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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 7, 2010 3:37:14 GMT -5
(I'm using foreign numbers so lets assume that Turks aren't lying when they recorded their dead.)
There were 1,902,956 Turks and 1,366,104 Serbs in Bosnia before the war started. Turks suffered 64,341 deaths and Serbs suffered 24,726 deaths during the war. That means Turks lost 3.38% and Serbs lost 1.80% of their prewar populations. That was in a war the last over three years. And Bosnia was the bloodiest war during the breakup of Yugoslavia.
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Post by atdhetari on Dec 7, 2010 4:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by wbb on Dec 7, 2010 4:59:26 GMT -5
Will stop calling those Boslims = Turks? They are not Turks and they dont speak Turkish or Turkic.
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Post by terroreign on Dec 7, 2010 6:38:41 GMT -5
It was a war in every sense of the word, just balkan style, which often meant plundering and rape...it's been like that since before illyrians
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 7, 2010 7:34:53 GMT -5
A genocide in which more Turk soldiers were killed than Turk civilians? Yeah, right. It didn't even reach 5% on any side. The Turk civilian death rate wasn't even 50% more than the military death rate. This wasn't a genocide. And if it was, Turks committed it against themselves as well because there was infighting between Izetbegovic and Abdic. Also, Turks used other Turks as human shields. Not to mention that Turks targeted Serb civilians so if Serbs committed a genocide then Turks committed genocide as well.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 7, 2010 7:38:33 GMT -5
Abdic, what a great Man. A great Yugoslav going against all odds of his time. I wouldn't care about who is Serb and who is not, if every yugoslav was like Fikret Abdic.
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Post by atdhetari on Dec 7, 2010 10:45:39 GMT -5
It was a war in every sense of the word, just balkan style, which often meant plundering and rape...it's been like that since before illyrians you know nothing of illyrians, you are a mash up of the ethnic waste, montenegro is not even relevant
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 7, 2010 10:47:10 GMT -5
^ neither do you. Because you came later than 950 AD.
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Post by atdhetari on Dec 7, 2010 10:53:06 GMT -5
A genocide in which more Turk soldiers were killed than Turk civilians? Yeah, right. It didn't even reach 5% on any side. The Turk civilian death rate wasn't even 50% more than the military death rate. This wasn't a genocide. And if it was, Turks committed it against themselves as well because there was infighting between Izetbegovic and Abdic. Also, Turks used other Turks as human shields. Not to mention that Turks targeted Serb civilians so if Serbs committed a genocide then Turks committed genocide as well. yea those turks huh
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Post by atdhetari on Dec 7, 2010 10:55:08 GMT -5
^ neither do you. Because you came later than 950 AD. well obviously and you generosity hasn't gone unnoticed, thanks for lowering it down to 950
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Post by srbobran on Dec 7, 2010 12:35:49 GMT -5
Oh please. First of all Serbs and "well planned" don't belong in the same sentence. How was it in any way systematic? Second of all, look at how many of those 65% were military deaths (about 50%) The Bosnian War was exactly that, a war. There was ethnic cleansing no doubt but calling it a planned genocide is an insult to real victims of genocide.
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Post by drinus123 on Dec 9, 2010 21:00:31 GMT -5
serbs destroyed yugoslavia. they commited the majority of the crimes because their people were easily manipulated and highly uneducated. im glad NATO stepped in and put an end to all the crap. serbs are also the most yugonostalgic something to do with inner guilt.
croatian tito kept things in balance. serbian milosevic ruined that balance.
what a stark difference...
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Dec 9, 2010 21:29:35 GMT -5
serbs destroyed yugoslavia. they commited the majority of the crimes because their people were easily manipulated and highly uneducated. im glad NATO stepped in and put an end to all the crap. serbs are also the most yugonostalgic something to do with inner guilt. croatian tito kept things in balance. serbian milosevic ruined that balance. what a stark difference... Take your propaganda elsewhere and shove it up your arse.
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Post by terroreign on Dec 9, 2010 22:19:07 GMT -5
65% muslim Serbs killed, 25% orthodox Serbs, and 10% catholic Serbs (bogus stats btw), all in all? Just alot of Serbs killed by Serbs. Wars of the 90's were one of the biggest wastes of our long history, and just proved what kind of mentality we (unfortunately) have.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 10, 2010 2:56:30 GMT -5
65% muslim Serbs killed, 25% orthodox Serbs, and 10% catholic Serbs (bogus stats btw), all in all? Just alot of Serbs killed by Serbs. Wars of the 90's were one of the biggest wastes of our long history, and just proved what kind of mentality we (unfortunately) have. +10000000000000000000000000000000000000
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 10, 2010 6:53:08 GMT -5
Abdic tried to protect the Boslims. Izetbekovic used them as human shields. Even the infamous shelling in Sarajevo was done by Muslim forces. So not only we had Serbs killing Serbs, but most precisely Muslim Serbs killing a lot of Muslim Serbs.
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 10, 2010 7:19:04 GMT -5
Not to mention that the (bad) Turks constantly listed soldier casualties as civilian casualties. I'm sure that's why the Shqiptar is speaking up for them, seeing as how Shqiptars did the exact same thing.
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Post by atdhetari on Dec 10, 2010 9:09:50 GMT -5
i wouldn't want to stand beside serbs when god strikes down upon them for the inhumane things they did during the wars, they will have to create a special chamber in the depth of hell for these soulless creatures
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 10, 2010 9:42:04 GMT -5
^^ Boslims/Orthodox/Catholic Serbs shared exactly the same mentality. (Despite some slight details which show that Muslims/Catholics were more determined and cruel). If now, somehow, you mean that being orthodox (or non-muslim-catholic) is enough to tag you as a monster, then my friend, you have real issues and you should see a doctor.
The war of Bosnia as we know it from western media is just a big set up production which bears no similarities with the reality.
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Post by ulf on Dec 10, 2010 10:11:15 GMT -5
serbs destroyed yugoslavia. they commited the majority of the crimes because their people were easily manipulated and highly uneducated. Muahahahahaha, another legendary statement by an Albanian Serbs were the only one who fought for Yugoslavia during WW2, not Croats or Slovenians. Tito had some good and some bad moves. Good moves included free education, health system, high living standard... Bad moves were retiring important members such as Popovic, Rankovic and other REAL heroes from their positions in year 1966. Also giving significant political might to the one he fought against(Albanian Nazi's, who over night transformed into Communist and Yugoslavists )
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