο μωρέ Δέλβινο, ωρε Δέλβινο και Άγιοι Σαράντα.
Άιντε Δελβινο και Άγιοι Σαράντα, ωρε θα σας πάρουμε για πάντα.
Άιντε μωρέ Κορυτσᾶ και Άγιοι Σαράντα ωρε Κορυτσᾶ και Άγιοι Σαράντα. θα ενοθούμε με την Ελλαδα για πάντα.
Άιντε Δελβινο και Τσαμουριά, μωρέ Δελβινο και Τσαμουριά της Ελλαδος τα παιδια μες στην Αλβανική σκλαβιά
Άιντε μωρέ Αργυρόκαστρο,Κορυτσᾶ, Χειμαρρα,Αυλώνα,Τεπελένι,και Άγιοι Σαράντα,ωρε θα σας πάρουμε για πάντα.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 14:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by atdhetari on Oct 22, 2010 14:43:44 GMT -5
another enlighting post rex, the truth shall set them free
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Post by bato2 on Oct 22, 2010 14:55:43 GMT -5
The Greek population had received a strong Slavonic infusion many centuries before. More recently, Albanian settlers had expelled the inhabitants from certain districts both in the mainland and in the Morea. Attica, Boeotia, Corinth, and Argolis were at the outbreak of the war of independence peopled in the main by a race of Albanian descent, who still used, along with some Greek, the Albanian language. The sense of a separate nationality was, however, weak among these settlers, who, unlike some small Albanian communities in the west of the Morea, were Christians, not Mohammedans. Neighbourhood, commerce, identity of religion and similarity of local institutions were turning these Albanians into Greeks; and no community of pure Hellenic descent played a greater part in the national war, or exhibited more of the maritime energy and daring which we associate peculiarly with the Hellenic name, than the islanders of Hydra and Spetza, who had crossed from the Albanian parts of the Morea and taken possession of these desert rocks not a hundred years before. The same phenomenon of an assimilation of Greeks and Albanians was seen in southern Epirus, the border-ground between the two races. The Suliotes, Albanian mountaineers, whose military exploits form one of the most extraordinary chapters in history, showed signs of Greek influences before the Greek war of independence began, and in this war they made no distinction between the Greek cause and their own. Even the rule of the ferocious Ali Pasha at Janina had been favourable to the extension of Greek civilisation in Epirus. Under this Mohammedan tyrant Janina contained more schools than Athens. The Greek population of the district increased; and in the sense of a common religious antagonism to the Mohammedan, the Greek and the Albanian Christians in Epirus forgot their difference of race. History Of Europe www.globusz.com/ebooks/Europe/00000026.htm
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Post by bato2 on Oct 22, 2010 14:59:35 GMT -5
Albanian heroes of the 1821 revolution:
Gjeorgjio Kundurioti (first president of Greece) Kiço Xhavella Andoni Kryezi Teodor (Bythgura) Kollokotroni Marko Boçari Laskarina Bubulina Kostandin Kanari Gjeorgjio (Llalla) Karaiskaqi Odise Andruço Andrea Miauli Teodor Griva
I must tell you that whenever I find myself in conversation with Greeks who feel inordinately proud of their ‘unadulterated Greekness,’ I love making them mad by reminding them that several of the revered heroes of the 1821 Greek Revolution ― such as Markos Botsaris, Kitsos Tzavellas and Andreas Miaoulis ― were Albanian-speaking warriors. And, furthermore, that Theodoros Kolokotronis himself wished for a bilingual country, with both Greek and Albanian inhabitants. From the time the modern Greek state was founded in 1830 to today, the conflict between the concepts of an open-minded, extrovert, cosmopolitan Greece and a small yet honorable, racially and religiously ‘clean and proper’ Greece has never ceased. It goes without saying that I side with the former and not with the latter, and that any kind of multiculturalism fascinates me.
Christos Homenidis
The number of Albanians living in today´s Greek territory is much larger than currently estimated because during the period from 1856 to 1858 two thirds of the population (66%) living in Greece was Albanian. The Albanians even had their own representatives in the Greek parliament. It was during this period that the Greek Parliament openly debated the issue of making the Albanian language a second official language of the Greek state. But that did not happen.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 15:08:22 GMT -5
another thing that I cant get an answer from the Greeks here is ..... If there is a National Arvaniti Day of sorts in Greece if NOT .....then that is a real darn shame and an insult slap in the face as well as spitting on their faces of all the Arvanitis around the world
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 15:21:03 GMT -5
Epirus belongs to the Epirotes......ok then in that case ..... page of o book published in Venice in 1636. Found in the National Library of Athens, Greece
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 15:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 15:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 15:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 15:53:00 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 15:59:16 GMT -5
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Post by bato2 on Oct 22, 2010 15:59:21 GMT -5
Good job rexo!!
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Post by atdhetari on Oct 22, 2010 16:31:30 GMT -5
smashing job
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 22, 2010 16:35:08 GMT -5
ok then... Can you please demand to your government to call the south Albania part, which is historically Epiros, officialy Epir? Do you have any problem with that? Aren't you the real Epirotes? so whats the problem?
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 16:38:22 GMT -5
get Patrinos ...he speaks latin ;D 1722 Di Franciscus Blanchus-1635 Supplementum Chronicarum” Jacopo Filippo Foresti,( Bergomensis 1503 "Epidaur EPYRI i hoc è Albaniae civitas" Dizionario Volgare et latino 1568 Posthuma memoria Josephi Esterh℗azii de Galantha: Fata, & res privatas ... - Pagina 162 -1754 Novum lexicon geographicum - Pagina 159 Filippo Ferrari - 1697
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 16:40:29 GMT -5
Epirus belongs to the Epirotes
Karta ...you need more? ...I Got !
Epirus Belonged to the Epirotes now the faker masqueraders
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2010 16:46:43 GMT -5
Patrinos .....please use your Latin ...what does this say ?
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Post by atdhetari on Oct 22, 2010 16:54:02 GMT -5
ok then... Can you please demand to your government to call the south Albania part, which is historically Epiros, officialy Epir? Do you have any problem with that? Aren't you the real Epirotes? so whats the problem? the history of a country evolves, that's the beauty of continuity, we do not feel the urge to revert back to ancient names to satisfy some nationalistc agenda, its nonsensical,we are not the same people as the ones that lived in those lands, empires, tribes, foreign races, neighbouring cultures have all left a trace, why deny that? theres no point in doing delusional things like calling youself the direct heir of the ancient hellen tribes
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 22, 2010 17:02:23 GMT -5
Patrinos .....please use your Latin ...what does this say ? don't you have any illyrian original source on that matter... i'm pretty interested on what they said... PS. please make the translation (illyrian>english) because google.translate is so lame and haven't included illyrian yet...neither medieval albanian ;D
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