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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 4, 2010 23:36:27 GMT -5
Valley Albanians attend "greater Albania" gathering
Oliver Ivanovic stated on Monday that the dangerous concept of a "greater Albania" has never ceased to exist.
(KosovoCompromise Staff) Wednesday, November 03, 2010
But the state secretary with the Serbian Ministry for Kosovo said it can "never materialize because there is no consensus of political powers in the EU and in the world".
"Whenever there is an incident, or when some big political tensions or frictions are happening, the concept of 'greater Albania' arises and garners great publicity," Ivanovic told.
His comments came in the wake of a trip a number of representatives of ethnic Albanians from Presevo and Bujanovac in southern Serbia to Tirana on October 30. There, they backed the List for Natural Albania regarding the creation of a single state of all Albanians in the Balkans.
Ivanovic said that "this can only mean a greater pressure on the Serbian government with the aim of attaining some privileged or better positions".
The conclusion of the meeting in Tirana is that the List for Natural Albania will submit a request to the International Court of Justice in The Hague to review the London Conference of 1913, as well as the Congress of Berlin, so as to, as they put it, rectify mistakes towards Albanians that occurred after the Ottoman Turk "withdrawal" from this region.
The meeting was attended by representatives of the municipality of Presevo Ragmi Mustafa and Orhan Redzepi, and leader of the Movement for Democratic Progress Jonuz Musliju. Redzepi was quoted as telling the gathering in Tirana that the "Presevo Valley is in the true sense of the world th emost occupied of all Albanian areas in the Balkans".
And while the Serbian prosecution in Belgrade is announcing an investigation into the participation of the Presevo and Bujanovac ethnic Albanian officials, media are reporting that Self-Determination Movement leader Albin Kurti and Presevo municipal President Ragmi Mustafa are the only politicians from the region who supported the list.
Leader of the Party for Democratic Action and Serbian MP Assembly Riza Halimi, and member of the same party and Bujanovac mayor Saip Kamberi did not attend the meeting.
The notion of a so-called "natural", or greater Albania envisages a single state of all ethnic Albanians in the Balkans, that would include parts of the territories of Macedonia, Greece, Montenegro and Serbia.
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Post by Novus Dis on Nov 5, 2010 3:26:24 GMT -5
There are no moderate Shqiptars.
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Post by atdhetari on Nov 5, 2010 16:40:42 GMT -5
serbia is a sinking ship and novus u're a kunt
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 5, 2010 20:06:39 GMT -5
^ Serbia isn't a sinking ship, the reality is, the Pristina authority is a sinking ship.
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Post by Novus Dis on Nov 5, 2010 20:12:26 GMT -5
No, I agree with the idiot. Serbians have no morale so if there was a war they'd lose.
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Post by atdhetari on Nov 6, 2010 5:53:52 GMT -5
i'm glad you have accepted the fact that you're a c.unt
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Post by Novus Dis on Nov 6, 2010 6:07:00 GMT -5
I'm not that. Never wrote I was. You must have trouble reading. I'm not surprised, considering your breeding.
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Post by atdhetari on Nov 6, 2010 6:46:15 GMT -5
No, I agree with the idiot. twat!
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Post by Novus Dis on Nov 6, 2010 7:15:22 GMT -5
I was agreeing with Serbia being a sinking ship, not agreeing that I'm a part of the female anatomy.
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Post by ulf on Nov 6, 2010 8:41:48 GMT -5
What can you expect Novus? Average IQ of Serbian population(not Yugoslav) pre-1990 was second highest in Europe just behind Western Germany(average IQ ~105). In year 2000, the IQ of Serbian population was ~90. Needless to say why it is sinking ship. Great deal of smart population left Serbia and villagers from nearby countries(populated with Serbs)immigrated to Serbia during 1990's and 2000's, and there you go the answer. Beside you can see the how those immigrant are numerous if you just look birthplace of main politicians in charge(Tadic, Djindjic...)
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Post by atdhetari on Nov 6, 2010 12:14:01 GMT -5
the serb genome structure contains a 'self destruct' gene
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Post by odel on Nov 6, 2010 12:58:35 GMT -5
What can you expect Novus? Average IQ of Serbian population(not Yugoslav) pre-1990 was second highest in Europe just behind Western Germany(average IQ ~105). In year 2000, the IQ of Serbian population was ~90. Needless to say why it is sinking ship. Great deal of smart population left Serbia and villagers from nearby countries(populated with Serbs)immigrated to Serbia during 1990's and 2000's, and there you go the answer. Beside you can see the how those immigrant are numerous if you just look birthplace of main politicians in charge(Tadic, Djindjic...) Could you prove your claim about the average IQ of Serbs pre-1990 being second only to West-Germany? I've seen Serbs come out with ridiculous claims about their own people, this often with nothing to back this up. Also are you sure the average IQ of Serbia is as low as 90? I wouldn't say you guys are the smartest bunch but I would have guessed something average something around 100.
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Post by ulf on Nov 6, 2010 16:20:07 GMT -5
What can you expect Novus? Average IQ of Serbian population(not Yugoslav) pre-1990 was second highest in Europe just behind Western Germany(average IQ ~105). In year 2000, the IQ of Serbian population was ~90. Needless to say why it is sinking ship. Great deal of smart population left Serbia and villagers from nearby countries(populated with Serbs)immigrated to Serbia during 1990's and 2000's, and there you go the answer. Beside you can see the how those immigrant are numerous if you just look birthplace of main politicians in charge(Tadic, Djindjic...) Could you prove your claim about the average IQ of Serbs pre-1990 being second only to West-Germany? I've seen Serbs come out with ridiculous claims about their own people, this often with nothing to back this up. Also are you sure the average IQ of Serbia is as low as 90? I wouldn't say you guys are the smartest bunch but I would have guessed something average something around 100. I had some research from pre-1990's IQ researches in Yugoslavia, but I looks like I deleted it. For further info: hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm(research from 2002): Slovenia 95 Romania 94 Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Macedonia 93 Greece 92 Albania 90 That's concerning Balkans
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Post by odel on Nov 6, 2010 16:47:26 GMT -5
Could you prove your claim about the average IQ of Serbs pre-1990 being second only to West-Germany? I've seen Serbs come out with ridiculous claims about their own people, this often with nothing to back this up. Also are you sure the average IQ of Serbia is as low as 90? I wouldn't say you guys are the smartest bunch but I would have guessed something average something around 100. I had some research from pre-1990's IQ researches in Yugoslavia, but I looks like I deleted it. For further info: hypnosis.home.netcom.com/iq_vs_religiosity.htm(research from 2002): Slovenia 95 Romania 94 Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Macedonia 93 Greece 92 Albania 90 That's concerning Balkans Iq and the wealth of nations is a very controversial book, it's not done in a very scientific way. They didn't have any data for the majority of the countries so they took the averages of those countries neighbouring countries and took out an average IQ based on that. Also they took Kyrgystan and based Kyrgystans average IQ based on Iran's and Turkey's IQ's which aren't even neighbouring countries. In South Africa I think they tested High school/College students. And in some other places they had tested 13 year olds. The studies are quite biased I think and had a clear goal. Also in the link it says that Croatia has an Iq of 90 and not 93. Having an average IQ of 90 would place it together with Albania.
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Post by atdhetari on Nov 6, 2010 17:38:20 GMT -5
its not very indicative of the intelligence level anyway, its very disproportionate and prone to errors, i's expect greeks to be way way down and slavs to be high up
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Post by ulf on Nov 6, 2010 17:58:26 GMT -5
Sorry for the mistake. Croatia have 90 indeed.
"Iq and the wealth of nations is a very controversial book, it's not done in a very scientific way"
So what? Did you just read whole book in...hmm let's see 27 minutes, so you can claim this?
For me the book makes sense. It has many truths. However people are very closed minded to some truths, especially the Balkans
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Nov 6, 2010 18:26:58 GMT -5
The graph shown above relates the arithmetic mean IQ measured in various country's populations, to the fraction of each country's population that believes religion is very important.
Holy Fvck, odel, atdhetari, how are you 2 even taking this garbage seriously
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Post by odel on Nov 6, 2010 18:35:55 GMT -5
The graph shown above relates the arithmetic mean IQ measured in various country's populations, to the fraction of each country's population that believes religion is very important. Holy Fvck, odel, atdhetari, how are you 2 even taking this garbage seriously I wasn't replying him on the grap shown above which is quite silly indeed. However, I did reply to him claiming that Serbs were second to western-Germans only in IQ which he managed to delete ;D But under the graph there was the Iq and the wealth of nations book which is something that is very unreliable. And I'm not really taking him serious, I doubt atdhetari is either. Who would take such claims seriously? Serbs were second only to Western-Germans in IQ in Europe but then all the intellectuals dissapeared and I deleted my sources! LOL
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Post by Novus Dis on Nov 6, 2010 19:45:44 GMT -5
Intelligence isn't so much an issue as is cowardice or laziness. Frankly, Serbs (everywhere but especially in Serbia) are waiting for somebody to lead them and to help them. There is no grassroots resistance.
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Post by atdhetari on Nov 6, 2010 19:56:34 GMT -5
Holy Fvck, odel, atdhetari, how are you 2 even taking this garbage seriously i'm not, its silly
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