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Post by Patrinos on Jan 19, 2011 11:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Jan 19, 2011 11:30:21 GMT -5
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 19, 2011 13:10:33 GMT -5
how cute, look who's backing Rama ... Bastard deri ne fund ... Vangel Dule and Paskal Milo seem to be good guys...
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Post by atdhetari on Jan 19, 2011 16:22:27 GMT -5
why do u know so much about albania? you seem up to date with everything? you're jumping ship now that your imf protectorate of a country is sinking...your motherland is calling you
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Post by terroreign on Jan 19, 2011 16:26:39 GMT -5
^we're balkanians...we're here because we like and are interested in anything Balkan...why are you such a twit
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Post by atdhetari on Jan 19, 2011 16:56:01 GMT -5
i know nothing about of current affairs in serbia or montenegro, to me its revolting to take time out of my life to look up developments in these insignificant fringe pisspots...honestly, nothing!
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Post by terroreign on Jan 19, 2011 17:17:54 GMT -5
i know nothing about of current affairs in serbia or montenegro, to me its revolting to take time out of my life to look up developments in these insignificant fringe pisspots...honestly, nothing! This is where you should of finished the sentence
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Post by atdhetari on Jan 19, 2011 17:38:59 GMT -5
a rat should be telling no one where to stop sentences, do not overstep yours bounds
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 19, 2011 18:33:47 GMT -5
why do u know so much about albania? you seem up to date with everything? you're jumping ship now that your imf protectorate of a country is sinking...your motherland is calling you well actually the most visited blog in Greece, tromaktiko, post news from all the world and it happens to refer to Albania once in a while...
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Post by rex362 on Jan 19, 2011 18:37:53 GMT -5
oh bcs ..it looked like a vorio ipiroti blog nce nce nce ...shame on you
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Post by toskaliku on Jan 20, 2011 15:00:58 GMT -5
Edi Rama is a free spirited modern man, Berisha is a symbol of the old communist world. Not saying Rama is much better, but I would say he certainly is more European than Berisha
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Post by toskaliku on Jan 20, 2011 15:21:38 GMT -5
Edi is not Kristaq. Edi was a student during the protests that overthrew communism. He was there with the rest of the youth, Berisha was protecting the communists. This is all well documented. Unlike Berisha and all the men of the communist era, Edi's hand are clean. Why doesn't Berisha open the books already? Everyone is waiting. Because he knows that the communist era files incriminate him abd everyone around them.
A new generation is here and Albania will be freed once it has eliminated all vestiges of Berisha's people.
What exactly is "degenerated"? What constitutes something degenerated? I would say that one thing about the modern world is that it has learned to abolish notions of "degenerations" (something the Nazis were obssesed with, as well as something that constantly plagued the pre-modern world). We all see the our newer modern self as degenerated. What exactly is wrong with the picture above? Its two naked people... so what?
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Post by toskaliku on Jan 20, 2011 16:30:07 GMT -5
He may be the son of a bllok, but Berisha IS the bllok. And I dont see anything degenerated in that photo. There are just two naked people there, something you see in a thousand beaches across Europe. I see there a man who is comfortable and with somebody he seems to be romantically involved. What is degenerated there? ... and Berisha and his crew isnt? Im not saying one side is clean, Im just saying this is nothing more than a case of poisoning the well: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_wellIf Edi should condemn what his father did, then Berisha should step down by virtue of what he himself did. He accused people during the communist regime, he reported on others, he resulted in dozens of destroyed lives. He was one of the cancers of the regime, a power hungry man with little difference to the types like Milosevic or Djukanovic.
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Post by atdhetari on Jan 20, 2011 16:49:52 GMT -5
i find it hard to talk to people like shejtani about politics, honestly, he embodies everything wrong about politics, its is impossible to get through to people like him, it says a lot about a person when they stubbornly defend someone like berisha,
i would never defend someone like edi rama because i do not rate him as a politician, as a human being i do not want to judge him or anyone else, people change and everyone deserves second changes in life, but not in politics. having said that, edi rama has far few blemishes in his political career,
lets break it down like this, Rama is rightfully elected by the people of tirana 3 times, he has been elected as a mayor during the socialists and democrat's tenure, that speaks volumes to his credo as a mayor,
now Berisha, he is responsible for rigging elections in '96 and the subsequent downfall into chaos the following year, he came into power again in '05 by a questionable electoral code, he came into power despite receiving less votes...but that was not his fault. in '09 he rigged the elections yet again to retain power and set up the most corrupt govt in albanian history perhaps.
edi rama has not been tested yet, therefore he can not be judged, berisha has failed many times over, simple as.
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Post by homelandsecurity on Jan 20, 2011 16:49:57 GMT -5
WE NEED NEW BLOOD ,NOT ONES THAT BOW TO GREECE
EDI FLET GER-TE-QIR SHUM MIR
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Post by bordura on Jan 20, 2011 20:51:43 GMT -5
Shejtani when you strongly present your point of view, i might like it or not, but respect your right to do so because is your right. When you present facts I'm not so sure any more about your rights. Let me explain; as long as facts you present are correct i have nothing to add. again even if this facts might not be of my liking as long as they are true id support your right to state them. But it seems your "facts" are just echo of political rhetoric and not real facts. L Let me give you a hint of what I mean; Do you know what Blloku means? Do you know what Kristaq Rama was known during communist Albania? Do you know how old Rama was during the anticommunist movements? Do you know what Rama was and did during anticommunist movement of 90's? Do you know why Rama left after a heated debate with Berisha the very first meeting of the Democratic Party? Do you know why he left Albania? Have you seen Tirana before and after Rama become a Mayor after 10 years of Democratic Mayors? Do you know that he didnt even put his name on the list for Parliamentary elections? I come to the conclusion you left Albania to young and all you know about Albanian politics and figures is kinda devoid of facts or reality just purely shaped from the rhetoric of the loudest speakers. Irelay would like to see how you answer the above questions and how those answers apply to Berisha and Rama. As for the naked picture I would easier accept a person for being naked in a remote beach of the planet with his girlfriend compared to a person that has sold oil to Serbia, seat a Serb in Albania's Security Council meeting, sells to Greeks our Orthodox Church, by accepting Janullatos as head of the church with his Presidential decree, Trades our sea borders for political support of the Greeks or for money who knows, Brings the country any time that's in power to bring of civil unrest, speaks in Parliament with a language that no DEGENERATE would use in front of woman and kids... man just thing for a second don't just ride a train by default because just happen to be in. Step back watch the facts and think or at list try
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Jan 20, 2011 21:54:46 GMT -5
Shejtani when you strongly present your point of view, i might like it or not, but respect your right to do so because is your right. When you present facts I'm not so sure any more about your rights. Let me explain; as long as facts you present are correct i have nothing to add. again even if this facts might not be of my liking as long as they are true id support your right to state them. But it seems your "facts" are just echo of political rhetoric and not real facts. L Let me give you a hint of what I mean; Do you know what Blloku means? Do you know what Kristaq Rama was known during communist Albania? Do you know how old Rama was during the anticommunist movements? Do you know what Rama was and did during anticommunist movement of 90's? Do you know why Rama left after a heated debate with Berisha the very first meeting of the Democratic Party? Do you know why he left Albania? Have you seen Tirana before and after Rama become a Mayor after 10 years of Democratic Mayors? Do you know that he didnt even put his name on the list for Parliamentary elections? I come to the conclusion you left Albania to young and all you know about Albanian politics and figures is kinda devoid of facts or reality just purely shaped from the rhetoric of the loudest speakers. Irelay would like to see how you answer the above questions and how those answers apply to Berisha and Rama. As for the naked picture I would easier accept a person for being naked in a remote beach of the planet with his girlfriend compared to a person that has sold oil to Serbia, seat a Serb in Albania's Security Council meeting, sells to Greeks our Orthodox Church, by accepting Janullatos as head of the church with his Presidential decree, Trades our sea borders for political support of the Greeks or for money who knows, Brings the country any time that's in power to bring of civil unrest, speaks in Parliament with a language that no DEGENERATE would use in front of woman and kids... man just thing for a second don't just ride a train by default because just happen to be in. Step back watch the facts and think or at list try He doesn't need to know all that. All that matters to those like him is that Berisha is a northerner ans Rama is from the south.
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